Von Miller faces arrest in domestic violence case in Dallas

[Mango]

8 minutes ago, Process said:

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Just to make sure people know as they play catch up to all this, she recorded the altercation and provided it to the police and then they issued an arrest warrant. 
 

Edited December 1, 2023 by Mango

[White Linen]

20 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

 

If they do then the prosecutor is a scumbag too.  No prosecutor should drop a case they have good evidence on.

 

My 18 year old son was held at gun point at a gas station in Charlotte NC. They stole his truck and smashed it into a convenient store attempting to shoot open the ATM machine.   All captured on video.  They were caught and arrested.  Prosecutor dropped the case.  

[Wayne Arnold]

1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

This also doesn't make sense

 

She told him she is going to call the police and he left the house.  She then calls the police and says "My boyfriend IS choking and hitting me."

 

I mean, I think something happened here, but some of these statements are weird.

 

Yeah I noticed that too but I think what that means is that she still thought he was in the house and so she wasn't quite out of danger. She then realized that he had left while she started the call and begins to calm down "Yeah, I don't know." Maybe having regrets calling 911 (even though she absolutely should have).

 

At the point Von is leaving the house he already knows he's f'd.

 

Something tells me these two are not a match made in heaven and long for this world.

I joke around a lot but this is a serious situation because it reminds me a bit of OJ and Nicole Brown. Putting your hands on a woman is serious *****. Because it's an indicator of a situation that can escalate to unthinkable levels.

 

I'm not a "Von-Miller-must-be-cut-immediately-because-I-hate-violence-against-women-and-this-is-about-me-and-my-feelings!" virtue signaler. It's just a very sad thing.

[Beck Water]

11 hours ago, Simon said:

Depending on the outcome, that might be the end of his plan to become an NFL GM down the road.

But we should wait on that outcome.

 

It doesn't sound good

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/bills-lb-von-miller-turns-himself-in-on-felony-domestic-violence-charge

 

Miller has turned himself in after being charged.

 

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The alleged assault occurred on Wednesday, according to a police affidavit in which officers wrote that Miller twice put his hands on the neck of the woman, pulled out a chunk of her hair and threw her onto a couch. The woman was treated for minor injuries, including bruising on her neck, police said.

The woman and Miller have been in a relationship for seven years and have children together, police wrote in an affidavit supporting the arrest warrant.

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-owners-endorse-new-personal-conduct-policy-0ap3000000441758

 

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The new policy lays out a clear series of steps to be taken when there is an incident that requires review. New measures include:

» Additional NFL-funded counseling and services for victims, families, and violators.

» A more extensive list of prohibited conduct.

» Independent investigative procedures.

» Specific criteria for paid leave for an individual formally charged with a crime of violence, including domestic violence, sexual assault and child abuse.

» An expert group of outside advisors to review and evaluate potential violations and consult on other elements of the policy.

» A baseline suspension of six games without pay for violations involving assault, battery, domestic violence, dating violence, child abuse, other forms of family violence, or sexual assault, with consideration given to possible mitigating or aggravating circumstances.

 

As I understand these criteria, Miller should be placed on the Commissioner's Exempt List immediately (which means he will still be paid, but won't count against the Bills Roster).  He is facing a mandatory suspension of six games, even if he pleads to a lesser charge, provided the league's own investigation finds grounds to believe domestic violence occurred.   And it sounds as though there is evidence - bruising on her neck, busted laptop, chunk of pulled out hair.

1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Yeah I noticed that too but I think what that means is that she still thought he was in the house and so she wasn't quite out of danger. She then realized that he had left while she started the call and begins to calm down "Yeah, I don't know." Maybe having regrets calling 911 (even though she absolutely should have).

 

At the point Von is leaving the house he already knows he's f'd.

 

Something tells me these two are not a match made in heaven and long for this world.

I joke around a lot but this is a serious situation because it reminds me a bit of OJ and Nicole Brown. Putting your hands on a woman is serious *****. Because it's an indicator of a situation that can escalate to unthinkable levels.

 

I'm not a "Von-Miller-must-be-cut-immediately-because-I-hate-violence-against-women-and-this-is-about-me-and-my-feelings!" virtue signaler. It's just a very sad thing.

 

Reportedly they've been together 7 years and have several kids

 

Putting the hands on the neck and applying pressure (strangulation or attempted strangulation) is considered a huge "red flag" in DV work because it's considered a serious pre-event indicator for homicide.

[LabattBlue]

11 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Sadly, this is how domestic calls go the majority of the time. 

 

 

…especially when the accused is worth tens of millions.  

[Beck Water]

11 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

I was gonna say let's not have the Matt Araiza situation all over again... 

 

I could always be proven wrong, but this does not seem anywhere close to the Araiza situation from what has come out to date.

[nedboy7]

I was convinced he was guilty even before the accusations.  I know my rights. 

[AuntieEm]

11 hours ago, Simon said:

Depending on the outcome, that might be the end of his plan to become an NFL GM down the road.

But we should wait on that outcome.

