Success Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 How many games like this do we have to lose. How many games where the defense FOLDS at the end. I don't care how well they play in the 1st quarter. We have to move on. We're likely missing the playoffs now. It makes no sense unless there is a change. 4 13 1 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, Success said: How many games like this do we have to lose. How many games where the defense FOLDS at the end. I don't care how well they play in the 1st quarter. We have to move on. We're likely missing the playoffs now. It makes no sense unless there is a change. Nice that you guys caught on 2 years too late. But at least you're there now. 5 1 7 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<bills4life> Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Why did it take u so long? Just saying. Edited November 27, 2023 by <bills4life> 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Agreed...over for McD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 He’s Dick Jauron with a talented roster. If you’re defending him at this point, I don’t know what to say. McDermott is HORRENDOUS. He’s a bottom 5 coach with an elite QB. He is a loser. He should be gone tomorrow but won’t be. He absolutely can’t be back in 2024. He can’t win. 8 17 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 It is definitely over. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Let's not get hasty. Coach McDermott is a GREAT coach and it would be a major error to get rid of him. Sincerely, Marty Schottenheimer Edited November 27, 2023 by damj 2 10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 The team can’t win big or close games … Whilst that may not entirely be his fault, I think he plays a significant part … I don’t see this ending in a Championship .. Might be time this offseason to move in a different direction 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Most people will not join where I've been for a couple of years. This was a classic big, close, exciting game...that the Bills lose. It's what McDermott does. Get rid of him THIS YEAR and get the rebuild going sooner than later. 6 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 The o got much better when we fired the previous coach who actually had good stats over the entire course of his time here (he needed to be fired tho). We need to do the same again for the DC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Hutz Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I’ve been saying for years that the stats have always been misleading when it comes to the defense under McDermott. They play great when the Bills have a big lead and blow teams out, but if the game is close they almost always seem to fold like a house of cards when it matters most. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I would like to bring Leslie Frazier back as Head coach for the rest of the season as another way of seeing just how bad McDermott is. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobesBLO13 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 One of us, one of us, gooble gobble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Ben knows his stuff: I would like McDermott as a DC. As the head coach he just doesn't have it. 3 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Ben knows his stuff: I would like McDermott as a DC. As the head coach he just doesn't have it. I wouldn't want him as any part of the organization. I wouldn't even take McD as a positional coach. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 The Bills have outscored opponents by 101 points. Only 1 AFC team, Baltimore, has a greater point differential. McDermott is THE biggest problem and it isn’t even close to what’s next. 8 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Success said: How many games like this do we have to lose. How many games where the defense FOLDS at the end. I don't care how well they play in the 1st quarter. We have to move on. We're likely missing the playoffs now. It makes no sense unless there is a change. Can’t believe it took you this long, but we welcome all Fire McClap supporters with open arms. Welcome to the club. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 If you bring McDermott back next season - you're sending a signal that you do not care about having a top tier QB. It's over, man. I've never seen a coach lose so many winnable games. 3 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 A lot of things in this game kind of highlighted the problems with McDermott, and while it got even harder there's still a path for the Bills to make the playoffs. Because as much as this sucked one thing seemed somewhat clear Brady and the offense wasn't a complete fluke they could absolutely go on a run, especially if we're not having as ridiculous Reffed a game as that was. Focusing on McDermott, things that bugged me in this game his reaction to the refs, I get not wanting to make things worse, but when Allen got horse collared and they called a penalty on him and McDermott was talking to them politely, it was like "WTF am I watching here get in there face there being ***** ridiculous!" The defense in the first half was great they shut the Eagles down extremely well. The defense towards the end of the game was the same as always, it's like why do we change what works. I find myself thinking the same thing I think about burning clock it doesn't matter if it's passing or running you have to get first downs and keep the ball to burn clock and prevent D only works if you actually prevent them from moving the ball. If you're defense devolves into being so scared of the big play that it gets carved up inside and they just hurry up and hustle as they dink and dunk down into FG range what's even the point. Then once their down in the redzone and your defense is gassed from being worked down the field hopefully they don't break and give up a TD. 😒 The decision to kneel out the 20 seconds was aggravating, we have Josh Allen they have no timeouts be aggressive take some shots knowing you can't risk turning the ball over and maybe you give yourself a chance to win the game. McDermott was lucky we even won the coin toss and have some more missed calls and a bad route to be angry at, though we still got watch his standard soft prevent defense prevent nothing. It's frustrating because in a lot of ways he's been a very good coach he has made a great culture here and is overall a good defensive coach. But I don't know it's like he's trying too hard to make the right decision instead of just doing it, like he doesn't have that killer instinct for it maybe? Like he has it at times as a DC he can call some great defensive schemes but his feel for when to do things in the game just feels off, like when he'll have us switch to a clock burning offense when we're up by 14 at the start of the second half of a game when we should probably try and make sure to get up by more than 2 scores. