Bills!Win! Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 2 hours ago, beebe said: Says it was one of the weakest taunting calls he's ever seen. Linked to clip: 1:33:34 mark. What are you doing listening to the podcast of the enemy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Scott7975 said: This. To the letter of the rule it was a penalty. Just like that throw they called intentional grounding when really the receiver just cut off his route. There are far worse things like the facemask not called or the sliding tripping tackle not called. Or in another game the guy taking his helmet off and hitting someone with it not called. This taunting rule is just stupid. Even stupider Josh could have gotten ejected for another similar act. The NFL rules just don't make sense. Much like some of their fines don't make sense. What letter of the rule are you talking about? There is a subjective element to determining intent. You can finger point and not be called, the OL does it all the time presnap, Players do it after first downs. So no, it's not the letter, but what Josh did has been called because intent is assumed You know when intent is also assumed is when the ball carrier is taken down by someone's legs. It's generally assumed if the defender takes down the ball carrier with his legs there was intentional tripping. Huge non-call. It's 15 yards and a 1st down, the Bills ,safely in FG range, with time on the clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 I cannot possibly imagine that a defensive player gives a rats arse if Josh points at him while running into the end zone. Just another thing that Roger Goodell has gotten ALL WRONG in his version of the modern NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 I’m sure it’s taunting. But what I want to know is why is tyrek hill not called for the peace sign when he flashes it at players as he runs by them into the end zone? The nfl is losing credibility! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 49 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: What letter of the rule are you talking about? There is a subjective element to determining intent. You can finger point and not be called, the OL does it all the time presnap, Players do it after first downs. So no, it's not the letter, but what Josh did has been called because intent is assumed You know when intent is also assumed is when the ball carrier is taken down by someone's legs. It's generally assumed if the defender takes down the ball carrier with his legs there was intentional tripping. Huge non-call. It's 15 yards and a 1st down, the Bills ,safely in FG range, with time on the clock. They call stuff when they feel like it. The rule is that if you do something in the face of the opponent then its taunting. Such as look and point at the defender or spiking the ball in the defenders face or pointing first down to the defenders face. Thats why you usually see someone get a first down and then move away from the defenders before they do their first down point or spike ball or whatever. You are right that it isnt always called and they call it when they feel like it just like all other penalties. The penalty is also stupid af but it is the rule. 2 minutes ago, 4th&long said: I’m sure it’s taunting. But what I want to know is why is tyrek hill not called for the peace sign when he flashes it at players as he runs by them into the end zone? The nfl is losing credibility! He has been called for it before. They just pick and choose when they feel like calling it. Now he has gloves that are painted red two finger peace sign so he just puts his whole hand up as a mockery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag20 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 hours ago, GoBills808 said: same, ive been watching their podcast for a while now and they seem like good dudes used to despise T Kelce and now i kind of like him Agreed, this is is nice take from Kelce. In acknowledgement I’m gonna go listen to some T Swift with my 11 year old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Kelce is growing on me His commercials are funny too, and he was great on SNL. Seems like a cool dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Airseven said: The point was cringy. Big pot meet kettle energy right here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Success said: Kelce is growing on me His commercials are funny too, and he was great on SNL. Seems like a cool dude. The Kelce brothers are just good dudes. It's annoying how good Travis is when he's playing your team, but that doesn't make him a bad guy. 1 minute ago, Nelius said: Big pot meet kettle energy right here. Big pot just won an election here in Ohio, and I'm all for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Ya Digg? said: So why does Tyreek never get called for his peace sign he constantly flashes? Exactly....that's 100x more taunting than Josh's stupid little point. This league is so messed up in so many ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Scott7975 said: This. To the letter of the rule it was a penalty. Just like that throw they called intentional grounding when really the receiver just cut off his route. There are far worse things like the facemask not called or the sliding tripping tackle not called. Or in another game the guy taking his helmet off and hitting someone with it not called. This taunting rule is just stupid. Even stupider Josh could have gotten ejected for another similar act. The NFL rules just don't make sense. Much like some of their fines don't make sense. Actually, despite what the idiot rules expert on TV said, that was not intentional grounding. Here is the rule. RULE SUMMARY VIEW OFFICIAL RULE INTENTIONAL GROUNDING It is a foul for intentional grounding if a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage because of pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion. A realistic chance of completion is defined as a pass that is thrown in the direction of and lands in the vicinity of an originally eligible receiver. I highlighted the important part. Allen was not about to be sacked. It was a clear miscommunication. NFL officials are bad and getting worse. Why the NFL, a $10 billion/year industry depends on part time, old, bad officials accountable to no one is beyond me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Actually, despite what the idiot rules expert on TV said, that was not intentional grounding. Here is the rule. RULE SUMMARY VIEW OFFICIAL RULE INTENTIONAL GROUNDING It is a foul for intentional grounding if a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage because of pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion. A realistic chance of completion is defined as a pass that is thrown in the direction of and lands in the vicinity of an originally eligible receiver. I highlighted the important part. Allen was not about to be sacked. It was a clear miscommunication. NFL officials are bad and getting worse. Why the NFL, a $10 billion/year industry depends on part time, old, bad officials accountable to no one is beyond me. My favorite part was when the rules analyst said 'intent's got nothing to do with it!' right after the screen flashed the words INTENTIONAL GROUNDING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Actually, despite what the idiot rules expert on TV said, that was not intentional grounding. Here is the rule. RULE SUMMARY VIEW OFFICIAL RULE INTENTIONAL GROUNDING It is a foul for intentional grounding if a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage because of pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion. A realistic chance of completion is defined as a pass that is thrown in the direction of and lands in the vicinity of an originally eligible receiver. I highlighted the important part. Allen was not about to be sacked. It was a clear miscommunication. NFL officials are bad and getting worse. Why the NFL, a $10 billion/year industry depends on part time, old, bad officials accountable to