LABILLBACKER Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) Well let's see? The league minimum for a 7 yr vet is 1.65....still would've preferred a cheaper drafted qb. Edited March 7 by LABILLBACKER 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Not surprised it’s so surreal that’s he’s only like 28 years old and it feels like he’s been in the league for a hundred years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He’s better than Kyle Allen. If Josh misses a month, Mitch could win 2-3 games. Good enough for me 🤷🏻♂️ Hope not. They'll be tempted to cut Josh for the cap room. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 25 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: I'll take a Keenum any day over a Trubisky. Why not try to get better at the position? Maybe you hit on a Brock Purdy late in the draft or some other mobile QB. Tyrod, Minshew and Wentz are out there. All are much better options than Trubisky - unless Beane feels the price would be too high. Wentz?? Lost me on that one. And even the others are debatable to some level. Maybe Minshew I'd agree with, but how much did he want? Many of these guys are only interested in going to openings where they have a chance to be the starter. Giants was a great place for TT as their starting QB often got hurt and was debatable if he even should be a stater. So good chance at some point over 17 games, Jones would get benched at some point if not hurt. In Buffalo you know Allen is the starter as long as healthy, end of debate. On top of that as big as he is, he's not likely to get hurt as much as say a guy like Lamar or Tua 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 15 minutes ago, stinky finger said: Draft a guy and hope he - what? Not sure what isn't clear. Draft a guy and hope he turns into either a high quality back up or a tradeable asset. Trubisky is not good imo and is a pointless addition to the roster. I don't understand the point of him. He can't keep the team afloat if needed to do so. Thats the only reason to have a vet backup qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, section122 said: Not sure what isn't clear. Draft a guy and hope he turns into either a high quality back up or a tradeable asset. Trubisky is not good imo and is a pointless addition to the roster. I don't understand the point of him. He can't keep the team afloat if needed to do so. Thats the only reason to have a vet backup qb. Come on. If Josh goes down, all bets are off. Of course MT isn't the answer. What round are you willing to draft a QB? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Trubisky Kind'a makes sense. I do think he was a very good fit in the Daboll offense. Not sure how he'll do with Brady and the current offense. Hopefully we never find out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 4 minutes ago, stinky finger said: Come on. If Josh goes down, all bets are off. Of course MT isn't the answer. What round are you willing to draft a QB? MT not being the answer is exactly why i dislike this move so much. He offers nothing. At least a young qb has the chance to catch lightning in a bottle. I'm in the camp of drafting a qb every couple of years late though like the packers used to do. As for what round, it would depend on who is available and when. Probably one of the many 6ths they have though lol. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Better than Kyle Allen.. it's left handed compliment but not an incorrect one 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: At vet minimum. And he does the laundry after the game. Hands out the orange slices and PB&Js at halftime. Does some carpool duties. Bah, still an overspend. Add emotional support animal too and it's a great deal! 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Bills upgraded at backup QB it all adds up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 hours ago, The Jokeman said: He's an above average backup. Is he? He was benched for a 3rd stringer last season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Nice. People often have unrealistic expectations of what a backup QB should be. In this day and age, where teams usually only have two QBs on the 53-man roster, the whole "draft a 7th rounder and develop him behind your starter" doesn't necessarily work. It was a fine thing to do back when teams rostered three QBs. The backup was the trusty vet that could play in a pinch, the third stringer was the developmental project. But nowadays? You need a guy that can get you through two quarters or two weeks if your QB gets banged up. Trubisky is better than many backup QBs in the league, and also worse than a few of them. He's certainly closer to the top of the list than the bottom. Already knows our system, our coaches, our locker room, and has a friendship with Josh. Good signing. Not everything needs to be advanced calculous. 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 47 minutes ago, stinky finger said: Come on. If Josh goes down, all bets are off. Of course MT isn't the answer. What round are you willing to draft a QB? 5th or later. Strong Arm project 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 As a back up, Mitch is quality he can win some games for you. It’s just the season still goes down if Josh goes down. No quarterback, looked good in that Pittsburgh system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, CNYfan said: 5th or later. Strong Arm project Joe Milton rings a bell… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: We’ve done that before. Doesn’t always work. If he’s coming back it must be for a while and cheap. He’s comfortable here. It can't be any cheaper than 1.65/ yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Steelers cut him. So it’s not a FA signing that counts against the comp pick formula. Beane having a very good day! