Dalton Kincaid: Beane's best pick since Allen?

[Freddie's Dead]

I would nominate Cook as a better pick than Reuben.  More versatile as a runner/receiver, more explosive.

[JerseyBills]

Offensively,  yes.

The Kelce comparisons are warranted. Dudes hands and awareness fare A+

[Warriorspikes51]

He hip checked Sauce who took out another Jet and nearly a 3rd on Shakir’s TD

 

want to see him used more on intermediate plays and screens 

[Big Turk]

James Cook is looking better and better also

[WideNine]

1 hour ago, Ralonzo said:

 

There is no chance he has better speed than either Olsen or Graham who were 4.5 guys. I never once though of him as a Shockey or Bavaro comparable. He's a mainly receiving tight end which is fine, but you need to be Kellen Winslow to go to the Hall doing that.

 

40 times really don't correlate well to TE success in the NFL although Olsen and V. Davis had success and good straight line speed.

 

Look at the weaknesses the NFL.com draft site had for that 40 yard slug Kelce:

 

"Only one season of production

Doesn't have blazing speed

Not a tremendously explosive athlete

Doesn't come out of his breaks all that well"

 

Yeah, that guy is going to suck playing TE.

[SCBills]

Beane’s got some strong picks in recent years..

 

Kincaid, Bernard and Cook all look like impact players at the position. 
 

Benford is a legit starting corner. 
 

Shakir in his second year is starting to display high level WR3 ability. 
 

But Kincaid is the answer.  The next generation of elite TE’s after Kelce steps aside will include Dalton Kincaid. 
 

 

Edited November 20, 2023 by SCBills

[Bruffalo]

9 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

James Cook is looking better and better also

Every game there’s more than a few plays where I think he’s gonna break out and get a big TD.

 

It’s impressive considering all season he’s had horribly limited snaps thanks to Donkey Dorsey 

[RyanC883]

2 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

Yup he is going to eventually be the # 1 guy on this roster as Diggs ages out. They need to get some other guys around him tho in the future. This team does need a couple young WRs to create a new core for the future and this next draft is the year to do it 

 

hopefully we can get a future number 1 WR next draft by trading up, or due to draft being loaded 

[Big Turk]

2 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

 

There is no chance he has better speed than either Olsen or Graham who were 4.5 guys. I never once though of him as a Shockey or Bavaro comparable. He's a mainly receiving tight end which is fine, but you need to be Kellen Winslow to go to the Hall doing that.

 

Kelce ran a 4.61...you don't need to be a burner. Kincaid plays faster than his 40 time

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

He’s an absolute baller. Josh and he could do some damage 

[Big Turk]

6 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

Every game there’s more than a few plays where I think he’s gonna break out and get a big TD.

 

It’s impressive considering all season he’s had horribly limited snaps thanks to Donkey Dorsey 

 

And yet is is still 2nd in the NFL in rushing yards..

[Bruffalo]

2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

And yet is is still 2nd in the NFL in rushing yards..

Is that true? I had no idea. That’s a very quiet #2 then, I guess it is the lack of touchdowns that’s keeping it quiet in the media. 

[ProcessImproverMan]

Kincaid to me is our Kittle. Kittle always struck me as speedier than Kelce and more of a smooth route runner. Kincaid has more of that in his game and hardly ever drops passes as well. Best set of hands on the team imo.

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

Is that true? I had no idea. That’s a very quiet #2 then, I guess it is the lack of touchdowns that’s keeping it quiet in the media. 

 

Yup..McCaffery leads the NFL with like 747 or something and Cook is 2nd with 688 yards and a sparkling 5.0 YPC average.

[WideNine]

1 minute ago, ProcessImproverMan said:

Kincaid to me is our Kittle. Kittle always struck me as speedier than Kelce and more of a smooth route runner. Kincaid has more of that in his game and hardly ever drops passes as well. Best set of hands on the team imo.

 

If the NFL was just about finding track stars it would be easy.

 

What you want in your pass-catching TE is the size mismatch of course, but also great balance and body control, route running, ability to come in and out of their breaks smoothly, great catch radius with good hands, and the ability to read and exploit coverages.

