mrags Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, birdo67 said: Von wears #40. Let's end this at page 40. But he used to where 58. And if you add up the numbers 40 and 58 you get 98. But to top it off you have a $120m contract. So that would be 218. But then add the felony 3d charge in Texas and you have a sentence of 2-10 years. Since he didn’t assault her with a deadly weapon I’m gonna go on the lower side. So let’s call it 220. That’s where this thread will end. 220 pages. 1 1 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonderful Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 For those passing judgement, shame on you. Wait to the facts come out! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, DapperCam said: It's really hard to win a case without a cooperating victim. Usually DAs like to win, and only take on cases they are pretty sure they will win. A few years ago a the husband of a coworker walked into the school we both worked at, and started screaming for her. When she came out into the hallway he immediately grabbed her and tried to force her to come with him. When she refused, he began to choke her out, in public. Two custodians (who happened to also be football coaches) and I forcibly removed him from the premises. He luckily didn’t fight back much, I think he realized that the odds weren’t with him. She refused to cooperate with the school resource officer who showed up soon after, even though it was blatantly public. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mr. Wonderful said: For those passing judgement, shame on you. Wait to the facts come out! Hey. Don’t ruin our hopes and dreams that we can get out of this contract. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, DapperCam said: What do you think he can say from his side that will make things more favorable? Unless the reported details have been fabricated, I think he's screwed. The police were there immediately after the incident and collected evidence. His only chance is the girlfriend refusing to cooperate and using his high priced lawyers and influence to get some sort of plea bargain. Guilty til proven innocent. Got it. All police reports are always 100% accurate, even when only 1 side of the story was told. Makes sense. And clearly we all know their relationship and what it consisted of. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 8 hours ago, muppy said: @Tuco thoughts mate? All depends on how it's written. But if he gets suspended that's one thing that the CBA covers. Other written stuff can be included. I've already read where they could get out of his guaranteed salary next year but the prorated bonus amounts can be different because they cover more than one year. Lots of variables right now and too early to really know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 37 minutes ago, Mr. Wonderful said: For those passing judgement, shame on you. Wait to the facts come out! Hopefully they come out sooner than him getting pressure on the QB this season. 1 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, McBean said: Between the HC, record, salary cap situation, and now this, this organization is a huge mess. Clean house from the top all the way down to the janitor. I’m gonna need a new username. Not too much of an over reaction. Fire everybody. Let's go back to 2010. Those were the good old days. Yea, right. Edited December 1, 2023 by longtimebillsfan 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ToGoGo said: The police report is one sided and makes it seem like Miller snapped for no reason. He’s not Richie Incognito. There’s a side to this story that’s missing. I'm not saying Miller did what is alleged. Clearly the police and prosecutors believe there is evidence, since he's been charged and has turned himself in. Clearly sometimes the police and prosecutors are wrong and if they aren't, it's difficult to prosecute a crime if the victim won't cooperate. So whether a prosecution will result is still unknown. I probably shouldn't go here, but assuming the actions took place as alleged, exactly what reasons or "side" do you believe might justify putting your hands around the neck of/strangling your pregnant partner? 1 hour ago, Bruffalo said: A few years ago a the husband of a coworker walked into the school we both worked at, and started screaming for her. When she came out into the hallway he immediately grabbed her and tried to force her to come with him. When she refused, he began to choke her out, in public. Two custodians (who happened to also be football coaches) and I forcibly removed him from the premises. He luckily didn’t fight back much, I think he realized that the odds weren’t with him. She refused to cooperate with the school resource officer who showed up soon after, even though it was blatantly public. Technically, if there is solid evidence (like witness testimony from you and the two custodians), the prosecutor can file charges without the victim's cooperation. How often they do, can't say. Edited December 1, 2023 by Beck Water 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, mrags said: But he used to where 58. And if you add up the numbers 40 and 58 you get 98. But to top it off you have a $120m contract. So that would be 218. But then add the felony 3d charge in Texas and you have a sentence of 2-10 years. Since he didn’t assault her with a deadly weapon I’m gonna go on the lower side. So let’s call it 220. That’s where this thread will end. 220 pages. ground up and in the freezer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Tuco said: All depends on how it's written. But if he gets suspended that's one thing that the CBA covers. Other written stuff can be included. I've already read where they could get out of his guaranteed salary next year but the prorated bonus amounts can be different because they cover more than one year. Lots of variables right now and too early to really know. One point I alluded to earlier is that the NFL's DV policy requires that the league conduct their own investigation, and the player be suspended if they believe DV occurred even if there isn't a criminal case. Greg Hardy (Carolina DE) jury trial for his DV case fell apart and was dismissed when the victim disappeared (allegedly after receiving a large settlement from Hardy). The NFL investigated and suspended him for 10 games anyway (appealed and reduced to 4) Tyrel Dodson DV charge was dropped to misdemeanor disorderly conduct/disruptive behavior - he entered a diversion program and had the charges expunged, but the league investigation suspended him 6 games anyway. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Irv said: Another reason to ditch the bye week. NFLPA f'd up. But it could have happened in the off-season too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Why file the police report then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Can't he be a normal guy and just fly to Brazil and take in a Tay Tay concert. Sheeesh! /smdh... 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 9 hours ago, Reks Ryan said: His rookie year, 2018 the Bills did not make the playoffs. Allen was the main starter, strarted 11 out of 16 games. He played in 12. You know you're right. I didn't count that year cuz it was total purge and reload year and I didn't realize Josh started/played in that many games. I remember going to two games that year. The Bears when Nasty Nate started and the Cheats when Derek Anderson started. Then there was also the legendary Barkley start vs the Jets. That was an ugly but necessary season that catapulted us into 4 straight playoff seasons, hopefully 5 or more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Why file the police report then? Well obviously the two of them have talked since the incident and this is what she’s saying now, but the police are required to file a report once responding to a call and seeing evidence (her bruises, etc.) of a possible crime. So she didn’t file anything, the cops did. Edited December 1, 2023 by JoPoy88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 53 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: Well obviously the two of them have talked since the incident and this is what she’s saying now, but the police are required to file a report once responding to a call and seeing evidence (her bruises, etc.) of a possible crime. So she didn’t file anything, the cops did. True. She called the police so her comments don't exactly align. Who knows what happened between now and when she made those comments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Wonder what this does to his aspirations to become a General Manager or HC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 6 hours ago, Mr. Wonderful said: For those passing judgement, shame on you. Wait to the facts come out! I hear you. I worked as a defense attorney for years. unless she completely lied about the WHOLE thing though, he’s cooked. And rightfully so. The report is disturbing. More times than not, where there is smoke there is definitely fire. At this point I hope this clears a massive amount of cap. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonInBuffalo Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: True. She called the police so her comments don't exactly align. Who knows what happened between now and when she made those comments. She probably figured/found out how much money it would cost her and her children if he went to jail and never played football again. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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