no one is beyond me. Yeah I know it wasnt intentional grounding. I lumped them together my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 hours ago, GoBills808 said: in case anyone was wondering what im talking about re:hubbard hit and why Allen likely reacted like that this is him going for Allen's knees about 4seconds after he released the pass to Diggs Best/worst part of this is the ref looking at it all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Special K said: Not as bad a penalty as the intentional grounding penalty....that one cost the Bills a chance at 3 points. i was just thinking that, absolutely horrendous call along with the Settle pulling the QB on himself penalty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, JPL7 said: How come Tyreek Hill doesn’t get called for his peace sign thing???? He does at times. He also gets fined. Edited November 9, 2023 by Not at the table Karlos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Taylor Swift wants Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Meyer K12 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 All of the stupid ass endzone celebrations they allow, and they are stupid, and the refs flag JA for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lane Meyer K12 said: All of the stupid ass endzone celebrations they allow, and they are stupid, and the refs flag JA for that. it’s the gap between celebrating with your teammates vs towards an opponent. It’s been a point of emphasis for a few years. I think back in 2021(?) it was a pretty heavy topic with a ton of flags for guys spinning the ball towards opponents, flexing while facing the opponents sideline and the tyreek situation. The simplest is go be happy for your accomplishments without addressing the guys on the other side. that Said, they created a monster with those 20 player 80 yard dashes to the camera 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 If Travis Swift says so, it must be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 14 hours ago, GoBills808 said: its def always a penalty, you got to keep your head but in his defense im pretty sure he was reacting to the hit he took late and low from Hubbard Duh what? tyreek never gets a taunt and he literally looks behind him puts up dueces lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 32 minutes ago, Drew21PA said: Duh what? tyreek never gets a taunt and he literally looks behind him puts up dueces lol I looked it up. Tyreek has had taunting called on him three times in his 7.5-year career. Twice in 2018 and once this year. That's not never, but it is close to never. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 15 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: It’s stupid that it’s a penalty but it’s a penalty.. boring Sorry axx NFL penality 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 18 hours ago, Special K said: Not as bad a penalty as the intentional grounding penalty....that one cost the Bills a chance at 3 points. Intentional grounding must be, er, you know, intentional. It was obvious that there was just a mis communication between QB and WR. Also, the QB has to be under duress or worried about a sack. If he is not under duress he can ground it, ala spiking the ball to stop the clock. All in all, a bad call that actually effected the final score. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 The Intentional Grounding call was a freakin' joke too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Drew21PA said: Duh what? tyreek never gets a taunt and he literally looks behind him puts up dueces lol He does get penalties for that now. He didn't used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 I change my mind about Travis Kelce about as frequently as this board changes its mind about Sean McDermott. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 43 minutes ago, MPL said: I change my mind about Travis Kelce about as frequently as this board changes its mind about Sean McDermott. I currently like the hell out of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, RiotAct said: 48 minutes ago, MPL said: I change my mind about Travis Kelce about as frequently as this board changes its mind about Sean McDermott. I currently like the hell out of him Ugh. Same. Wait... we talking about Kelce or McDermott? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 4 hours ago, MPL said: Ugh. Same. Wait... we talking about Kelce or McDermott? Kelce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Somewhat ironic hearing this from Kelce considering the Chiefs/Mahomes would never had a call like that go against them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Someone pointed out to me that the taunting call was barely a top 5 bad call for the game to go against the Bills, the missed slide tackle, the missed facemask in end zone, the fake roughing the passer, the intentional grounding were all much worse. NFL officiating is so bad and unpredictable that at this point it is on me for expecting better 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 27 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Someone pointed out to me that the taunting call was barely a top 5 bad call for the game to go against the Bills, the missed slide tackle, the missed facemask in end zone, the fake roughing the passer, the intentional grounding were all much worse. NFL officiating is so bad and unpredictable that at this point it is on me for expecting better Slide tackle was crazy Bengals are dirty af 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: Someone pointed out to me that the taunting call was barely a top 5 bad call for the game to go against the Bills, the missed slide tackle, the missed facemask in end zone, the fake roughing the passer, the intentional grounding were all much worse. NFL officiating is so bad and unpredictable that at this point it is on me for expecting better It just felt early like Kemp had it in for the Bills. The Settle roughing was a joke. The intentional grounding was egregiously bad considering Josh was NOT under duress. Even Collinsworth said as much. We don't have a healthy squad. We gotta get calls or this season will be over real soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) On 11/8/2023 at 6:12 PM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Please tell me you did this on purpose Did what, type with my thumb or dictate and not give a ***** how an arrogant clowns name gets altered by spell check? Please tell me why I should care or waste my time fixing Siri on a message board? Edited November 10, 2023 by Meatloaf63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 19 hours ago, TampaBillsJunkie said: The Intentional Grounding call was a freakin' joke too. As was the roughing the passer on Settle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) On 11/8/2023 at 6:34 PM, 0017 said: When they called it, I thought it would take away the TD, but they didn’t and in the end it only cost us about 7 yards, not a big deal. While the penalty itself may not have been a big deal, what COULD have been a big deal was the fact that one more such penalty would have led to Josh being ejected from the game. I have to wonder if this may have subconsciously made him play more timidly? Also, I would imagine that the Bengal defenders were probably trying to do everything they could to provoke him throughout the rest of the game. Edited November 10, 2023 by 2003Contenders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 I don't think that I've heard anyone say the word whack since these guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 "Personal foul. That grown man talked crap to another grown man in a competitive sport. 15 yards enforced on the kickoff" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: "Personal foul. That grown man talked crap to another grown man in a competitive sport. 15 yards enforced on the kickoff" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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