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Kyle Allen practice Squad josh’s friend position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I wanted to like Mitch, but from what I saw in Pittsburg- he's flat toast. I feel like an UDFA holds more promise. Either way, your likely not winning under MT. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 35 minutes ago, Logic said: Nice. People often have unrealistic expectations of what a backup QB should be. In this day and age, where teams usually only have two QBs on the 53-man roster, the whole "draft a 7th rounder and develop him behind your starter" doesn't necessarily work. It was a fine thing to do back when teams rostered three QBs. The backup was the trusty vet that could play in a pinch, the third stringer was the developmental project. But nowadays? You need a guy that can get you through two quarters or two weeks if your QB gets banged up. Trubisky is better than many backup QBs in the league, and also worse than a few of them. He's certainly closer to the top of the list than the bottom. Already knows our system, our coaches, our locker room, and has a friendship with Josh. Good signing. Not everything needs to be advanced calculous. He was 0-4 as a starter last year. In those 4 games had 4 tds and 5 ints and threw for an average of 153 ypg at 6.1 ypa. None of those numbers inspire confidence that he can get us through 2 quarters or 2 weeks. I agree he knows our locker room in a physical sense but how many players are left from 2 years ago when he was here? I disagree he knows our coaches or our system. We have already hired and fired a coordinator since he left. How many coaches are even left from dabolls staff when he was here? I watched him last year and he was not good at all. This and the haack signing are headscratchers and hopefully just place holders in case the positions can't be improved in the draft or late fa. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Hoping for 150 year, $35k/year deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 38 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Steelers cut him. So it’s not a FA signing that counts against the comp pick formula. Beane having a very good day! JFC with this never ending comp pick conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Meh, dont mind it. We have the most durable QB in the league. Plus let's face it. If Josh is hurt for any period of time over 2 weeks the season is toast anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Couldn’t beat out Pickett or Mason Rudolph. Trubisky is trash. I expect us to draft a QB and he’ll compete for the #2 job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 4 hours ago, Warcodered said: Do they come with their own 49ers O-line, weapons and system included? because sign me up. Purdy was better than the system QB label he keeps getting stuck with as he's played as well as he has but the idea he'd just fit here is a little over the top. I'm just saying to take a chance. Trubisky is awful. He must be a great teammate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 5 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: I'm just saying to take a chance. Trubisky is awful. He must be a great teammate. He’s a back up QB if you look at him in that lens, then he’s pretty good in his role. He can win you a game or two he’s not a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 22 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: I'm just saying to take a chance. Trubisky is awful. He must be a great teammate. Even if we take a chance on a day 3 QB we still need to have a baseline in place. That's the goal for 90% of free agency. Make sure you have baseline talent in place at every position so that you're not reaching for needs in the draft. Ideally some of that baseline talent will be supplanted by rookies, but you can't count on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) Trubisky had flashes in Chicago. Was solid in his previous stint in Buffalo. But c'mon man. You would suck if Matt Canada was your Offensive Coordinator. Edited March 7 by Draconator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I don’t get the love for this guy. Yes he was our former backup. Yes he was a top draft pick that had promise. Yes he’s been horrible lately and has ZERO traits Josh does. Is our season over if Josh gets hurt - yes. So I’m not completely phased at who our backup is. But at least get someone who can sub in and play the same offense that Josh does ICOE. Scrambling ability alone says Mitch is not that. Your backup should be a guy that can go in and win 2-3 games in a 4-5 game stint should Josh have some minor injury. I would have 0 faith in mitch if this happened and the offense would completely change. Go grab a UDFA this draft that has legs and call it a day. I just don’t like this as a backup plan. At all. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 7 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said: I don’t get the love for this guy. Yes he was our former backup. Yes he was a top draft pick that had promise. Yes he’s been horrible lately and has ZERO traits Josh does. Is our season over if Josh gets hurt - yes. So I’m not completely phased at who our backup is. But at least get someone who can sub in and play the same offense that Josh does ICOE. Scrambling ability alone says Mitch is not that. Your backup should be a guy that can go in and win 2-3 games in a 4-5 game stint should Josh have some minor injury. I would have 0 faith in mitch if this happened and the offense would completely change. Go grab a UDFA this draft that has legs and call it a day. I just don’t like this as a backup plan. At all. I disagreed that he has some of the traits that Josh Allen has That is not to say that he is even close to the player that Josh is but he has a good arm and he’s mobile and has plenty of NFL experience And who is not to say that they still can’t draft a guy anybody that you draft which will probably be at the end of the draft is going to need time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 8 hours ago, Steptide said: Him and Josh were bff's from what I remember. Not surprising So were Josh and Matt Barkley…and Kyle Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 8 hours ago, boyst said: Was obvious Why? From watching him painfully try to play in Pittsburgh, my thought was "this guy is toast and I never want to see him on a football field again" I would really like us to have a backup who can actually finish a game constructively or maybe even win one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: I disagreed that he has some of the traits that Josh Allen has That is not to say that he is even close to the player that Josh is but he has a good arm and he’s mobile and has plenty of NFL experience And who is not to say that they still can’t draft a guy anybody that you draft which will probably be at the end of the draft is going to need time He’s never been a truly mobile qb, unless you count his best year in 2018 with 400 yds. If Allen ever goes out for a few games my biggest worry is that you’re just not running the same offense with Mitch, asking him to scramble for 1st downs or running qb draw in the redzone. It’s just not worth the money whatever the terms are. For example Max Duggan was a promising talent and LAC got him in the 7th round on a $795k/yr deal. Has similar traits and abilities to Allen - albeit WAY less than Josh obviously. But I’d trust him and not changing the game plan much vs Mitch for way less money. Idk why we can’t try and find that match in the draft late or UFA/UDFA route. FA cheap guys I would’ve liked instead: Mariota, bridgewater, tyrod 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 hours ago, section122 said: He was 0-4 as a starter last year. In those 4 games had 4 tds and 5 ints and threw for an average of 153 ypg at 6.1 ypa. None of those numbers inspire confidence that he can get us through 2 quarters or 2 weeks. I agree he knows our locker room in a physical sense but how many players are left from 2 years ago when he was here? I disagree he knows our coaches or our system. We have already hired and fired a coordinator since he left. How many coaches are even left from dabolls staff when he was here? I watched him last year and he was not good at all. This and the haack signing are headscratchers and hopefully just place holders in case the positions can't be improved in the draft or late fa. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said: He’s never been a truly mobile qb, unless you count his best year in 2018 with 400 yds. If Allen ever goes out for a few games my biggest worry is that you’re just not running the same offense with Mitch, asking him to scramble for 1st downs or running qb draw in the redzone. It’s just not worth the money whatever the terms are. For example Max Duggan was a promising talent and LAC got him in the 7th round on a $795k/yr deal. Has similar traits and abilities to Allen - albeit WAY less than Josh obviously. But I’d trust him and not changing the game plan much vs Mitch for way less money. Idk why we can’t try and find that match in the draft late or UFA/UDFA route. FA cheap guys I would’ve liked instead: Mariota, bridgewater, tyrod Tyrod Taylor is never coming back to Buffalo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 7 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: I'll take a Keenum any day over a Trubisky. Why not try to get better at the position? Maybe you hit on a Brock Purdy late in the draft or some other mobile QB. Tyrod, Minshew and Wentz are out there. All are much better options than Trubisky - unless Beane feels the price would be too high. Peak Keenum I agree. The version we got was past his best Keenum and worse than Mitch. Minschew I agree is better but he will get a considerably better deal as a result. Wentz royally sucks. He is worse than Mitch and indeed WAS out of the league much of last season. Tyrod isn't coming back here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 9 hours ago, Roundybout said: Better than Kyle Allen IMO He's not worth even a vet min I rather draft a QB and make him the bkup better not be any guaranteed money to this deal. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 19 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: He's not worth even a vet min I rather draft a QB and make him the bkup better not be any guaranteed money to this deal. @GunnerBillMitch is hot garbage pure trash he should get a job at waste management company! Dislike that if u want.. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 minute ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: @GunnerBillMitch is hot garbage pure trash he should get a job at waste management company! Dislike that if u want.. I disagree. He is a middling backup. He is certainly better than Kyle Allen. He has some familiarity with the team and the people. I hope they haven't committed big dollars to him and I would still try and draft a guy day 3. But Mitch as primary backup in 2024 is about as good an option as realistically was out there for them. 3 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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