 

There are a lot of reasons to get excited about this kid - trying to tap the brakes myself, but he looks like the real thing.

 

 

[Mark Vader]

No love for Greg Rousseau?

 

He's looking like a damn good player on defense.

[Nelius]

2 hours ago, Airseven said:

He’s definitely flashing a little sooner than I thought he would. Frustrating it came when Knox went down.

How exactly is that frustrating? I know it’s your thing to drop little doom nuggets about everything, but this seems like a particularly weird stretch.

 

I’m also sure you’ve posted many things about Knox that, unsurprisingly, completely contradicts this.

[Nephilim17]

I love Kincaid and think he's very close to a lock for becoming a top-5 TE, and could be better than that.

but... the way Oliver's been playing this year — and it took him a while to play this great this consistently — he could challenge for the title of Beane's best pick besides Allen.

Edited November 20, 2023 by Nephilim17

[NewEra]

He will be imo.

 

any word on him getting hurt?  He had the 1 catch for 0 yards on that terrible play that got him destroyed. That hit hurt, not doubt.  I don’t recall seeing him out there very much after that.  That was his last target of the game

Edited November 20, 2023 by NewEra

[Buffalo716]

57 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Kelce ran a 4.61...you don't need to be a burner. Kincaid plays faster than his 40 time

Kincaid never ran a 40 at the combine 

[LEBills]

1 hour ago, Bruffalo said:

Is that true? I had no idea. That’s a very quiet #2 then, I guess it is the lack of touchdowns that’s keeping it quiet in the media. 

it’s a little skewed because Cook has played one more game than most since most teams have had their bye week by this point. But still Cook has been a very good runner for us.

[Warcodered]

22 minutes ago, NewEra said:

He will be imo.

 

any word on him getting hurt?  He had the 1 catch for 0 yards on that terrible play that got him destroyed. That hit hurt, not doubt.  I don’t recall seeing him out there very much after that.  That was his last target of the game

Kincaid? When was this because at a certain point we just started ramming it down their throat on the ground. Also he had some huge blocks downfield like on Shakir's TD.

[BruceVilanch]

2 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

Zach Ertz

 

LET'S RESTART THE THREAD!

[Sherlock Holmes]

3 hours ago, Success said:

He gets separation, has great hands, and very good YAC.  Mismatch for opposing D's, and when Knox comes back will be even more of a threat.

 

I see a guy w/ potential to be like Kelce.  Not AS good, since Kelce is the GOAT or close to it - but the same kind of 24x7 outlet for Allen.

 

Thoughts?

 

Yes, better than Kelce

[Mikie2times]

8 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

Yes, better than Kelce

[Special K]

4 hours ago, Success said:

He gets separation, has great hands, and very good YAC.  Mismatch for opposing D's, and when Knox comes back will be even more of a threat.

 

I see a guy w/ potential to be like Kelce.  Not AS good, since Kelce is the GOAT or close to it - but the same kind of 24x7 outlet for Allen.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

[NewEra]

5 hours ago, Warcodered said:

Kincaid? When was this because at a certain point we just started ramming it down their throat on the ground. Also he had some huge blocks downfield like on Shakir's TD.

I was off on the time line-  just makes my bet beat even worse.  12:53 of the 2nd qtr- -1 yard catch. He got blasted. He had 42 yards at that point and was his 5th catch of the day.  He had one more after that for 4 yards.  

[Whkfc]

9 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

 

There is no chance he has better speed than either Olsen or Graham who were 4.5 guys. I never once though of him as a Shockey or Bavaro comparable. He's a mainly receiving tight end which is fine, but you need to be Kellen Winslow to go to the Hall doing that.

 

9 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

 

There is no chance he has better speed than either Olsen or Graham who were 4.5 guys. I never once though of him as a Shockey or Bavaro comparable. He's a mainly receiving tight end which is fine, but you need to be Kellen Winslow to go to the Hall doing that.

Olson ran a 4.75 coming out Kincaid ran a 4.71 Graham ran a 4.55. I don't think the difference is really that big. Kelce ran a 4.71 as well.

