Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Funny how people have come around on this. Beginning of 2023 it was outlandish to suggest that Allen could be working harder on his physical fitness, to Allen himself saying he needs to train harder and become more disciplined at 2023 Training Camp, to now 9 games in fans saying he is slowing down. I don't think he's slowing down. I think he doesn't run as much - designed or scramble - and his coaches are all over him to not run - let alone the constant media saying he is going to hurt himself and become Newton. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) He's not a premature XXXXXXXXXX like he was when he was young. Can hold off now and this really satisfies McDermott to no end. Sean was always critical of Josh not being patient enough and just going off too soon in the past. Now he loves it. Edited November 7, 2023 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 25 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: So this week we've learned that Josh Allen is: Slowing down Not going through his progressions Seems a bit depressed Misses his ex Still isn't studying film Only wanted Dorsey because he's his buddy Has an allergy to pistachio's (talk about bad luck) Has lost his passion for the game I may have missed a few. Just how many ladders did this guy walk under in the offseason? Funny how all the evidence contradicts the idea that Allen is the problem here. People seem to want to create all sorts of far fetched & bizarre theories centered on Allen as to why the Bills offense struggles at times. Of course if they simply looked at the stats and watched the games Allen is the LEAST of our problems. If I had to pick just a few: * Bad O line. Hey I'm going by what the experts are saying and what my eyes are telling me and this O line is below average, at best. * Lack of play makers not named Diggs. Sure Kincaid is showing signs of becoming an elite play making TE but he's not there yet which leaves only Diggs. Look at the other legit SB contenders and all but KC have multiple elite play makers and KC has a much better O line and offensive coaching then the Bills. And for the record Allen & Mahomes are having an almost identical year in production & TO's. * Defense dominates the Bills coaching DNA. Where every other serious SB contender has directed the lions share of resources to surround their stud QB with the best possible talent McD/Bean have gone in the other direction. McD's idea of "complimentary" football is the offense sacrificing what works for it to help the D out. This is a patently absurd approach which could only lead to a schizophrenic O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aimee75 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, RobbRiddick said: So this week we've learned that Josh Allen is: Slowing down Not going through his progressions Seems a bit depressed Misses his ex Still isn't studying film Only wanted Dorsey because he's his buddy Has an allergy to pistachio's (talk about bad luck) Has lost his passion for the game I may have missed a few. Just how many ladders did this guy walk under in the offseason? Wait, can you guide me to the pistachio allergy discussion? I missed that one!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Aimee75 said: Wait, can you guide me to the pistachio allergy discussion? I missed that one!! I may have inserted that so I could see who is paying attention 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, RobbRiddick said: I may have inserted that so I could see who is paying attention He does want to plant 1,000 acres of Pistachio trees on his father's farm. Kind of a strange desire for a guy that has "gone Hollywood." https://www.on3.com/pro/news/josh-allen-has-plans-to-grow-1000-acres-of-pistachios-for-second-income-stream/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, FrenchConnection said: Joe Burrow is only 198 days younger than Josh and gets a serious injury every year. Is their window closing? I was joking-- My Cousin Vinny reference. Allen has tons of football left in him at 27. Look at Brady and Rodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Casey D said: I was joking-- My Cousin Vinny reference. Allen has tons of football left in him at 27. Look at Brady and Rodgers. Sorry. Everyone is a little testy around here this week. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Maybe because he's more careful running this year (taking slides, etc.) he's not going full throttle. Not a big worry right now, I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Cut him and send a message. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 It’s that illegitimate baby he’s carrying around, didn’t you know? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 His shoulder is sore and he is running in a way to protect it. Plain and simple 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I blame Hailee. Yes you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, RobbRiddick said: So this week we've learned that Josh Allen is: Slowing down Not going through his progressions Seems a bit depressed Misses his ex Still isn't studying film Only wanted Dorsey because he's his buddy Has an allergy to pistachio's (talk about bad luck) Has lost his passion for the game I may have missed a few. Just how many ladders did this guy walk under in the offseason? Madden was all it took. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) His first few years lineman would rush him aggressively and almost pass his depth in the pocket. Teams would not have a spy and it would open the center of the line like the red sea. He would just gash teams. Teams are not rushing him like that anymore. They almost always have a LB waiting for him. He needs to be much more tactical about how he is rushing. I still think he moves just fine. That TD he had against Tampa Bay he turned it on. Edited November 7, 2023 by Mikie2times 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Bermuda Triangle said: It’s the Madden Curse Oh crap, I forgot about that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I ahve thought he looked slower on several occasions. He has been caught from behind a few times by Dlinemen who never would have touched him in previous years. Although it likely has more to do with the fact that he is less decisive when running and defenses are spying him so that he can't hurt them scrambling. When he took off against Tampa he was decisive and looked like the same guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 It does seem like he bulked up in the off season. Looks heavier, but I'm not certain that is his overall issue on the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 He took off a couple times against Cincinnati and on those particular runs i thought he looked