YoloinOhio Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 SB Nation: Is something wrong with the Patriots? These three fatal flaws could put an end to New Englands repeat title hopes. https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/9/26/16361378/patriots-struggles-2017-nfl-season-tom-brady-offensive-line-running-game Lets get this straight right away. The Patriots are still a dangerous Super Bowl contender. Any team led by Tom Brady, even at age 40, would be. But the 2017 New England team looks more vulnerable than the odds-on preseason betting favorite ever should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) Interesting take on Gillislee and the Pats* running game as well as Gilmore and his impact so far. Edited September 26, 2017 by Haslett_Stomp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 beatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Run game Offensive line Secondary Discuss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Run game Offensive line Secondary Discuss! i wonder how long it will take to blame Brady once he starts playing poorly. not that he is now, but how quickly will the reality be admitted that he is not what he was in his prime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 Knock on Gillislee is he hasn't been as good without Shady. Duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Knock on Gillislee is he hasn't been as good without Shady. Duh! I think every logical and well-minded Bills fan knew this would happen. Even in his 3 touchdown game, Gillislee was only producing 3 YPC. Hasn't shown any of that big play ability like he did in Buffalo with his limited carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Pats are scoring points like it's going out of style. They have no flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Flawed and New England sounds wonderful together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 They will certainly get better, their O line and their D. But it won't be enuf. I look forward to playing them. Bills/Pats could actually be a very interesting matchup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I think every logical and well-minded Bills fan knew this would happen. Even in his 3 touchdown game, Gillislee was only producing 3 YPC. Hasn't shown any of that big play ability like he did in Buffalo with his limited carries. Surprised with how NE is using him. MG is good for like 5-7 carries per game. More than that, then he seems to lose his effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I've been hoping for a decade and year after year TB is still there torturing us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Every year for the last 5 years this article is written, and every year they win 12+ games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 Surprised with how NE is using him. MG is good for like 5-7 carries per game. More than that, then he seems to lose his effectiveness.i had that thought watching them vs KC. His gaudy YPC in Bflo was because most of his TDs were outside the red zone. He's not a short yardage back. They have so many RBs they need to just sort it out on who does what best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 They will get better on D as the season goes on. We've seen these stories before. They look beatable early on and get things ready before the playoffs. They are still a top 3 team in the conference. Just want to see the Bills play them tough in both games and split with them. Not much that I enjoy more than seeing Brady cry to the refs after getting hit play after play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I've been hoping for a decade and year after year TB is still there torturing us I remember all the " expert" claiming it was the end after the KC game in 2014...that finally, the code was cracked on how to beat Brady and Belichick...since then, 3 AFC Championship game appearance and 2 SB win....they way Brady is playing so far, they will be tough come November and December.... I've been fooled by their slow start too many times....I'd be willing to beat $ that they'll be in their 7th straight AFCC game this year..... Every year for the last 5 years this article is written, and every year they win 12+ games. Beat me to it....why do we put ourselves through this year after year..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 The early returns are that both Gillisle and Gillmore were major reaches by Bellichick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Run game Offensive line Secondary Discuss! So...championship? I can't believe it until I see them flop. Then I still may not believe it. I hate the pats so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 The early returns are that both Gillisle and Gillmore were major reaches by Bellichick.i saw a pats fan say Gilmore was Ras-I Dowling with dreds. So...championship? I can't believe it until I see them flop. Then I still may not believe it. I hate the pats so muchThis x1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 They can be beaten, by teams that can score 30+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 The Fatal Flaw is about 6 feet tall, 200 pounds, long thick hair, and walks around with a puss on his face. He is often seen chasing WR's towards the endzone at half speed, other times he likes to be used as a hurdle. He is having the time of his life playing on national TV. Where's Waldo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 The early returns are that both Gillisle and Gillmore were major reaches by Bellichick. Can you imagine that luxury though? You already have a stud qb and offensive weapons so you can go out and grab the top corner and probably overpay for a running back without fear. If it doesn't work out you'll only win 11 games on your way to the afc championship game at worst. That's how the other half live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I still would never bet against a Tom Brady and Belichick team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 beatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfansinceday1 