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It just goes to show how badly he looked at the Combine that he's offering to essentially re-do it personally for us. Probably also speaks to how we view him at the moment that we're saying "yeah, gonna need you to do more than just a standard visit. We need to see the Combine was a mirage to consider you".

 

I would be surprised if he improves his times though, even if he was sick. He'll be in better health, but he also put on added mass. Which in and of itself is a good thing bc weighing in less than expected was one of the many disappointments from his weekend in Indy. But it could also negate the time he lost from being a little under the weather. Though if he's able to get the same 40 with added weight, that's a good thing.

 

More than the 40, he needs more than anything to improve his 10 yard split. Ranking dead last amongst all WR's at the Combine when his big trait is speed was staggering. Again, I worry that may just be what it is. He does hit high speeds as he gets down the field. But coming off the line, you wouldn't think he's as fast as he's supposed to be. It's strangely as if he has long speed, but not burst at the line.

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Franklin was the WR I liked at 28 until I saw the first ten split at the combine. That number would have to change significantly for him to be a first round pick in my opinion. 
 

that first ten yard speed really opens the whole route tree up and can eat up cushion from DB.

 

be interesting to see what comes from the workout, or if we ever find out.

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1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

It just goes to show how badly he looked at the Combine that he's offering to essentially re-do it personally for us. Probably also speaks to how we view him at the moment that we're saying "yeah, gonna need you to do more than just a standard visit. We need to see the Combine was a mirage to consider you".

 

I would be surprised if he improves his times though, even if he was sick. He'll be in better health, but he also put on added mass. Which in and of itself is a good thing bc weighing in less than expected was one of the many disappointments from his weekend in Indy. But it could also negate the time he lost from being a little under the weather. Though if he's able to get the same 40 with added weight, that's a good thing.

 

More than the 40, he needs more than anything to improve his 10 yard split. Ranking dead last amongst all WR's at the Combine when his big trait is speed was staggering. Again, I worry that may just be what it is. He does hit high speeds as he gets down the field. But coming off the line, you wouldn't think he's as fast as he's supposed to be. It's strangely as if he has long speed, but not burst at the line.

If you've got the flu, it's going to significantly impact your performance.  I wouldn't be surprised to see him make a huge improvement during his workouts when healthy.  

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2 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

If you've got the flu, it's going to significantly impact your performance.  I wouldn't be surprised to see him make a huge improvement during his workouts when healthy.  


If he was that sick he shouldn’t have worked out. 
 

My gut tells me it’s his agent telling everyone that because he didn’t have a great combine . 

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6 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

It just goes to show how badly he looked at the Combine that he's offering to essentially re-do it personally for us. Probably also speaks to how we view him at the moment that we're saying "yeah, gonna need you to do more than just a standard visit. We need to see the Combine was a mirage to consider you".

 

I would be surprised if he improves his times though, even if he was sick. He'll be in better health, but he also put on added mass. Which in and of itself is a good thing bc weighing in less than expected was one of the many disappointments from his weekend in Indy. But it could also negate the time he lost from being a little under the weather. Though if he's able to get the same 40 with added weight, that's a good thing.

 

More than the 40, he needs more than anything to improve his 10 yard split. Ranking dead last amongst all WR's at the Combine when his big trait is speed was staggering. Again, I worry that may just be what it is. He does hit high speeds as he gets down the field. But coming off the line, you wouldn't think he's as fast as he's supposed to be. It's strangely as if he has long speed, but not burst at the line.

Ok hold on, the only thing he did since the combine is re hydrate.  10lbs since then was lost water weight due to being sick, and that is water his body was used to.

 

I wouldn't be shocked if he does improve on just about everything vs. His combine performance. 

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6 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:


Wonder if he would be someone they would take at 28 or maybe trade back and try and land if they come away impressed after his workout.  

I really like Franklin. If we take him at 28 I’ll be happy. If he falls to the second and we grab him there I’ll be ecstatic

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8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Who remembers Beane hoping Gabe Davis didn’t run well at the combine? Hmm.

 

I don’t think the Bills care about the combine workouts at all. Probably more interested in the meetings.


Agreed. Maybe it makes them recheck the tape if the times are out of sync with what they had seen on tape. But Rousseau was criticized because his agility and explosive scores were very poor at his pro day. https://twitter.com/MathBomb/status/1387977896178892801/photo/1
 

Kincaid couldn’t work out predraft because of an injury. We drafted both in the first round still. 

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18 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Yeah - so he could draft him in Round 4. Franklin's not falling that far. 

No, Davis was always a mid round prospect. Davis was going somewhere in the 3rd-4th round.

 

Franklin has been in discussions for the late first and early 2nd. If Franklin had a Worthy like combine he’s probably going before 28. Because he tested poorly he’s definitely there at 28 and maybe even falls to them in the 2nd.

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2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Why?

