st pete gogolak Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Interesting to take a quick look at kicker salaries. Tucker makes $6 million, Bass $5, Butker and Elliot $4. A few mediocre kickers make more than Bass. The real deal is the rookie on Dallas who makes 55 yarders like they are extra points. He makes less than $1. 30 years ago, Jimmy Johnson said that kickers are fungible. Not sure if that is true anymore. These days, you better have someone who you are comfortable putting out there to make 50+ yarders. If you do, you pay him. If you don’t, you don’t ( or shouldn’t). 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Another Beane blunder… 3 5 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Beane and company have expressed with acquisitions or contracts that they do in fact value the kicker role. Hauschka was not cheap either if my memory serves me right. Now getting the performance on that investment is different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 No one had a problem with this after his 2022 season. 11 5 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Bass money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJGauna Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Bass earned his contract at the time, he had a down year no doubt, hopefully he rebounds this year. 11 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) He was great in 2022 and earned a new deal. Edited February 12 by BillMafia716ix 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Effing Edmunds. 😡🤬 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 8 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: Another Beane blunder… He's judicious with Pegula's coin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Clark Hunt is cheap. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Why don't we wait till someone is actually good before we throw money at him with these extensions. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Von Miller made $3,429,000 per tackle this season. And you’re complaining about a kicker’s contract 6 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 So what? How much does Josh Allen make, and how many screw ups did he have this year? What about Stephon Diggs? I could go on and on. And I’m 100% positive that you could go around the league, and on each team, find guys who have had a down year and who are making way more than what “they are worth.” This topic is funny, it really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I think we need to move on from Bass while we can without actually hurting us in games. That means drafting a kicker. Take the cap hit. Can’t go into The season with a terrible kicker with the yips. You’re only as good as your last season IMO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 7 minutes ago, Gugny said: Von Miller made $3,429,000 per tackle this season. And you’re complaining about a kicker’s contract one that played very well before signing it nonetheless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 NFL NOT FOR LONG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 7 minutes ago, VaMilBill said: I think we need to move on from Bass while we can without actually hurting us in games. That means drafting a kicker. Take the cap hit. Can’t go into The season with a terrible kicker with the yips. You’re only as good as your last season IMO kickers often come back around. I’m still curious if there’s more to the story here. It still doesn’t add up fully in my opinion. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Butker should demand a huge raise! You could argue he is just as valuable as any TE, WR, or defensive player. And he should hold out until he gets it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 26 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: No one had a problem with this after his 2022 season. Yep. Most kickers have a clunker season in there somewhere. Many rebound and some never do . We’ll see what happens. Hopefully bass refurns to form Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 33 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: Another Beane blunder… Yeah that's not good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Bass has a hook to his kick. None of the best kickers do. Get a good kicker please 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stenbar Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Once a Kicker loses confidence, they are never the same 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 My guy better kick so many FG's during the off-season that he gets leg tremors in his sleep. Practice with people throwing footballs in his direction to simulate pressure. And we still need to bring in competition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 13 minutes ago, Stenbar said: Once a Kicker loses confidence, they are never the same Not true at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 That's because Butker signed his extension in 2020. Bass after the 2022 season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Buddy Hix said: Another Beane blunder… Bass was money when he'd got that extension. Butker won't have same contract very long. Silly to criticize beane here. Aim it at Bass/STs coacj more than anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, Doc said: That's because Butker signed his extension in 2020. Bass after the 2022 season. This ^ amazing how little attention some fans pay to the NFL salary system. The most recent extension is always higher. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Buddy Hix said: Another Beane blunder… I like Beane on the whole, but man, there is a LOT of stuff he doesn't get right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: This ^ amazing how little attention some fans pay to the NFL salary system. The most recent extension is always higher. Almost like there has maybe been some inflation the last 4 years since the pandemic? Edited February 13 by BillsShredder83 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, BillsShredder83 said: Almost like there has maybe been some inflation the last 4 years since the pandemic? Hahahaha. There certainly has , and the NFL was affected by it but not in that way. The NFL cap is tied to revenue. It seemingly always goes up for the NFL - the one exception was the pandemic year with no fans. That was the only time revenue ( and thusly the cap) has gone down in probably decades. NFL revenues just keep climbing year after year . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Bass has two more years of kicking in the worst stadium in the league for kickers. Ask Justin Tucker, the best kicker in history, how he feels about kicking at Highmark in January. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, JJGauna said: Bass earned his contract at the time, he had a down year no doubt, hopefully he rebounds this year. I agree with this. The Dawson Knox contract was much more head scratching than Bass. He had literally done nothing to earn the contract he was given 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 39 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: Almost like there has maybe been some inflation the last 4 years since the pandemic? Shrinkflation from Bass and Miller. Same price, smaller performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, JJGauna said: Bass earned his contract at the time, he had a down year no doubt, hopefully he rebounds this year. Did he though? He has not had a lot of pressure kick opportunities. I have never felt super confident with him. He hit an upright in Detroit when the pressure was in but it went though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Sometimes I hate this place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I believe in Tyler. I think he needs to recommit himself, 110%, to the game of football. That includes strength conditioning and more time kicking and less time golfing. If Tyler re-commits himself, totally, to football, he will be great. If he thinks he can keep up what he has been doing the past 12 months, that is lollygagging, he won't be here in 2025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, CNYfan said: I believe in Tyler. I think he needs to recommit himself, 110%, to the game of football. That includes strength conditioning and more time kicking and less time golfing. If Tyler re-commits himself, totally, to football, he will be great. If he thinks he can keep up what he has been doing the past 12 months, that is lollygagging, he won't be here in 2025. LMAO. I see what you did there. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Why don't we wait till someone is actually good before we throw money at him with these extensions. Yeah but we wanna show what a great culture we have and how much we appreciate guys like Bass and of course Dawson Knox, who is getting paid like a superstar to be a backup. Then we wonder why we can’t get close to winning it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, Jim said: Yeah but we wanna show what a great culture we have and how much we appreciate guys like Bass and of course Dawson Knox, who is getting paid like a superstar to be a backup. Then we wonder why we can’t get close to winning it all. Agree....it's just so inconsistent. We make the right call not extending Davis & Edmunds but get a little prematurely excited for Bass & Knox. Let the contract play all the way out, then make your decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, K-9 said: Bass has two more years of kicking in the worst stadium in the league for kickers. Ask Justin Tucker, the best kicker in history, how he feels about kicking at Highmark in January. Yet Harrison Butker seemed to do fine in that same stadium. And while Bass missed in the mess in Philly, Jake Elliott was nailing 50 plus yarders in the rain. Once again in Buffalo we settle for good enough and reward that instead of looking for better. Our hope for next season is literally just that, hope. There’s no reason to think this ####### is gonna be any better next year, especially after ending our season this year. But yeah sure, he’s just gonna “bounce back” just like Gabe after his “ankle injury” last year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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