JMM Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Question. We are going to have an extra 3rd, the comp for Edmunds. If we want our guy, would that pick and 28 get us into the top 15? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 7 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Not sure about Higgins but I do expect them to take whichever is left over between Maye and Daniels at #3. I personally have Daniels as a 4th round prospect and have JJ as my #3 QB with a 2nd round grade, so that's really why I'd go Harrison in their shoes (on top of the fact that Harrison is an elite WR prospect). Though a very tough call right now I have DM as the #1 prospect at QB though I think he's going 2nd or 3rd in the first. JMO but I cannot imagine JD as a 4th round prospect. I think he's also going 2nd or 3rd overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) 6 minutes ago, JMM said: Question. We are going to have an extra 3rd, the comp for Edmunds. If we want our guy, would that pick and 28 get us into the top 15? Not even close. To move from 27 to 10 the year the Chiefs moved up for Kermit, it cost their next year's first, and they really should have paid more. Just looked at a draft pick trade value chart. The comp pick will come after the last regular third round pick. It might allow you to move up 4 spots. Edited February 1 by Dr. Who 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Not even close. To move from 27 to 10 the year the Chiefs moved up for Kermit, it cost their next year's first, and they really should have paid more. My nightmare is KC leapfrogging us to nab a WR that we covet and would have taken at 28. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) 1 minute ago, starrymessenger said: My nightmare is KC leapfrogging us to nab a WR that we covet and would have taken at 28. That's almost as predictable as what happens after a McDermott defensive time out. Edited February 1 by Dr. Who 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) 12 minutes ago, JMM said: Question. We are going to have an extra 3rd, the comp for Edmunds. If we want our guy, would that pick and 28 get us into the top 15? No…they have traded their fourth round pick the last two years …and it had moved them up two spots … so a pick that is literally the second last in the third is probably getting you four spots max.. Edited February 1 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuscott16 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I hope this is the year they trade back and stockpile picks. Purge the older guys on the roster and inject a youth movement on the team. Draft a WR with first pick and double down in the 3rd or 4th. Add a 3rd wr late or UDFA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROC INTEL Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I want a guy with a good motor and blue collar work ethic. Along with midwestern values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, JROC INTEL said: I want a guy with a good motor and blue collar work ethic. Along with midwestern values. Milk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Milk! And corndogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 50 minutes ago, JMM said: Question. We are going to have an extra 3rd, the comp for Edmunds. If we want our guy, would that pick and 28 get us into the top 15? Value wise it would be around the 24th-25th pick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Josh needs some Milk WRs. Don’t complain, no divas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, JMM said: Question. We are going to have an extra 3rd, the comp for Edmunds. If we want our guy, would that pick and 28 get us into the top 15? I thought you cannot trade comp picks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: I thought you cannot trade comp picks? they changed that rule several years ago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea to trade up for the top 3 I think you'd have to have to have one left on the board at #8. Cos the Falcons are the first team I can genuinely imagine wanting to move back. So dirty birds would take this years and next years first, and our extra 3rd. I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I think the people expecting Beane to move up to get his guy are going to be surprised when we stay where we are. In previous years, Beane was always looking to flip back end roster talent for late round picks, and used them to maneuver around especially in the middle rounds. With the state of the cap and roster, I do not think we have this luxury anymore. With vet turnover likely happening, we will be trying to get younger and cheaper at certain spots that have traditionally been vets for the last few years. I think we’ll see more of these later picks have a shot at the roster, and we might need them more than we are used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 On 1/27/2024 at 1:41 PM, Juice_32 said: Malik Nabers is going to be an absolute monster. I can dream. He’s the one I wish we would make a move for 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonderful Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Take WR with 1st pick then restock/rebuild defense the rest of the draft. Maybe a pick for O-line sprinkled in too. Got to keep trying to stop Mahomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 40 minutes ago, Jerboski said: He’s the one I wish we would make a move for I think @GunnerBill is likely correct that Atlanta at #8 is the earliest you might conceivably have a seller in the top ten. The price would be very high. I would be tempted to pay it for Nabers, but I think it's unlikely he'll fall that far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 6 hours ago, Ga boy said: So dirty birds would take this years and next years first, and our extra 3rd. I hope so. We don't have an extra 3rd. We have one 3rd coming as a comp. We traded ours away for Douglas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 22 hours ago, Pete said: Im guessing Beane signs 2 WR before draft. Kendrick Bourne is a name to keep an eye on. He seperates, is a deep threat, and will be a moderately price WR with upside He's a solid player and would be a good fit for us but I'm hoping we don't use more then 3 mil to sign