[Gunsgoodtime]

8 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Look at Kincaid follow this and block Sauce at the end

 

 

 

100% effort.  That's exactly what you want to see.  We have too many videos of some of our players that show the exact opposite, I won't name players.  Kincaid has been my last hope the Bills can pull off some kind of miracle.  He has not disappointed.  Im not mad at him for the fumble last week, that game should have never depended on that and he helped us do what little we could do.  Possibly my favorite Beane pick behind Allen.

[Pete]

9 hours ago, TwistofFate said:

Dawson Knox? 

Another solid draft selection for Beane.  Great value in 3rd round

[Whkfc]

1 minute ago, Pete said:

Another solid draft selection for Beane.  Great value in 3rd round

 

Dawson Drops?

7 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

No love for Greg Rousseau?

 

He's looking like a damn good player on defense.

I think he disappears too much and for too long of stretches. Good player he needs to find consistency. 

[Pete]

4 minutes ago, Whkfc said:

 

Dawson Drops?

I would like to see you catch a football with a broken wrist.  I broke my wrist, and know how amazingly difficult that might be.

Knox is a great blocker, and has been helping Brown all season.  And Knox has been a great Bill and teammate.

 

I cheer for the Bills, and I am not a hater.  Dawson Knox is not what was wrong with this team during our funk

 

Edited November 20, 2023 by Pete

[Bleed Bills Blue]

Kincaid picks up the 1-26-3 split to spring Shakir!

[Gunsgoodtime]

39 minutes ago, Pete said:

Another solid draft selection for Beane.  Great value in 3rd round

Terrible value with the over paid contract though

[Since1981]

The Kincaid block spin move…FINALLY a player self aware that he need only “get in the way” far down field and it’s a non penalty block !

[No_Matter_What]

9 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Look at Kincaid follow this and block Sauce at the end

 

 

 

 

8 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

He hip checked Sauce who took out another Jet and nearly a 3rd on Shakir’s TD

 

want to see him used more on intermediate plays and screens 

Maybe this is a stupid question, but wasn't that a risky play? Wasn't it close to being block in the back? I don't know the exact rule but I guess I've seen similar situations called.

[Whkfc]

51 minutes ago, Pete said:

I would like to see you catch a football with a broken wrist.  I broke my wrist, and know how amazingly difficult that might be.

Knox is a great blocker, and has been helping Brown all season.  And Knox has been a great Bill and teammate.

 

I cheer for the Bills, and I am not a hater.  Dawson Knox is not what was wrong with this team during our funk

 

Dawson's drops go beyond his wrist. And I don't get paid 12 million a year to make catches regardless of my wrist. He had 1 good season has underperformed otherwise him and Davis dropping  balls and killing drives were major parts of the funk we were in. Don't question my Fandom I've put my money where my mouth is I've had season tickets and seen this team all over the country. Just cause I'm a fan doesn't mean I can't critique the teams shortcomings. I don't have to blindly be a rah rah guy.

[LewPort71]

11 hours ago, scuba guy said:

 

 

FYI his blocking has come alone great.

The td to Shakir he took out 3 defenders and the run to the left he took out 2 people

 

That block was A+++. And he's just gonna get better over time. 

[Mr. WEO]

11 hours ago, Success said:

He gets separation, has great hands, and very good YAC.  Mismatch for opposing D's, and when Knox comes back will be even more of a threat.

 

I see a guy w/ potential to be like Kelce.  Not AS good, since Kelce is the GOAT or close to it - but the same kind of 24x7 outlet for Allen.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

He's nothing like Kelce at this point because that's not how he's used.  Almost every catch is a couple yards from Allen, uncovered. He had 6 catches for 47 yards last night. YBC is 4.3 yards, YAC is 4.3 yards.

 

They need to do something else with this kid other than short gain 3 step outs.  Time to send him downfield or to roam the middle like Kelce.

[RichRiderBills]

He's now eclipsed Sam Laporta w 51 grabs. On pace for one of the best seasons in NFL history for a rookie TE. 

Edited November 20, 2023 by RichRiderBills