Toyo321 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) I believe Bass is going to have a really bad year this year. He is not a given anymore, at all, I don't trust him either when or if we need a crucial kick. That missed kick against KC really rubbed me the wrong way. Bass is at best a 50/50 kicker at 50 yards. Butker was house money at 50 yards and more and he out kicked Bass in our own stadium. I just don't think Bass can be counted on this year in a close game to tie it or win it outright. He has developed a weird motion on all his kicks where it travels 20 to 30 yards and had an immediate fade to the right. I don't know if he can fix this and it is somehow related to how he is striking the ball. Just not optimistic about him at all this year. Edited April 8 by Toyo321 2 1 1 1 7 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) We need to bring in competition. Edited April 7 by SoonerBillsFan 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 I think Bass' issues may stem from Martin as a holder. I think it's one of the reason they brought Haack back. 1 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 we need a voodoo shaman to exorcise the karma of having built the Ralph on an indigenous burial ground 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 He was doomed to suck after being called "Bass-o-matic." Just an absolutely pitiful nickname. Deplorable. 3 2 1 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 minute ago, GASabresIUFan said: I think Bass' issues may stem from Martin as a holder. I think it's one of the reason they brought Haack back. Was there ever a hold that looked bad? Nope. People are turning holding into some mythical artform. Any idiot can do it. We'll anyone but Romo. Bass was awful last year but he already signed an extension. He's not going anywhere. Only hope is he gets better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: He was doomed to suck after being called "Bass-o-matic." Just an absolutely pitiful nickname. Deplorable. Basstastic? All about that Bass? Mr BoomBasstic? All about that Bass? Bass Pro Kicker JBL Bass Bass In My Pocket Bump, Bass, Hit? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 9 minutes ago, boyst said: Basstastic? All about that Bass? Mr BoomBasstic? All about that Bass? Bass Pro Kicker JBL Bass Bass In My Pocket Bump, Bass, Hit? Bass-Man 1 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Bass O Matic was a great nickname- and one of the greatest skits in SNL history. I do, however share some of the OPs concern with Bass. Perhaps a holder change will help, but they need to have another plan in case he’s “ lost it “. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Bass O Matic was a great nickname- and one of the greatest skits in SNL history. I do, however share some of the OPs concern with Bass. Perhaps a holder change will help, but they need to have another plan in case he’s “ lost it “. There is zero chance a holder change will help lol The holds were fine ... It's not that hard of a skill to learn Pat McAfee never held in college and got it down in the pros It's just repetitions Edited April 7 by Buffalo716 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJGauna Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 His contract is pretty brutal. We don't have much of a choice other than to hope he gets right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 42 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Was there ever a hold that looked bad? Nope. People are turning holding into some mythical artform. Any idiot can do it. We'll anyone but Romo. Bass was awful last year but he already signed an extension. He's not going anywhere. Only hope is he gets better. You sure about that? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) 6 minutes ago, T&C said: You sure about that? Basically any idiot who played high level football.. if you can get to the NFL.. you can physically hold It's not that hard of a skill... Punters hold for kickers because specialties spend the most time together during practice... They have hours to get the repetition down Quarterbacks used to hold but due to the collective bargaining agreement... Practicing is very restricted... And quarterbacks need the majority of time practicing the playbook So they went to punters... And as long as they can catch the snap.. getting it down is not an issue It is basically a repetition thing.. not that hard of a skill for any football player The only people with the time for the repetition is punters tho Edited April 7 by Buffalo716 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 49 minutes ago, boyst said: Mr BoomBasstic? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Bass's problems have nothing to do with holders like Bojo, Martin or Haack. This is a Bass problem. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Another Bass thread? In April? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 52 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said: Another Bass thread? In April? Fishing season is year round. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Another terrible contract 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 I believe Bass will bounce back this year. I suspect he had some sort of lingering injury that was affecting him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 3 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Was there ever a hold that looked bad? Nope. People are turning holding into some mythical artform. Any idiot can do it. We'll anyone but Romo. Bass was awful last year but he already signed an extension. He's not going anywhere. Only hope is he gets better. Romo and Bojorquez..