any Wr in free agency. I hope we attack the Wr position in the draft. We need to draft 2 Wrs in first 5 rds and they need to play heavy snaps in 2024. We need a burner and a yac monster to add to Shakir, Diggs & Kincaid. Adding a vet would keep the rookies on the bench and I rather have those young players getting much needed experience so by the playoffs they will be battle tested sort of like what Balt, KC & GB did this yr. They stuck with there young Wrs and by the end of the season they were settled in there roles and contributing at a high level . I would like to see what little cap space the Bills have be used on Safeties and Dlineman. This is a loaded yr for safeties in free agency u have players like Xaxier McKinney, Jeremy Chinn and Darnel Savage these guys won't break the bank and can contribute immediately in our defense. We can sign a new tandem of Safeties for relatively cheap. I would love to see Chinn in a Bills uniform he would be great in our system. There's a lot more safeties available it's too much to mention them all Antione Winfield Jr and Kyle Duggar are also available but I didn't mention them because they'll cost to much to sign. Basically use the draft for a couple of Wrs and the rest of the draft and free agency for the defense. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 13 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: He's a solid player and would be a good fit for us but I'm hoping we don't use more then 3 mil to sign any Wr in free agency. I hope we attack the Wr position in the draft. We need to draft 2 Wrs in first 5 rds and they need to play heavy snaps in 2024. We need a burner and a yac monster to add to Shakir, Diggs & Kincaid. Adding a vet would keep the rookies on the bench and I rather have those young players getting much needed experience so by the playoffs they will be battle tested sort of like what Balt, KC & GB did this yr. They stuck with there young Wrs and by the end of the season they were settled in there roles and contributing at a high level . I would like to see what little cap space the Bills have be used on Safeties and Dlineman. This is a loaded yr for safeties in free agency u have players like Xaxier McKinney, Jeremy Chinn and Darnel Savage these guys won't break the bank and can contribute immediately in our defense. We can sign a new tandem of Safeties for relatively cheap. I would love to see Chinn in a Bills uniform he would be great in our system. There's a lot more safeties available it's too much to mention them all Antione Winfield Jr and Kyle Duggar are also available but I didn't mention them because they'll cost to much to sign. Basically use the draft for a couple of Wrs and the rest of the draft and free agency for the defense. I agree with your post. I would like to see us sign 2 WR, and draft 2 WR first 4 rounds. I would also like to see Bills sign minimal 4 DL/Edge, and 2 Safetys. A budget RB who can block, short yardage would be nice too. WR, WR, DL, DL, Edge, Safety, Safety are our most pressing needs. Beane's MO is sign useful players, at positions of need, value signings prior to draft. That way we do not enter draft with glaring holes. We do need bodies, so I think we make many budget signings. There has been a sea change in how free agents view Buffalo. Buffalo is a powerhouse, we have Josh ***** Allen, a new stadium on the way, and a rabid, iconic fanbase- Buffalo is a hot destination for free agents now. Edited February 2 by Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 8 minutes ago, Pete said: I agree with your post. I would like to see us sign 2 WR, and draft 2 WR first 4 rounds. I would also like to see Bills sign minimal 4 DL/Edge, and 2 Safetys. A budget RB who can block, short yardage would be nice too. WR, WR, DL, DL, Edge, Safety, Safety are our most pressing needs. Beane's MO is sign useful players, at positions of need, value signings prior to draft. That way we do not enter draft with glaring holes. We do need bodies, so I think we make many budget signings. There has been a sea change in how free agents view Buffalo. Buffalo is a powerhouse, we have Josh ***** Allen, a new stadium on the way, and a rabid, iconic fanbase- Buffalo is a hot destination for free agents now. Hopefully the Wrs we sign are vet min deals and they are signed more to play special teams. Mcd needs to learn to trust rookies more. We can't keep signing players for cheap 1 yr deals and giving them more playing time then our rookies and young vets. This strategy has stunted the growth of our young players at times or outright got them traded like Teller. We need to lean on young players it boosts the team in many ways especially the salary cap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 25 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: Hopefully the Wrs we sign are vet min deals and they are signed more to play special teams. Mcd needs to learn to trust rookies more. We can't keep signing players for cheap 1 yr deals and giving them more playing time then our rookies and young vets. This strategy has stunted the growth of our young players at times or outright got them traded like Teller. We need to lean on young players it boosts the team in many ways especially the salary cap It was a change in blocking scheme that got Teller traded more than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: It was a change in blocking scheme that got Teller traded more than anything. That explains all the scrub vets they brought in that yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Preferably, I would rather have the Bills draft a blue chip WR prospect who can blow coverages off the top. Tremendous speed with track record of production. Such as a Franklin, Worthy and possibly Legette. Legette worries me a bit because he is unrefined and has only one season of good production but that size/speed/build combo is appealing. I would also like to see the Bills use another early to mid rounder on a WR who is a twitchy, polished route running technician who can separate and this draft seems primed to have a number of those sort of potential prospects. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a number of day 2 and 3 picks who go on to be very good receivers in this league. We just have to hit on those picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaoloBillsFanFromItaly Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I will be more interested in Safety Class of next draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantha Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 On 1/27/2024 at 1:42 PM, Brand J said: Do NOT trade up. Whoever we take, I can just about guarantee a guy will go later who will be just as good or better. Happens every draft. Bills have 10 picks in this draft. I totally agree that there will be players outside of round 1 that will be "good or better" than some picked in the first, but with that kind of draft capital, you trust your scouts, and move up on one to three "must have" players for the organization. The Bills are a top team, and I could only see maybe 4 or 5 drafted players at best making the 53 man roster. Bills better be busy retaining their free agents who are playing at a high level to maintain continuity. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 14 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Seems like good value to me Yeah it is- I don’t think he’ll fall out of rd 3. Might not fall out of rd 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) I like Jermaine Burton as a mid round WR. Comparing him to last years class, I think he is a better version of Marvin Mims who went rd 2. Explosive, tough, and a little bit of a screw loose. Edited February 2 by LEBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 22 hours ago, Brand J said: Beane said he traded with MIN for Diggs because he didn’t believe the team could get high enough to select one of the top 3 WRs (Lamb, Jeudy, and Ruggs). With that first rounder the Vikings picked Justin Jefferson and would have him on a cost controlled rookie contract for at least 4 years. I’ve said it before but it bears repeating: if trading up guaranteed you’d be getting a superior talent in comparison to what you could get later, I’d be all for it, but that’s not at all how the NFL draft works. Why people, including Beane, have such a fascination with moving up and losing out on other potential contributors I’ll never understand. Picking the right guy is what matters, NOT where he’s picked. With that said, trade up for the QB if you absolutely believe in him, understandable because he plays the most important position in sports. But for any other position? “That’s a no from me, dawg.” I’ll throw up if Beane trades into the top 10 for a WR, especially considering how this team needs a bevy of good talent on cheap, cost controlled contracts. This is exactly the kind of draft where it’s dumb to make a major move up for a WR…there are too many good receivers available and no one knows who the best three or four will turn out to be. It’s happened time after time and people still never learn…the 2020 draft you mention is a great example, and of course 2014… Edited February 2 by mannc 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Read an interesting stat on UGA WR Rosemy-Jacksaint. In his last 2 years of college, he caught 63 balls for 872 yards and 6 TDs with ZERO drops. We could use a player like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFan said: Read an interesting stat on UGA WR Rosemy-Jacksaint. In his last 2 years of college, he caught 63 balls for 872 yards and 6 TDs with ZERO drops. We could use a player like that. 2 drops on 105 career targets. On the downside, he's going to give you almost nothing after the catch. He almost literally never makes anybody miss and is near the bottom of the class in terms of YAC per reception. He's looked okay at the Senior Bowl so far but definitely has not stood out like some others have. Edited February 2 by DCOrange 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: That explains all the scrub vets they brought in that yr. Sherrfield was a solid signing. Didnt work out but a number 3 on two very good offenses previously. I would like to see 2 similar level vets. And older and younger guy and 2 drafted rookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Tyler Boyd and a first round wide receiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 hours ago, DCOrange said: 2 drops on 105 career targets. On the downside, he's going to give you almost nothing after the catch. He almost literally never makes anybody miss and is near the bottom of the class in terms of YAC per reception. He's looked okay at the Senior Bowl so far but definitely has not stood out like some others have. I don’t know where you get your numbers, but he had 476 of his 535 yards in YAC. He averaged 15.7 yards per catch and 4 TDs. That’s 90% of his yards after the catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 27 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: I don’t know where you get your numbers, but he had 476 of his 535 yards in YAC. He averaged 15.7 yards per catch and 4 TDs. That’s 90% of his yards after the catch. Per PFF he's bottom 3 in the class in terms of avoided tackles and YAC per reception. They have him down for 164 YAC out of 535 this season and 93 out of 337 the year before. The 476 is simply inaccurate; that would mean he only had 59 air yards this season on 34 catches, meaning his average catch was less than 2 yards down the field. Even a short highlight video from this season would show you that can't possibly be true. Edited February 2 by DCOrange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) On 1/31/2024 at 10:20 AM, LabattBlue said: I went searching here for mentions of Nacua prior to the 2023 draft. There were a few, but this one by @KOKBILLS stood out. Kudos! TY very much Sir... But I read that and see all the stuff I got wrong!... If any of y'all want to read my best stuff just look up what I wrote about Pat Mahomes, Chris Jones, and DK Metcalf. Good times... Edited February 2 by KOKBILLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 hours ago, aristocrat said: Tyler Boyd and a first round wide receiver Boyd would be a solid veteran addition IF the $ is reasonable. I'd rather go after Hollywood Brown for his speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Javon Baker sticks out in this video Senior Bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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