oldmanfan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 He did absolutely nothing. We really miss Epenesa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 6 hours ago, That's No Moon said: That's no different. He's essentially said as much before he got hurt. On the plus, he's stopped circumnavigating the globe to get to the QB. At least he's providing a little containment now. Magellan Miller! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 What’s he have 2 tackles since he’s been back? I hardly ever see him in on a play. Bad injury + age = washed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 We are 11 games in now from him being active for two total tackles. I fully get he’s recovering from a major injury but he’s clearly not ready and him being on the field is taking snaps away from others who could be contributing and making an impact. Playing on the DL and having two total tackles is a hard thing to do. I’m just surprised they continue to just roll him out there. Beane and McDermott have to see what the rest of us are seeing. The most frustrating is just his general lack of effort. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 The only difference Von is making for the Bills right now is in payroll. The guy had a plethora of pass rush moves, but now he just plows forward and past the qb. It’s frustrating as ***** to watch over and over and over…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard bills fan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 He was awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 he's setting up the league for the Miami game and beyond. just kinda layin' in the weeds, waiting the strike go bills 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) Having a torn ACL and then having knee surgery, creates a mental hurdle that he has yet to get over, if at all. He like almost any other professional athlete that has had this injury, has to get over the mental part of the injury, because physically he should not be on this team right now as a starter or active player. He should be on IR the rest of this season. He can not generate any positive contributions to the D-Line when he is on the field right now. This team needs players that can contribute 100%, not a player that just goes through the motions at 50% half speed. He is unfortunately too old and he is not the same player anymore. It is time to move on from him. Injury or no injury, at this time he is just a complete waste of a starting spot on this team. OBJ had the same injury and recoup time, and I believe his ACL injury was worse, but OBJ is also 3 years younger than Miller. At least OBJ is out there making a positive contribution for his team, unlike Miller, whom is not. Edited December 24, 2023 by Toyo321 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Bills Fan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: he's setting up the league for the Miami game and beyond. just kinda layin' in the weeds, waiting the strike go bills Coach McD ? Is that you talking in your sleep again? Wake up to reality! Edited December 24, 2023 by Desert Bills Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Get well Floyd and AJ and DaQuan! play Poona! make useless Von inactive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 42 minutes ago, Pete said: Get well Floyd and AJ and DaQuan! play Poona! make useless Von inactive! Yeah we missed Floyd, and AJ last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, PayDaBill$ said: What’s he have 2 tackles since he’s been back? I hardly ever see him in on a play. Bad injury + age = washed I don’t see him- especially when he’s supposed to be setting the edge, but other team has big gain where Von was supposed to be. if we put a tackling dummy at edge, the dummy would be more effective, because at least the runner needs to go around the dummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Just because not getting sack doesn’t mean Von isn’t bringing pressure on the QB, which he is. Beating his blocker and getting in the backfield when he’s in the game. Bad injury Von Miller and just getting his grove back. Brings leadership to that DLine as well. Dont worry about Von because he’s getting more and more comfortable out there and will be a bigger impact every week- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Mikey said: Just because not getting sack doesn’t mean Von isn’t bringing pressure on the QB, which he is. Beating his blocker and getting in the backfield when he’s in the game. Bad injury Von Miller and just getting his grove back. Brings leadership to that DLine as well. Dont worry about Von because he’s getting more and more comfortable out there and will be a bigger impact every week- He is getting chipped pretty often. OC’s are still concerned with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Mikey said: Just because not getting sack doesn’t mean Von isn’t bringing pressure on the QB, which he is. Can you give us video evidence, or at least a time stamp, of when you feel Von is brining pressure? Because when I watch him, he is doing absolutely NOTHING. He has one move right now and it always takes him up and pushed past the QB. It’s even worse when the opponent runs, because then he just stands there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 2 hours ago, PayDaBill$ said: What’s he have 2 tackles since he’s been back? I hardly ever see him in on a play. Bad injury + age = washed He's just not improving. Last night he was invisible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Toyo321 said: he should not be on this team right now as a starter or active player. He should be on IR the rest of this season. huh?...says who, besides you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted December 24, 2023 Author Share Posted December 24, 2023 29 minutes ago, Mikey said: Just because not getting sack doesn’t mean Von isn’t bringing pressure on the QB, which he is. Beating his blocker and getting in the backfield when he’s in the game. Bad injury Von Miller and just getting his grove back. Brings leadership to that DLine as well. Dont worry about Von because he’s getting more and more comfortable out there and will be a bigger impact every week- I wish it were true but this just isn’t