  I had the same thought, while we wait for any facts to be verified.  Might be ring video footage out there, or maybe he has a alibi that is airtight that disproves any claim of assault. 

Without being cleared with solid evidence he may find it hard to be employed by any nfl team in any capacity.   I always thought he was a decent guy and not one with no self control.  Then again maybe he has used steroids just was good at knowing how to mask it.   Gotta see what the facts prove.

 

 

 

 

[Beck Water]

21 minutes ago, Mango said:

Just to make sure people know as they play catch up to all this, she recorded the altercation and provided it to the police and then they issued an arrest warrant. 
 

 

Right and there's also evidence (busted laptop she says he stomped on, chunk of hair, bruising on her neck).

 

The majority of DV victims recant (54.8% according to one recent study).  There are multiple reasons for this, most of them having nothing to do with a question of whether or not the assault actually happened as the victim's initial testimony describes. 

One very straightforward reason, if this woman is pregnant and has other children by Von, is financial support.

Edited December 1, 2023 by Beck Water

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[Mango]

Just now, Beck Water said:

 

Right and there's also evidence (busted laptop she says he stomped on, chunk of hair, bruising on her neck).

 

The majority of DV victims recant (54.8% according to one recent study).  There are multiple reasons for this.  One very straightforward reason, if this woman is pregnant and has other children by Von, is financial support.

Oh totally. My mother was in an abusive marriage.
 

[Beck Water]

1 minute ago, Mango said:

Oh totally. My mother was in an abusive marriage.
 

 

I'm sorry.  I hope she was able to get out safely, and I hope you've been able to overcome what are often lasting and traumatic effects on the kids.

[mrags]

1 hour ago, Beast said:

Von wanted to be an NFL GM after he retired.

 

He can probably say goodbye to that as well.

I’m not sure about that. I mean, Russ Brandon was an actual GM. Lol

[Scott7975]

28 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

My 18 year old son was held at gun point at a gas station in Charlotte NC. They stole his truck and smashed it into a convenient store attempting to shoot open the ATM machine.   All captured on video.  They were caught and arrested.  Prosecutor dropped the case.  

 

OMG I'm sorry.  Insane that case was dropped.

[AlfaBill]

29 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

My 18 year old son was held at gun point at a gas station in Charlotte NC. They stole his truck and smashed it into a convenient store attempting to shoot open the ATM machine.   All captured on video.  They were caught and arrested.  Prosecutor dropped the case.  

Wow that’s crazy. Hope your son is ok

[Scott7975]

29 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Yeah I noticed that too but I think what that means is that she still thought he was in the house and so she wasn't quite out of danger. She then realized that he had left while she started the call and begins to calm down "Yeah, I don't know." Maybe having regrets calling 911 (even though she absolutely should have).

 

At the point Von is leaving the house he already knows he's f'd.

 

Something tells me these two are not a match made in heaven and long for this world.

I joke around a lot but this is a serious situation because it reminds me a bit of OJ and Nicole Brown. Putting your hands on a woman is serious *****. Because it's an indicator of a situation that can escalate to unthinkable levels.

 

I'm not a "Von-Miller-must-be-cut-immediately-because-I-hate-violence-against-women-and-this-is-about-me-and-my-feelings!" virtue signaler. It's just a very sad thing.

 

Possible.  Also possible reporters are ass. 

[Mango]

16 minutes ago, AuntieEm said:

  I had the same thought, while we wait for any facts to be verified.  Might be ring video footage out there, or maybe he has a alibi that is airtight that disproves any claim of assault. 

Without being cleared with solid evidence he may find it hard to be employed by any nfl team in any capacity.   I always thought he was a decent guy and not one with no self control.  Then again maybe he has used steroids just was good at knowing how to mask it.   Gotta see what the facts prove.

 

 

 

 

She recorded the interaction and gave it to the police when they showed up. There is no alibi to be had. 
 

Certainly not an excuse but I wouldn’t be shocked if he was coked up and maybe that’s why he waited to turn himself in. That’s pure speculations 

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, Mango said:

She recorded the interaction and gave it to the police when they showed up. There is no alibi to be had. 
 

Certainly not an excuse but I wouldn’t be shocked if he was coked up and maybe that’s why he waited to turn himself in. That’s pure speculations 

Wtf haha…

 

ok, this thread has it all now 

[Scott7975]

42 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

How do I link the Von signing with the Bills thread here?  
 

Can’t say I’ve enjoy the Von experience though all the facts aren’t out. But this just sums up this season. It’s not fun and it’s been so fun for the last few years. This sucks. 
 

and whatever in that situation (he’s a garbage human being if he hurt her and she’s dumb for staying with him), why adults stay in toxic relationships is so crazy to me. I feel bad for the kids. 

 

What do you mean "link the Von signing?" 

[Wayne Arnold]

5 minutes ago, Mango said:

Certainly not an excuse but I wouldn’t be shocked if he was coked up and maybe that’s why he waited to turn himself in. That’s pure speculations 

 

Thank you for clarifying. The "coked up" part made it sound official.