fast. What i don’t like is the spaced out look on his face on the sidelines. Thats different from previous years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 hours ago, RobbRiddick said: Has an allergy to pistachio's (talk about bad luck) Wait I missed this. Where did this info come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said: I agree. I also don’t think he has as much zip on his ball anymore. (I know, the announcers talked about him bruising hands on one crosser to Kincaide) He has decidedly been arching balls he use to throw on a rope , since the beginning of the season. Maybe it’s on purpose but I’m suspecting maybe not. This league takes a toll. His throw at the end of the Jags game (that Diggs dropped) was probably the hardest thrown, most absurd pass I’ve ever seen. Edited November 7, 2023 by SCBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 hours ago, RobbRiddick said: So this week we've learned that Josh Allen is: Slowing down Not going through his progressions Seems a bit depressed Misses his ex Still isn't studying film Only wanted Dorsey because he's his buddy Has an allergy to pistachio's (talk about bad luck) Has lost his passion for the game I may have missed a few. Just how many ladders did this guy walk under in the offseason? He orders Ranch when he gets his Wings. SMH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 29 minutes ago, SCBills said: His throw at the end of the Jags game (that Diggs dropped) was probably the hardest thrown, most absurd pass I’ve ever seen. that was a 50 yard rope with no air under it whatsoever 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I thank you for the laugh, the world needs more humor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 This is a fundamentally flawed offense, of course and obviously, to almost all who have payed attention. One of the problems going forward is that they will not be able to make good personnel evaluations if Dorsey finishes the year. When you have these kind of fundamental problems your eyes WILL deceive you, as things are not as they should be--almost everyone will look worse and start taking on new flaws. Allen is dejected, almost devastated, that this is happening and it shows in his demeanor and game. Do we really know what we actually have with Gabe Davis?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, dorquemada said: Slow Fat Broken Josh Allen is not the problem. Short bus Dorsey is. Josh and Dorsey both carry very significant amounts of the blame. 1 hour ago, Mister Defense said: This is a fundamentally flawed offense, of course and obviously, to almost all who have payed attention. One of the problems going forward is that they will not be able to make good personnel evaluations if Dorsey finishes the year. When you have these kind of fundamental problems your eyes WILL deceive you, as things are not as they should be--almost everyone will look worse and start taking on new flaws. Allen is dejected, almost devastated, that this is happening and it shows in his demeanor and game. Do we really know what we actually have with Gabe Davis?? I think we do know. He's a guy with strengths and weaknesses we're all pretty aware of. He'll never be a #1. He's a solid but not exceptional 2, and he blocks really well, which is often discounted. He doesn't appear to be sudden enough to do much damage short but does well in the deep and intermediate range. Edited November 8, 2023 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 It does seem the aggression in Allen’s game has tapered off. Multitude of possible reasons: coaching, scheme, injuries, weight, confidence, defensive adjustments, etc. The problem is that Allen no longer dominates physically and the mental part of the game isn’t compensating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaDigital Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 give a kid whos been rejected his entire life fame, fortune, and 304's and this is the outcome. DISTRACTION. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufluv Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 He may have slowed down a little , but still setting speed records… https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-bills-josh-allen-next-gen-stats-record-17-mph-blame 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkKelso'sHelmet Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Ken Dorsey ruined Cam Newton's career, and now he's ruining Josh Allen's. Dorsey is a QB killer, a cancer on this organization. Get a legitimate OC with a legitimate experience as a coordinator—not your buddy from the Carolina days. Josh has all the physical and mental attributes. It has to be coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Defenses have learned how to contain him in the pocket. Other than poorly coached defenses like the Bucs, teams are not giving him free lanes to run through. I think the whole "Allen needs to run more" thing is way overblown. The angles to scramble away just aren't there anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 you better hope your eyes are decieving you, cuz we ridin that horse for many years to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Allen can’t be coached because what coach has ever coached someone with his skill set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 9 hours ago, Bad Things Man said: Is it just me or does Josh look a lot slower running the ball. Back in his rookie or second year some of his runs were clocked in the 20 mph range and he was making d-backs and LBs look silly running by them. Seems like now when he finally does run he has trouble beating defensive line. Anyone else notice this? You want your quarterback trucking defensive linemen? Do you want your quarterback to see the field by his 30th birthday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 6 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Josh and Dorsey both carry very significant amounts of the blame. I think we do know. He's a guy with strengths and weaknesses we're all pretty aware of. He'll never be a #1. He's a solid but not exceptional 2, and he blocks really well, which is often discounted. He doesn't appear to be sudden enough to do much damage short but does well in the deep and intermediate range. I agree. You would think maybe they would call plays for him that appeal to his strengths, in the intermediate range (which may open and facilitate more of the deeper routes as well)), But this OC does not seem to care or know how to do things like this, with one player after another... Beyond all of his other fundamental flaws, one that in itself means he will not be able to win in this league or even on most college teams as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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