WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 The worst part is that the Bills literally can't afford to cut him straightaway. The man has been a non-factor this year. It's time to move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 has anyone got a quote from Joe Mixon on the subject yet? just wondering.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Coldfronts said: Just WOW if true. The GFs side of the story https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/buffalo-bills-nfl-von-miller-faces-arrest-in-dallas-texas-domestic-violence-case/287-2904617b-5d0d-4252-a321-28d8f61807f0 Woof. Not good. Not the end of the world, but not good. Video might make it a little tougher for Mr. Green to help Miller out of this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preds Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 BILLSY 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: A General Manager at a paper mill makes a lot of money. Do you think he works all those hours because he loves making paper or is it because they pay him well? Money is the ultimate factor in every position in every industry. It seems, for whatever reason, athletes are criticized when money is the top motivator. NFL players are motivated by money, the fans, the attention, the glory, the rings, their teammates...it's not just one thing. These players were once little kids and fans once themselves. If the players didn't really care about the fans, they wouldn't give back so much to the community. Fans are mentioned all the time in post game conferences. Allen brought them up after losing to Jacksonville because he felt bad the Bills didn't give them a good product on the field after making that trip. These guys aren't all just shallow people POS. You can see it in Allen that he wants to win a Super Bowl for the fans and city of Buffalo. Correct, but the original point was players are allowed to take care of their bodies/minds/spirits. Another poster made comments expressing disagreement that players get 4 days off during a bye week and used the value of a contract for reasons why they shouldn’t. That sparked the comments from some of us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: The worst part is that the Bills literally can't afford to cut him straightaway. The man has been a non-factor this year. It's time to move on. Oh he’s been a factor. Every time he’s on the field the Bills get gashed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Didn’t this happen already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 "The Bills Organization has been questioned about Miller's whereabouts, responding that the last known sighting was Thanksgiving Day 2022" 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Prior to this season Von Miller was a unanimous lock for the hall of fame. I mean it seemed so far fetched that he wouldn't make it... now ? What do you guys think ? A whole season with no sacks 1 tackle and no effort and now this .... does he still make it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 6 weeks pregnant? She take a test that night? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Maybe, maybe not. Depends what other evidence (911, photos, security cams) is available. But there is a good chance that it goes away if she doesn’t cooperate. 95% of the time it is dropped. All you have is body cam and uncooperative witness statements, and a prosecutor realizes that with only that at trial they will lose, even if they are and know they are right to prosecute. Sad to say the prosecutor will need much more, like you said, security cams, but then getting it and having it be admissible isnt an easy task for a prosecutor Edited November 30, 2023 by TBBills Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Woof. Not good. Not the end of the world, but not good. Video might make it a little tougher for Mr. Green to help Miller out of this one. Not good is an understatement. If any part of this is true, esp the grabbing of the neck, then Terry has to move to cut him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) They said this happened on Wednesday. What I want to know is why was Von in Dallas and not practicing with the team. It's not like he doesn't need the reps. Are we off because of the bye week? Edited November 30, 2023 by TampaBillsJunkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 These darn culture guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 How can we get out of this bad contract? This guy looks like a shell of the player he was before the injury. Now he’s back and a $20 million cap hit . Beane has overpaid some of our veterans who have not been productive. If he has any chance to offload this guy it would be a feather in his cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said: 95% of the time it is dropped. All you have is body cam and uncooperative witness statements, and a prosecutor realizes that with only that at trial they will lose, even if they are and know they are right to prosecute. Sad to say the prosecutor will need much more, like you said, security cams, but then getting it and having it be admissible isnt an easy task for a prosecutor A 911 call + security cam video might do the trick here. But yes, I agree with you, a non-cooperating victim typically will lead to a motion to dismiss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: It was designed to get out of after 3 years and I understand why he made the signing. Clearly, we needed pass rush help. So, yes while he can be blamed. It should also be understood the reason he made the move in the first place Beane drafts 3 DEs in the first 2 rounds and then signs a 32 year old DE coming off a major injury to a 6 year $114 million contract. What a ***** wizard 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Im wondering what the Bills are doing at this point. How do you go about an investigation for cases like this? Thats got to be a serious headache for them to deal with beyond the super migraine that this season has become! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, TampaBillsJunkie said: They said this happened on Wednesday. What I want to know is why was Von in Dallas and not practicing with the team. It's not like he doesn't need the reps. Are we off because of the bye week? Word is they gave the team the week off... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 He hasn’t done anything close to violent on the field since he came back from injury, but he ca do it at home?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Einstein said: Oh and we have a top 3 NFL QB. That alone should be a ticket to perennial playoffs. Somehow we have screwed that up. So far the Bills have never missed the playoffs with Josh as the starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG Murdock Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 This sounds pretty ominous for Miller. Innocent until proven of course, but the Dallas police have a warrant for his arrest, so there must be something. If true, Just more proof that he's just a phony. All that non-stop rah-rah talk, and on the side he's clunking his girlfriend in the head. Its 100% he has a morality close, that's boilerplate in ANY athletes contract. I hope his baby momma is OK. If this is true, Bills can rip up his contract and not pay another dime. There's goes his wish to be a GM, and a broadcaster. So far Bills have paid hin $65M+ for 6 sacks, and 18 tackles (14 of the tackles in plus territory). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: A 911 call + security cam video might do the trick here. But yes, I agree with you, a non-cooperating victim typically will lead to a motion to dismiss. yeah it could, but prosecutors think about their careers and losing high profile trials will kill a career (or make one), so if it isnt a slam dunk, he probably gets off scott free, other than paying baby momma off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 6 hours ago, wppete said: They are ruining Josh Allen’s prime years, feel bad for Josh. This. I'm hoping JA doesn't become the next Brees / Rodgers where they play forever with great numbers on mediocre cap strapped teams. And where those 2 only got one SB win each, I hope JA gets just one too. I almost feel like it's slipping away with this team as is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Turk71 said: Beane drafts 3 DEs in the first 2 rounds and then signs a 32 year old DE coming off a major injury to a 6 year $114 million contract. What a ***** wizard No one called him a wizard for the move. It was clear that pass rush help was needed. He went out and got Von the same way he did with Floyd this past offseason. You may be frustrated with the season. But Beane shouldn't be shouldering much blame. The dude has given McDermott the pieces. McDermott is the one failing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG Murdock Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 26 minutes ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said: Prior to this season Von Miller was a unanimous lock for the hall of fame. I mean it seemed so far fetched that he wouldn't make it... now ? What do you guys think ? A whole season with no sacks 1 tackle and no effort and now this .... does he still make it? This is what you care about? Really? HOF? If he's guilty, he'll be doing time at worst, and have a record as an abuser at minimum. No HOF, No future GM, No future broadcaster. You need a life dude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazinBill Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 46 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: A General Manager at a paper mill makes a lot of money. Do you think he works all those hours because he loves making paper or is it because they pay him well? Money is the ultimate factor in every position in every industry. It seems, for whatever reason, athletes are criticized when money is their top motivator. NFL players are motivated by money, the fans, the attention, the glory, the rings, their teammates...it's not just one thing. These players were once little kids and fans once themselves. If the players didn't really care about the fans, they wouldn't give back so much to the community. Fans are mentioned all the time in post game conferences. Allen brought them up after losing to Jacksonville because he felt bad the Bills didn't give them a good product on the field after making that trip. These guys aren't all just shallow people POS. You can see it in Allen that he wants to win a Super Bowl for the fans and city of Buffalo. I'm confused and not seeing how my comment aligns to your statement We can surely agree to disagree - all I'm really saying they make decisions to play a game and get paid well - they do it by choice - to clarify that is the ONLy in any of the post that I'm commenting on If someone makes a choice to be a bullfighter and then gets gored I don't feel bad for them either- Unless your EMT /Fire fighter/police officer or Veteran ( no disrespect to anyone true hero I accidentally left out) I say choose your rate choose your fate 1 hour ago, HardyBoy said: As a fan, what you contribute to the equation and receive from it is unchanged between then and now Ummm...sure? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 He'll buy her a new car ... she'll drop the charges ... The NFL won't bother to suspend him without her going through with it ... Von will remain a Bill and take up room on the bench or filling in if someone gets hurt, until the Bills can get out of his contract without having to cut Josh. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazinBill Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, frostbitmic said: He'll buy her a new car ... she'll drop the charges ... The NFL won't bother to suspend him without her going through with it ... Von will remain a Bill and take up room on the bench or filling in if someone gets hurt, until the Bills can get out of his contract without having to cut Josh. Sad but true sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Disgusting if true. No patience for DV crap, period. “Burn it all” indeed Von—right out of town 👋. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Von can't sack a QB so he assaults a pregnant woman. Rumor is part of it was captured on video. Career ending move. What an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Okay so you did answer my question. You do want to the Bills to be the ONLY team in the ENTIRE NFL to have shorten bye weeks to practice. Come to Buffalo, we aren't going to give you full bye weeks while 31 other teams will. In your mind, 4 days should be enough for them. Practicing or playing every week since late July when they report to camp. Not to mention OTA's and weight training/conditioning, training room, film....it's grueling. Every weekend late July to January (longer if you're in the playoffs) is taken away by football. And you say it makes "absolutely no sense" for them to have a week off? This sounds like someone who has never done anything physically exerting for long periods of time. I don't know if you have or haven't but it definitely sounds like you haven't. IMO a full week off given the state of play of this team, yes, was too much. They have months on end and tons of money to travel the world, after our season ends, which as a direct result of the state of play of this team will likely be in just over five weeks from now. Who cares what other teams do. Do you? Otherwise, sorry that you disagree with me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Thinking about how this could benefit the bills roster and such feels wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 34 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: So far the Bills have never missed the playoffs with Josh as the starter. His rookie year, 2018 the Bills did not make the playoffs. Allen was the main starter, strarted 11 out of 16 games. He played in 12. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 6 hours ago, MikePJ76 said: Eff this guy. Put him in a rocket and shoot him to the moon. Assaulting a pregnant woman? Zero Tolerance. He should be cut by the end of the day and you eat the cap number, make a statement that it is not tolerated and move on. To bad the bills didn't claim derek barnett last week before houston did. They should at least get the facts first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: They should at least get the facts first. Well somone grabbed he by the throat and bruised her neck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, SoonerBillsFan said: Well somone grabbed he by the throat and bruised her neck. Why's the carpet all wet, Todd?? I don't know, Margot!! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Well somone grabbed he by the throat and bruised her neck. I don't know. I'm just reading through this thread now and woke up like 2 hours ago. So far I have seen zero information and a bunch of people jumping for joy to cut him. If he is guilty of it then I want him cut too. I just want to know the facts first. I think that is reasonable. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) Any sign of OJ & AC driving around Dallas in a White Bronco? I am sure they want to help Non out. Edited November 30, 2023 by LabattBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, HardyBoy said: Thinking about how this could benefit the bills roster and such feels wrong Totally get what you're saying. I try and separate the human side from the Football side. From the human side I hope the best for all involved. I wasn't there so🤷🏼♂️ From the football side, I root for the Buffalo Bills and not the Von Allen's. So if he's innocent, I hope he's exonerated, back on the field and production increases. If he's guilty of something, I hope the Bills find a way to keep every penny away from a domestic abuser and have that money to restock the Buffalo Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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