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 No. He’s the easy scapegoat. The next man up in the blame game. Our losses are by 6, 5, 4, 6, 2, 3. I don’t think a new HC gets you over that hump. Players are put in a position to win week in and week out. We shouldn’t take that for granted. 1 2 4 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 The national media is coming around too. McDermott is just a slightly better Brandon Staley. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, Success said: How many games like this do we have to lose. How many games where the defense FOLDS at the end. I don't care how well they play in the 1st quarter. We have to move on. We're likely missing the playoffs now. It makes no sense unless there is a change. 31 minutes ago, Success said: How many games like this do we have to lose. How many games where the defense FOLDS at the end. I don't care how well they play in the 1st quarter. We have to move on. We're likely missing the playoffs now. It makes no sense unless there is a change. we will make the playoffs because we haven't suffered enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I’m feeling McD doesn’t go for 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROC INTEL Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, Success said: If you bring McDermott back next season - you're sending a signal that you do not care about having a top tier QB. It's over, man. I've never seen a coach lose so many winnable games. No way he’s back. I give it a 5% chance at this point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydboy12 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 He coaches not to lose yet loses nearly every close game. You’d think at some point that would click with him and he’d change. But it’s his nature. Those guys never win Super Bowls. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 His use of timeouts is beyond amazingly stupid. He helps teams to beat us 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 26 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Ben knows his stuff: I would like McDermott as a DC. As the head coach he just doesn't have it. 🤮 we know what his defense does in big games against good teams...it folds up like a cheap lawn chair 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iverwig Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: The national media is coming around too. McDermott is just a slightly better Brandon Staley. It’s about time a few have been preaching this for a little while now. However, let’s see what the owner says in the end because as far as I’m concerned both Beane and McD need to be gone. Edited November 27, 2023 by Iverwig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROC INTEL Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Random but the timeouts to “get set on defense” piss me off so much. How about be prepared and put the pressure on the offense to call/make a play. More time to think most always benefits the offense. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Allen/McD 0-6 in overtime games. That's coaching. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 32 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He’s Dick Jauron with a talented roster. If you’re defending him at this point, I don’t know what to say. McDermott is HORRENDOUS. He’s a bottom 5 coach with an elite QB. He is a loser. He should be gone tomorrow but won’t be. He absolutely can’t be back in 2024. He can’t win. Exactly right. The talent is there or we wouldn't be in overtime with arguably the best team in the league. McDermott teams don't close. Same story, different game, different year. Coaching is heavily involved in the end of game and we're at a disadvantage with McDermott. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 The BB/McD era could very well be over after this year. It’s probably time for new leadership at this point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, White Linen said: Exactly right. The talent is there or we wouldn't be in overtime with arguably the best team in the league. McDermott teams don't close. Same story, different game, different year. Coaching is heavily involved in the end of game and we're at a disadvantage with McDermott. They’ve outscored their opponents by 101 points. Only Baltimore has a larger point differential in the AFC. It’s on Sean. He absolutely has to go. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Lou Anarumo, watch his interviews that's our guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 He’s already fired 2 OCs, 1 DC and 1 special teams coach. I wonder who is he is going to “passive aggressively “ blame after this loss 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: No. He’s the easy scapegoat. The next man up in the blame game. Our losses are by 6, 5, 4, 6, 2, 3. I don’t think a new HC gets you over that hump. Players are put in a position to win week in and week out. We shouldn’t take that for granted. McDermott’s record in 1 score games the last 3 years is an abomination. What in the hell are you talking about that it isn’t coaching? Is this a troll post? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 After 13 seconds....it's a big ask to get everyone to get fired back up and buy back in again. Even with the Bills bing plus 101 this year...the close game loses just instill the idea that bad things will happen at the end in close games and that the coaches aren't a steadying force, and don't have winning answers in that crucible. That stat about a coach/QB combo that doesn't win A SB after 6 years together NEVER wins one....holds true. It's time to move on because the Bills need a fresh outlook and clean slate. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, JROC INTEL said: No way he’s back. I give it a 5% chance at this point I WOULD LOVE for this to be accurate, but I don't think it is. I think the odds of him returning are MUCH better than that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) I've been a mcD defender for 2 years, im here to grab my pitch fork. Kneeling with 20 seconds, I have my reasons why that was horrible but won't list them all. Soft D from your own 40 in OT But the most EGREGIOUS move by McD? Having von Miller on the feild on 3rd down with the game on the line, the world can see von isn't right yet, to let him on the feild in ot on 3rd down needing to contain hurts. And you put the corpse of von Miller on the feild, hurts walks around Miller and gets the first and drives down the feild to win. Absolutely inexcusable. Edited November 27, 2023 by Norcalbillsfan 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 40 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He’s Dick Jauron with a talented roster. If you’re defending him at this point, I don’t know what to say. McDermott is HORRENDOUS. He’s a bottom 5 coach with an elite QB. He is a loser. He should be gone tomorrow but won’t be. He absolutely can’t be back in 2024. He can’t win. luckily, our owner is a bulldog and will make sure the right thing is done, post-haste!!! 🙄🙄🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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