billsgpr88 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I think everyone was expecting big things out of the kid last year before the acl tear, but I haven't heard anything about him. I did hear McDermott justify his place behind Preston Brown, but I haven't got to actually see him play. Any observations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Like an athleticly challenged but good instincts MLB playing in a scheme that doesnt fit him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 He looks good standing on the sidelines. If he makes the team that's the only way you will see him this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 To be honest? Blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lafromboise Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 i thought his coverge was good and he was aware. that third and long the eagles converted reggie was right there to make the interception. he just needs to learn to turn his head around and i think he will. made a nice stop on fourth and iinches. i dont think his tackling will be an issue this year. well built to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 i thought his coverge was good and he was aware. that third and long the eagles converted reggie was right there to make the interception. he just needs to learn to turn his head around and i think he will. made a nice stop on fourth and iinches. i dont think his tackling will be an issue this year. well built to. He didnt have anyway to make a play because his head was down in full sprint just to get his depth. That is an athletic issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Like a below average 3-4 MLB. I don't see him here for very long. I can't see a team trading more than a 5th rounder for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Unimpressive really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I think he makes the team but its a red shirt year for him.... Â Just dont like the idea of giving away high pick players given his injury situation...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likei've Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 He looked lights out in training camp in Rex's scheme. Â He's just not a fit for this D. It's no ones fault really, we just can't use him for what we want to do. Â I really dislike the idea of trading him to the Chiefs though. Â He'd fit in that D and you just don't contribute in any way to making a team whose first round pick you own better. Â Unless they offered sick compensation, which they won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lafromboise Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) He didnt have anyway to make a play because his head was down in full sprint just to get his depth. That is an athletic issue if he turned his head at the last second he would of made a play. im trying to find the play right now to see if im wrong. his coverage near the line was good also. he kept the play in front of him. i honestly dont see a problem. Edited August 18, 2017 by Lafromboise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I think he makes the team but its a red shirt year for him.... Â Just dont like the idea of giving away high pick players given his injury situation...... Â Â I can see this unless someone offers a decent pick for him...which is unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) He didnt have anyway to make a play because his head was down in full sprint just to get his depth. That is an athletic issue They also were mostly not running or throwing towards him when he was in the game, as far as I could see, and mostly he appeared to be dropping into coverage (and for what it's worth, they weren't picking on him). There was one 20 yard (or so) pass thrown over his coverage, and he had the nifty stop behind the line on a run on 4th & inches. I'm curious to hear what Cover1 and the people who analyze the film say. Â Interesting thing to keep in mind: the last drive (where the Eagles scored), he was not on the field and it was one of the few changes from the earlier drives. Edited August 18, 2017 by thurst44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I think he looked alright. He certainly plays the run well. Pass coverage is obviously somewhat suspect but there aren't many MLBs in the league that can consistently cover tight ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 As someone with no agenda or opinion... I can objectively says he's has a few nice plays in isolation with the 2s and 3s, but he's not looking like an impact player. Might even be a bubble guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Decent depth. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I think the team might be better off "Redshirting" him this season unless they get a good offer for him (I think you have to consider trading him for a 4th round pick and you would have to do it for a 3rd rounder which I don't think you would get offered.) Â But he is about a little over a year removed from a major ACL surgery. Let him learn the defensive system for a year and have him ride the bench. Right now he just seems to lack the speed to have enough range in the system. But maybe he just needs some more time to recover from his injury? Not everyone has the same time table to return at full strength. Â He is good enough to be a backup esp on early downs and running situations. Keep him as decent depth and see if he can return to form next year. I think it is possible he might just have lost a little due to injury or isn't a fit for the system. That's why I think if a 4th round pick or higher is offered you take it. But why sell low if you don't need to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Keep him. By the time he is entering his prime the Bills will be back to a 3-4 D. Plan for the future yes Beanes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 He looks alright, nothing spectacular. Â I agree with "redshirting" him this year. Let him grow, and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 If he doesn't fit the scheme, the Bills need to trade him now. Maybe they can get a player from another team that is underachieving in the wrong system. Maybe they can get lucky and land another mid-round pick. Â I'm coming to grips that 2017 is a total lost cause. At one point, I was holding out slim hope for a wild card. But after trading away Sammy Watkins and watching Tyrod Taylor struggle to adapt in the new scheme, I realize this team is (or will soon be) in full rebuild mode. Â Every snap/roster spot used on someone like Reggie Ragland is a waste, because it could be used on a player who fits better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 He looks good standing on the sidelines. If he makes the team that's the only way you will see him this year   I doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 If we can't keep preston it makes sense to have a guy with a year in the system. he's affordable and already under contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) Decent depth. That's it. As long as he can play on the Special Team units. Edited August 18, 2017 by Dopey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8billsfan Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 He's good on run stuffing plays. People fail to notice that... Dropping in coverage isn't his thing unless its on small slant or curl. I think Reggie is really good... but he has had trouble to this new scheme... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb_bound Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 In typical Bills fashion we will likely cut him and hope we can sign him to the practice squad. Ragland will likely being playing for someone else this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 If the Bills want to do the right thing and let Ragland become the fine ILB that he is capable of being, then they need to trade him to a team that plays a 3-4 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonkillebrew Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Role player on short-line packages perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Looks like another draft miss and yet another example of why never to trade up in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 We all know Reggie Ragland is not a great fit for the 4-3. He is not great in passing downs and cannot really chase down people all over the field. That is why he is practicing with the thrid unit. I still think it is best to trade him to a defense that uses a 3-4 and get an offensive lineman or WR in return. That said, if such a trade does not happen, I have been wondering how best can the defense use his special talents this year. Â Based on the preseason games (this year and last), he might be the surest tackler we have. Additionally, he does appear to have a nose for the ball in run defense. Does anyone remember a 3rd and short in one of the recent preseason games, where he brought down the RB short of the first down with a solo tackle? I feel he will be great in Red Zone packages. With a shortened field, his chasing deficiencies will be masked. I also feel he will be useful on first and second downs against power RBs, who run north south. Some such guys who we will face this season are - Marshawn Lynch, Mark Ingram, Adrian Peterson (though he can dance as well), Cam Newton (yeah the guy can run as well), Andre Williams & Spencer Ware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Slot receiver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 He would look great in a Raiders uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 On the bench handing out gatorade to the starters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) He doesn't have any special talents. Â He's a two down run stuffer who has limited range and struggles against the run. Â We need to trade him ASAP. Edited August 21, 2017 by jrober38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Love the kid but he's tailer made for the Ravens defense now that Rex is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 In typical Bills fashion we will likely cut him and hope we can sign him to the practice squad. This scenario will not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Teams don't trade for third string LBs. they pick them up after they get cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Teams don't trade for third string LBs. they pick them up after they get cut. I'm curious, and I'm too lazy to look it up, but where was Jerry Hughes on the Colts' depth chart when Buffalo traded for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I'd trade him for a 5th and a conditional in 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I'm curious, and I'm too lazy to look it up, but where was Jerry Hughes on the Colts' depth chart when Buffalo traded for him? I believe he was second string. If someone wants to trade for Ragland great. If I was a GM though I'd just wait till he gets cut. Â I hope the light comes on and he stays. Seems like a good young man who got a tough break with the ACL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I believe he was second string. If someone wants to trade for Ragland great. If I was a GM though I'd just wait till he gets cut. I hope the light comes on and he stays. Seems like a good young man who got a tough break with the ACL Yes coming back from the ACL, but also learning a new scheme that he MAY not be a great fit for. Ragland's not getting released this season, man. There is too much value there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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