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  1. I see your point and I can somewhat agree but it is the Bills who have dangled the" SENIORITY" perk over the heads of season ticket holders. During the crappy 70's 80's and the 2000's the Bills kept us on the line with the promise of playoff tickets, first choice at single game tickets, seat upgrades based on seniority and in the 90's the Super Bowl lottery was based on years seniority times number of tickets in a weighted lottery. Except the 1st Super Bowl where they rewarded the original 1960 season ticket holders fist chance at the tickets. So because I stayed while many jumped ship during those losing seasons I think my loyalty should count for something. Before I retired I worked in a union shop. seniority ruled for things like vacation, job bidding and in some cases raises. In your scenario that was wrong because the guys born in the 30's and 40's should not have had any rights over me just because they were born before me. Finally, season ticket holders like me with only so many years left are being asked to pay the same amount as those who are much younger and will be able to use them well into the future. Don't tell me about being able to resell or pass them on to a family member, that doesn't work for everybody. No matter what happens I realize the process will involve a lot of politics and a lot of those in the know getting there before me so I just want a fair playing field. I fear that is not going to happen so all I have going for me is my seniority. Maybe I'll be priced out and all my worrying will be for nothing then all the younger guys and gals will get a shot at my seat and in 50 years you may feel more like me when you have 50 years and tens of thousands of dollars invested. GO Bills
  2. I am also wondering if the PSL don't go over very well after I make my selection at whatever price it costs me can they then lower the price to sell more seats. Will I be locked into the higher price while those who come after me get the bargain price.
  3. I have 50 years of seniority and I am not happy that just because you have more money than me and could afford a better seat you get to choose your seat before me. I was in the 200 section (Van Miller Club) when it was Section H, Row 3 Seats 1 thru 6 from 1974 until they priced me out in 1999 when they made those seats club seats. Now I fall behind those people again. Where is my loyalty rewards. Another peeve of mine when it comes to seniority.... I have had my seats in the same name and same account since 1974, others who sit around me have more seniority only because they have been passed down thru the family. My tix have been in my name longer than these guys have been alive. Don't get mad, hear me out. I have no problem with passing your tix and seniority to a family member, my issue is that people like me should have seniority over those who have more seniority because their family had them. There are season ticket holders in my section with 1960 seniority who haven't been alive as long as I have had tickets. For instance, in the re-seating. I have 50 years, you have 60 years but the original holder passed away in 1995 and willed them to you. I think you still have 60 years but because they have been in your name since 1995 you should be after those of us original holders. Original account holders by seniority.... then full seniority for those who have had an account change in name. Of course its all about the MONEY and they will do what they want as they continue to blow smoke up my a$$.
  4. Well Shaw, like you I have changed. Don't go back to 1960 but started at age 7 in 1963. Only game on TV, NBC and the old AFL. Kemp, McDole, Stratton. Golden Wheels and the like. When I was 11 I delivered The Bradford Era newspaper and they had a promotion, If I got 3 new subscribers to the daily paper I would win a trip to a Bills game at the Rockpile They provided a bus, chaperones and a meal. I bought the 3 subscriptions myself, I wasn't missing the trip. I was hooked. When I turned 17, I got my 1st full time job and bought season tickets and have been there ever since only missing 3 games in that span. Lucky enough to have been to 3 of the 4 Super Bowls. Like you I lived and died with every win and loss. In the last few years I am enjoying the games, the losses still sting but I get over it quicker. My kids and some of my grandkids not so much. Living in the middle of Steelers country it is not easy suffering with the wide right comments or the "we got six." Told my kids on the ride home Sunday night that when I was younger a loss like that was like a friend dying, a younger friend, Now after all these years and all these type of losses it still feels like a friend died but I expect old friends to die, we won't live forever, so enjoy the ride and mount up for the next chapter. Finally on the season tickets, there were years when the Bills really struggled to win games and they were done by Halloween, I remember telling my wife, more than once at the end of the season "that's it I'm done, I can't do this anymore, They're killin me, they're kilin me. The invoice for the next year would come around April and I was like a cocaine addict, I pretend to sniff the invoice and say," just one more time." 50 years and hundreds of thousands of dollars and thousands of traveling miles I'm still waiting. I will move to the new stadium but I am running out of time in another post we can discuss how the games, the fans and the whole experience has changed over the years. In my opinion not so much for the better. You do a great job. Thanks for posting.
  5. Been around here a long time, 60 years and a 48 yr season ticket holder. Just want the younger fans, like my kids and grandkids, who have not seen the best of times to enjoy the moments like today. I remember the 1st championship game over 30 years ago, the Bills won, I cried, big fat snowflake tears. Those happiness tears were only matched by the the birth of my kids. People that aren't real fans of a team just don't get it. Mafia gets it. I will be leaving for the long drive to the Stadium soon, I will do all I can to try and be calm, cool and collected but I am already amped, I can tell by my pacemaker. May all of us, young, old, former players, current players and anybody else who has had enough of Tay, Trav, Pat, Btit and the Chiefs come together today. They're killin me Whitey, They're killin me! GO BILLS!