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 In Bass-o-Matic I trust. I still think he wasn't 100% last season and he will bounce back this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Claude Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 The Bass-o-matic thing was never correct. Bass was never an elite kicker. He was an above average NFL kicker who was good enough for the Bills until last season. Bills opponent kickers have had a higher percentage every year since he has been with the Bills so it is not just weather conditions. Hopefully, it was a nagging injury and he will return to his above average form which is all the Bills need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 4 hours ago, Toyo321 said: I believe Bass is going to have a really bad year this year. He is not a lock at all when a crucial kick is needed and I don't trust him either. That missed kick against KC really rubbed me the wrong way. Bass is at best a 50/50 kicker at 50 yards. Butker was house money at 50 yards and more and he out kicked Bass in our own stadium. I just don't think Bass can be counted on this year when it will need to matter. He has developed a weird motion on all his kicks where it travels 20 to 30 yards and had an immediate fade to the right. I don't know if he can fix this and it is somehow related to how he is striking the ball. Just not optimistic about him at all this year. Saying his success "is somehow related to how he is striking the ball" is like saying a QB's accuracy is somehow related to how he is throwing the ball. It's a lot words to say nothing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Not worried about Bass at all. The Punter position is more concerning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 54 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Romo and Bojorquez..... Hopkins made 33 of 36 kicks and 8 of 8 with Bojo holding for him in 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Romo and Bojorquez..... Holding skill is Completely overrated I went back and looked at every single bojorquez hold over years and he did not have over eight bad holds Including extra points and place kicks... His new kicker has called him the best holder he ever had It's a very overrated skill... There has never been a player who has been cut because of his holding abilities... Even Romo is only famous for one botched snap Because any athlete worth his salt will get it with repetition Corey B calling his own fake field goal.. and shanking 17 yard punts was way more of the reason he wasn't re signed... Same as LA... He can bomb it 60 yards Then Shank an 18 yarder Inconsistency is why he doesn't find long-term homes... Not holding ability Edited April 7 by Buffalo716 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 52 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Holding skill is Completely overrated I went back and looked at every single bojorquez hold over years and he did not have over eight bad holds Including extra points and place kicks... His new kicker has called him the best holder he ever had It's a very overrated skill... There has never been a player who has been cut because of his holding abilities... Even Romo is only famous for one botched snap Because any athlete worth his salt will get it with repetition Corey B calling his own fake field goal.. and shanking 17 yard punts was way more of the reason he wasn't re signed... Same as LA... He can bomb it 60 yards Then Shank an 18 yarder Inconsistency is why he doesn't find long-term homes... Not holding ability Well all I know is there were at LEAST 3 his last year here and at least 3 when he was holding for Crosby in Green Bay. I agree it is an overrated skill and should be easy to learn. But Bojo sure managed to make it look hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Just now, GunnerBill said: Well all I know is there were at LEAST 3 his last year here and at least 3 when he was holding for Crosby in Green Bay. I agree it is an overrated skill and should be easy to learn. But Bojo sure managed to make it look hard. He called his own fake field goal What do you expect from that guy! He's insane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Hopkins made 33 of 36 kicks and 8 of 8 with Bojo holding for him in 2023. Maybe he has finally mastered in year 8 or whatever.... but he has been significantly worse than the median at what is a pretty straightforward skill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 7 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said: I think Bass' issues may stem from Martin as a holder. I think it's one of the reason they brought Haack back. Yips have nothing to do with Bass imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 You don’t just go from being really good to quite poor at such a young age. There must have been a problem of some sorts that is fixable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 8 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said: I think Bass' issues may stem from Martin as a holder. I think it's one of the reason they brought Haack back. Martin has been considered a good holder so..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) I haven’t caught a big bass in a while must be the damn rod holder 🤣 Edited April 7 by Xwnyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Shank o matic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 7 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: I believe Bass will bounce back this year. I suspect he had some sort of lingering injury that was affecting him. Was he on the injury report at all last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Wish I felt more confident about Bass. I am worried about his mental game, but not much we can do but hope I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Bass has what should be a very fixable problem. It’s not inconsistency or lack of power. He has developed a very predictable SLICE in his kicks. I cannot imagine that the kicking coach can’t fix that. If he can’t, they need a new coach AND a new kicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 As it stands now, he’s a disaster, but for some reason Beane gave him a large contract too early in his career IMO. He’ll get his chance at redemption this season. I guess his suckitude helped some cats though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 9 hours ago, boyst said: Basstastic? All about that Bass? Mr BoomBasstic? All about that Bass? Bass Pro Kicker JBL Bass Bass In My Pocket Bump, Bass, Hit? You forgot “Bass-tard!” (when he misses) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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