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 The NE defense is very vulnerable and I think our Front 7 will put pressure on Brady, which he hates. We have a real chance of winning one or both games this year but there is a lot of football to be played until we finally meet up. I will not be surprised if Gronk is not on the field by that point in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Nonetheless, they are probably still the best team in the AFC, especially the AFC East. But that #1 position (in the league) is there to be challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Despite all the yammerings from the peanut gallery it appears that the Bills made yet another great off season move by not over paying for Gilmore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 For a change it looks like the Bills front office made good decisions on what players can walk elsewhere for big contracts. Gilmore has been prone to being an up and down player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly McButterpants Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Wow, if SBNation has removed Brady's and Belichick's balls from their mouths, what's next? Peter King? ESPN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Four. They have four fatal flaws. I moved to Massachusetts this spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 They can be beaten, by teams that can score 30+. Agreed, I think Brady misses Edleman a ton but come on, they are averaging like 35 points a game. Nothing wrong with the offense. It is the defense that is concerning & I just don't think this time it is early season kinks. They are just not very good. Their front 7 stink & their much hyped secondary is not playing very well. They will win 12 games because teams in this league just can't score no matter how many holes the defense has. This story has been written before & it always has the same ending, with the Patriots coming out on top, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 the only one I think works is Father Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 There are a lot of games left to play out. It's hard to get excited right now. The Patriots know how to make adjustments and hide their weak points. And even if they drop a few more games than normal, it's hard to picture them winning less than 10 and losing the AFC East. Once a team makes the playoffs, anything can happen. Besides the Chiefs, nobody looks dominant in the AFC. With that said, it's fun to see Mike Gillislee and Stephon Gilmore as two of the primary scapegoats so far. The Bills took A LOT of grief from the national media and their own fans for letting those guys walk to New England. Chris Collinsworth couldn't wait to mock us in the first game of the season. It's nice to see it turning around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 There are a lot of games left to play out. It's hard to get excited right now. The Patriots know how to make adjustments and hide their weak points. And even if they drop a few more games than normal, it's hard to picture them winning less than 10 and losing the AFC East. Once a team makes the playoffs, anything can happen. Besides the Chiefs, nobody looks dominant in the AFC. With that said, it's fun to see Mike Gillislee and Stephon Gilmore as two of the primary scapegoats so far. The Bills took A LOT of grief from the national media and their own fans for letting those guys walk to New England. Chris Collinsworth couldn't wait to mock us in the first game of the season. It's nice to see it turning around. The Patriots are usually have slow starts to the season. Right now, their offense is winning the games for them. It's possible their defense will improve throughout the season (I hope not). According to that article, it seems Gillislee and Gilmore are the new whipping boys. I wished the Bills would have kept Gillislee, but it didn't work out. With Gilmore and with any good player in the secondary, they are usually very hard to resign after their rookie deals as their second contract is usually astronomical. We've seen the Bills lose good secondary players over the years to free agency: Winfield, Clements, Byrd, and Greer, so it's no surprise the Bills did not resign Gilmore. Another thing I noticed with Gilmore over the years with the Bills is that he seems to have struggles early on in the season, but gets progressively better as the season goes along. I'm sure the same thing is happening with him in NE, which is what people who never followed him closely are finding out about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 It will be interesting to see how the Panthers fare in NE this weekend because I think they are similar to the Bills. Can a team with a solid defense, but with offensive limitations, beat the Pats? Texans came very close on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 It will be interesting to see how the Panthers fare in NE this weekend because I think they are similar to the Bills. Can a team with a solid defense, but with offensive limitations, beat the Pats? Texans came very close on Sunday. Cam needs to find his Superman uniform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyville Guy Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Every year for the last 5 years this article is written, and every year they win 12+ games. Every. Year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 They will just always win... Nothing matters. They might slip and go 11-5 if they aren't careful though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I think every logical and well-minded Bills fan knew this would happen. Even in his 3 touchdown game, Gillislee was only producing 3 YPC. Hasn't shown any of that big play ability like he did in Buffalo with his limited carries. Paging BADOL and ScottLaw. Paging BADOL and ScottLaw. Cleanup on Aisle 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Should the game winning TD catch by Cooks against HOU been overturned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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