  6. Didn't read the post, can only surmise it is about Tay and or Trav. I think it would be great if Kim is able to attend the game and she and her team are the focus today. GO BILLS!
  7. Still hoping for the Ravens to lose just because they let the Steelers in by not playing any starters. Of course Aikman just gave the yearly excuse as to why Ravens are a little sluggish. Had week off, maybe a little rusty, slow start. Of course 2 weeks ago it was they deserve the rest, get fresh legs, MVP doesn't need the reps, he'll be ready. Year after year at playoff time it's the same stuff. I want the AFC Championship game in Buffalo. I want al of you younger fans to experience what it was like in the 90's You think its crazy now, just wait. PLEASE let it happen! GO BILLS
  8. Interesting to note that Marty Schottenheimer was on that 1968 Bills team. He then coached the Chiefs for 10 years in the 90's. He had left the Browns who just couldn't get over the hump.(2-4 in playoffs) I was never worried when his teams played the Bills in a playoff game as I had long before called him Marty Choke-en-himer. He was 3-7 in playoffs with the Chiefs. Years have passed, I am older and I have more respect for him. Actually, him as a coach is a lot like being a Bills fan, just can't get to the Promise land. I still have a chance his is gone. GO BILLS?
  9. Going back to the old AFL days at the Rockpile, one of my 1st games. BUCK BUCHANON, OTIS TAYLOR, JAN STENERUD, WILLIE LANIER, QB LEN DAWSON AND COACH HANK STRAM. A few that jump out at me.
  10. Yes actually that has been said. I'm too old to know how to find the quote or the clip. If you are of a younger and more computer savvy check out the morning show on ESPN with "Evan, Canty and Michelle" from last Friday. They were laughing and giggling and hoping the Bills would lose and the turn over machine Josh Allen would be to blame. Evan, the Patriots fan was/is the worst. Trust me, as 48 year season ticket holder nobody and I mean nobody is enjoying this win streak more than me. I've been around for the good the bad and the ugly. Back in the early days we didn't have social media, 24 hour sport talk with so many idiot talking heads just trying to get a click or a rise from fans. It is so successful because it works. As I said I try to ignore it but it is hard to get away from it. I will defend our Bills when these type of accusations Pi** me off. I try not to be like them, I'm not adding that word, I heard it with my own 68 year old ears. Thank you Sir. I wish I could have made my point as well as that. You DA Man!
  11. Is this my wife? Sounds like you darling. You know hard I try, " I just can't kill the beast."
  12. I'm kinda on the injured list this week. Still trying to get my voice back from Monday. Hoping to be at !00% by Sunday night. Quietly, go bills! Please do not let this guy be open every time the Chiefs need a big play. His routes seem so simple and obvious I wonder how he always seems to be open.
  13. I try so hard not to listen or care what outsiders say about the Bills but this week has been hard for me to ignore the idiots and excuse makers as to why the Bills were able to beat the Steelers. One narrative is, the Bills were supposed to beat Pitts because they had injuries to their best player. Correct me if I'm wrong but the Bills also are dealing with injuries. The Steelers would not have even been in the playoffs if they hadn't squeaked out a win against the 3rd stringers that the Ravens fielded the week before. Mike Tomlin is a great coach. Is he really, So what if wins during the regular season, he's a loser in the post season of late. He so smart he made the decision to go with Mason Rudolph! well if he's so smart why did it take him 14 games on inept offense with Trubisky and Pickett before making the change to the guy who had been on the team for the last 5 years or so. Pitts got a break because they cancelled the game because of the pitts run game not being as good as the Bills. AHHH not so much. They say, Josh Allen is a turn over machine he will cost the Bills. He definitely has his share of picks but the dude is a player. I ain't getting rid of him for any other QB in the league. I don't know if the Bills are going to the Super Bowl let alone win it but I know at 6-6 they were written off as underachievers. I thought it was close to over at 6-6 and I am the most optimistic Bills fan to ever live, they proved me wrong, shame on me. See you all on Sunday, rain, snow, cold, wind Tay or no Tay. I so want this game, please be loud and proud! They're killin me Whitey, They're killin me! GO BILLS
  14. Must be a real pain to clean the snow out of a stadium that is all packed down after Mondays game Adding to that is the fact that the snow is now littered with thousands of beer cans, pizza boxes, cups and whatever else is strewn around. good luck to those that have and will volunteer to clean it up the best they can. Finally, I thought the roads, parking lots and walk ways around the stadium were in great shape considering the the weather the 2 days before the game. I congratulate the Bills and anyone else who contributed to that almost impossible task of getting the game played. My only complaint, the beer window and concession behind Section 135 was closed. Seems there were frozen pipes or something weather related. Didn't stop us from finding those victory beers. Go Bills!
  15. Much more concerned with stopping the screen. The pitts passing game is all about short screens to backs and wr's'
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