 

He drops the ball way too much, and that was on display at the combine.  I also think he is way too skinny.  To me, he is just a deep threat and I dont want that.  I want a WR who can run the whole route tree.  That was the issue with Davis.

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7 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:


Wonder if he would be someone they would take at 28 or maybe trade back and try and land if they come away impressed after his workout.  

I hate reporting nowadays.  Ok so he thought Franklin had a good combine.  Cool, that’s his opinion.  Just say it then.  Franklin was “sick at the combine” seems like hyperbole and a scream for attention.  If you’re going to be a moron at least explain what the guy did that was so “sick”.

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12 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 

He drops the ball way too much, and that was on display at the combine.  I also think he is way too skinny.  To me, he is just a deep threat and I dont want that.  I want a WR who can run the whole route tree.  That was the issue with Davis.

I agree with the drops but to me he’s a very good route runner. WR size doesn’t matter too much anymore to me. CBs can’t touch these guys anymore. I saw a guy that played fast and had suddenness in his routes. I also saw an ability after the catch.

 

Drops are concerning. 

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3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I agree with the drops but to me he’s a very good route runner. WR size doesn’t matter too much anymore to me. CBs can’t touch these guys anymore. I saw a guy that played fast and had suddenness in his routes. I also saw an ability after the catch.

 

Drops are concerning. 

Yeah, I don't know about that. Every time we play the Chiefs we have to listen to Romo talking about their "sticky coverage" a.k.a. Defensive Holding and PI. 

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4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I agree with the drops but to me he’s a very good route runner. WR size doesn’t matter too much anymore to me. CBs can’t touch these guys anymore. I saw a guy that played fast and had suddenness in his routes. I also saw an ability after the catch.

 

Drops are concerning. 

Well, he can definitely take over for Davis . . . 

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32 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I agree with the drops but to me he’s a very good route runner. WR size doesn’t matter too much anymore to me. CBs can’t touch these guys anymore. I saw a guy that played fast and had suddenness in his routes. I also saw an ability after the catch.

 

Drops are concerning. 

 

Almost all he does is run vertical.  In terms of what it takes in the NFL, you cant call him a good route runner.  He just doesn't run enough of the route tree.

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let him work out, leak it was unimpressive. that he was slow. he trashed his hotel and had dead hookers in his hotel with drugs, abused puppies, and pictures of girls feet.

 

then draft him in the 5th.

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3 minutes ago, boyst said:

let him work out, leak it was unimpressive. that he was slow. he trashed his hotel and had dead hookers in his hotel with drugs, abused puppies, and pictures of girls feet.

 

then draft him in the 5th.


Wouldn’t last that long then.  He’d be what the Chiefs look for, be taken before we get the chance.

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2 hours ago, Kmart128 said:

What I found interesting is Joe Brady was trying to recruit him to LSU when he was there. He obviously likes the kid

He was arguably the #1 WR in his class coming out of high school. Would be weird if LSU wasn't recruiting him. He visited many schools before committing to Oregon but LSU was not one of them. Granted I think this was all around the time of the pandemic so it was probably a weirder recruiting process than usual, but I'm not sure how much of a relationship there likely was between he and Brady. Brady wasn't the primary recruiter for LSU on him either.

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2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Who remembers Beane hoping Gabe Davis didn’t run well at the combine? Hmm.

 

I don’t think the Bills care about the combine workouts at all. Probably more interested in the meetings.

TAPE DON'T LIE!! 

1 hour ago, Back2Buff said:

 

He drops the ball way too much, and that was on display at the combine.  I also think he is way too skinny.  To me, he is just a deep threat and I dont want that.  I want a WR who can run the whole route tree.  That was the issue with Davis.

His performance during the gauntlet was less to be desired. 

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1 hour ago, JaCrispy said:

My “avoid at all costs” is Keon Coleman…

Anquan Boldin, George Pickens dropped in the draft because of the "can't separate" crap. Coleman makes plays!! He "Moss" DBs. He returns punts. Played at Mich. St, cold climate. Think Drake London who went top 10 in the draft last year. Or Courtland Sutton. I'm good with Keon. 

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2 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

To me, he is just a deep threat and I dont want that.

 

I don't agree that he's only a deep threat. That's my concern with Brian Thomas. Franklin I think can run a full route tree. He has quick footwork and overall good technical route running. His size and hands do concern me a bit though, I'll admit.

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2 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

 

He drops the ball way too much, and that was on display at the combine.  I also think he is way too skinny.  To me, he is just a deep threat and I dont want that.  I want a WR who can run the whole route tree.  That was the issue with Davis.

 

But Troy runs the entire route tree and if what I've read is true, it was mostly a bad habit of him looking up field before he secured the ball.  That's an easy fix.  

 

Troy came in 8lbs heavier at his pro day, so perhaps he really was sick at the combine.  

 

He was my original pick at WR and I would not, at all, be disappointed with this selection.

 

He has the potential to be the best of this class. 

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