what is actually happening in the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 He got close one time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 ineffective half hearted bull rush and runs past the qb That is all he has done since being reactivated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroke 17 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Like many of you I am over this guy, all talk no action. After injury, I'll be back for the playoffs", NO Off season," I'll be back for training camp" NO "I'll be back for the season opener" NO I'll be ready when I get my brace off" NO "I feel great and I am getting better and stronger every day " NO I did not hit that woman and I have not hit any other football player in over a year. Believe me and pay me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 They constantly rush Miller off the left end. The few times they've moved him to the right side he looks much more effective. Didn't see him rush off the right side once yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 I don't get why he isn't using any pass rush moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 I blame McD and DL coach for their moronic decisions to keep Von 'Bail Bond' Miller to keep his useless body on the field week after week after week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 One of the many mysteries I ponder daily. Why does he put on his uniform? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolstoy Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 People, it takes a while to recover from ACL surgery, especially at this elite level. He will be better. Give him time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 44 minutes ago, Tolstoy said: People, it takes a while to recover from ACL surgery, especially at this elite level. He will be better. Give him time. I like your optimism!! Rush left edge.. large RT push him outside rinse 🚿 repeat 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Von's effort and production is downright embarrassing at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 he should not be on this team right now as a starter or active player. He should be on IR the rest of this season. 6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: huh?...says who, besides you? Anyone watching this guy play on the field the last 5 games will tell you the same. No damn effort at all, no pass rush technique, even a 3rd string starting OL or OT can put this guy on the road to nowhere. He is no where near the QB and no where to be found on the field. He is a wasted roster spot right now. We got other guys that are putting in twice the effort as this guy is and they deserve to be on the field, VON DOES NOT!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Didn't read the thread. I just want to say that I think he will be at least useful come playoff time and I definitely didn't give up on him. Give him time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 15 hours ago, Toyo321 said: he should not be on this team right now as a starter or active player. He should be on IR the rest of this season. Anyone watching this guy play on the field the last 5 games will tell you the same. No damn effort at all, no pass rush technique, even a 3rd string starting OL or OT can put this guy on the road to nowhere. He is no where near the QB and no where to be found on the field. He is a wasted roster spot right now. We got other guys that are putting in twice the effort as this guy is and they deserve to be on the field, VON DOES NOT!!! Does "anyone" include the entire Bills staff? go yell at them and tell them who all the other guys are that should be on the roster instead of Miller. who are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 19 hours ago, Stroke 17 said: Like many of you I am over this guy, all talk no action. After injury, I'll be back for the playoffs", NO Off season," I'll be back for training camp" NO "I'll be back for the season opener" NO I'll be ready when I get my brace off" NO "I feel great and I am getting better and stronger every day " NO I did not hit that woman and I have not hit any other football player in over a year. Believe me and pay me! Talkers talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Sucks man he was so good before he got hurt. Now he looks like a shell of himself. Can’t bend the edge. No spin moves. They don’t even attempt to try twist moves with the DT. His knee probably hasn’t responded well to the rehab..or he came back too soon. Something is clearly not right with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Claude Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 I am not disappointed because I didn't expect anything from a 35 year old coming off a ACL. If you want to blame somebody, blame the coaching staff for playing him so many snaps. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 I dont understand. Why they don’t split his reps with Kinsley Jonathan? He is a far better rusher with an amazing motor right now. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 He showed some signs of life against KC’s rookie tackle. Saturday was back to square one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulmm3 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Von should not be on the field for us the rest of the season. He adds nothing and is a net negative. Maybe he just needs more time to recover from the injury and can be productive next year, but he doesn't have it this year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 I’d rather see Oliver getting reps at end, or our ends getting more snaps, or going to a 3-3 look with more blitzes. Bernard/Dodson/Rapp are all better rushers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, paulmm3 said: Von should not be on the field for us the rest of the season. He adds nothing and is a net negative. Maybe he just needs more time to recover from the injury and can be productive next year, but he doesn't have it this year. Agreed. I've not given up on him as a player. There's always next year. But I have given up on him as anything other than a rotational JAG this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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