Bad Things Man Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Is it just me or does Josh look a lot slower running the ball. Back in his rookie or second year some of his runs were clocked in the 20 mph range and he was making d-backs and LBs look silly running by them. Seems like now when he finally does run he has trouble beating defensive line. Anyone else notice this? 1 1 2 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Kind of hard to gauge. He has had very few runs in open space this season. I think he had 1 designed run against Cincy, and it was through a crowd, so it was more picking his spots than accelerating. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) So this week we've learned that Josh Allen is: Slowing down Not going through his progressions Seems a bit depressed Misses his ex Still isn't studying film Only wanted Dorsey because he's his buddy Has an allergy to pistachio's (talk about bad luck) Has lost his passion for the game I may have missed a few. Just how many ladders did this guy walk under in the offseason? Edited November 7, 2023 by RobbRiddick 3 1 1 27 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I don’t see that as much as seeing him run with less abandon when he does run now. I think he looks for places to bail now, whereas before it was always full steam ahead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bad Things Man said: Is it just me or does Josh look a lot slower running the ball. Back in his rookie or second year some of his runs were clocked in the 20 mph range and he was making d-backs and LBs look silly running by them. Seems like now when he finally does run he has trouble beating defensive line. Anyone else notice this? No way to really know for sure unless you have some clocked runs from this year too to compare. Personally I highly doubt his straight line speed and acceleration has decreased significantly in 2 or 3 years if we assume his playing weight as constant over that period of time. It’s more likely what you’re seeing with regard to him looking slower getting around the edge of the D line is Allen keeping his head up and looking downfield for a passing option for a longer period of time, instead of just accelerating and taking off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 1 13 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: So this week we've learned that Josh Allen is: Slowing down Not going through his progressions Seems a bit depressed Misses his ex Still isn't studying film Only wanted Dorsey because he's his buddy Has an allergy to pistachio's (talk about bad luck) Has lost his passion for the game I may have missed a few. Just how many ladders did this guy walk under in the offseason? I got a few more: Can't read a defense pre-snap Should be traded 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I agree. I also don’t think he has as much zip on his ball anymore. (I know, the announcers talked about him bruising hands on one crosser to Kincaide) He has decidedly been arching balls he use to throw on a rope , since the beginning of the season. Maybe it’s on purpose but I’m suspecting maybe not. This league takes a toll. 1 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 It's because he's a fat golfer now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoName Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, Bad Things Man said: Is it just me or does Josh look a lot slower running the ball. Back in his rookie or second year some of his runs were clocked in the 20 mph range and he was making d-backs and LBs look silly running by them. Seems like now when he finally does run he has trouble beating defensive line. Anyone else notice this? Josh is definitely not the main reason for the offensive woes. That said, I do think he is a tad slower compared to past years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Are you suggesting that Josh does not participate in no nut november? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: I agree. I also don’t think he has as much zip on his ball anymore. (I know, the announcers talked about him bruising hands on one crosser to Kincaide) He has decidedly been arching balls he use to throw on a rope , since the beginning of the season. Maybe it’s on purpose but I’m suspecting maybe not. This league takes a toll. They mentioned during the game how Kincaid dropped a ball because it was thrown so hard and how Gabe Davis gets bruised hands because of Josh’s throws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Man Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) "Josh is definitely not the main reason for the offensive woes. That said, I do think he is a tad slower compared to past years." Totally agree, just something I noticed. Edited November 7, 2023 by Bad Things Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, MPL said: Are you suggesting that Josh does not participate in no nut november? That's probably the stupidest trend I've ever heard 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: So this week we've learned that Josh Allen is: Slowing down Not going through his progressions Seems a bit depressed Misses his ex Still isn't studying film Only wanted Dorsey because he's his buddy Has an allergy to pistachio's (talk about bad luck) Has lost his passion for the game I may have missed a few. Just how many ladders did this guy walk under in the offseason? It’s the Madden Curse 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, QB Bills said: It's because he's a fat golfer now. gotta be the chicken wings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 One of the fastest straight line runs I’ve ever from Allen was against Miami in last year’s playoff game which wasn’t too long ago… I haven’t seen any runs like that yet this season, but he’s also avoiding that part of his game more than ever this season unless he absolutely NEEDS to do it, which is why we started to see it in the 4th quarter against Cinci and, if anything, I thought he made some nifty moves… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Nah, he’s just had a lot less runs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Clearly he's washed up at 26 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: 5 minutes ago, MPL said: Are you suggesting that Josh does not participate in no nut november? That's probably the stupidest trend I've ever heard yeah, it's nuts. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bad Things Man said: "Josh is definitely not the main reason for the offensive woes. That said, I do think he is a tad slower compared to past years." Totally agree, just something I noticed. He’s like 27 not 37 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Running slower, thinking slower, I heard his car insurance rep even down graded him. Where will it 🔚🙄 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) I don't think he's slowing down per se, but, as others have pointed out, he's moving a bit slower for 2 reasons: 1) He's trying to keep his eyes downfield to look for a potential throw 2) He's gauging where the defenders are so that he can time a slide or run out of bounds, to avoid a big hit. In the past, he would just go full steam ahead and try to run over whoever or whatever might be in the way. I'm OK with both of these, even if it slows him down a bit. That said, if he sees an opening, he should take it. He's a fantastic runner and it's part of his game. He just needs to avoid the big hits. Yes, he can deliver them and yes, he's tough and can take a lot of them, but he needs to keep himself as healthy as he can. If that means getting 18 yards instead of 20, so be it. I'd, of course, make an exception where the game is on the line. If it's 4th down in the 4th quarter of a close game, he has to do whatever it takes to get past the sticks. It's all about situational awareness. Edited November 7, 2023 by msw2112 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: They mentioned during the game how Kincaid dropped a ball because it was thrown so hard and how Gabe Davis gets bruised hands because of Josh’s throws Ugh, I mentioned it right in my comment🙄 He still doesn’t seem , to me, to have the same effortless drive on the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 He's 27. His biological clock, and the Bills window of opportunity are-- stomp stomp stomp-- ticking. 😁 5 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: Clearly he's washed up at 26 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Cognitively he is definitely slower. And its hard to quantify how much is coaching and how much is his own brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Oh good lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkirk Donski Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I think that Wgr caller was right…Time to draft a new qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 29 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: So this week we've learned that Josh Allen is: Slowing down Not going through his progressions Seems a bit depressed Misses his ex Still isn't studying film Only wanted Dorsey because he's his buddy Has an allergy to pistachio's (talk about bad luck) Has lost his passion for the game I may have missed a few. Just how many ladders did this guy walk under in the offseason? The Madden curse...you forgot the Madden curse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Casey D said: He's 27. His biological clock, and the Bills window of opportunity are-- stomp stomp stomp-- ticking. 😁 Joe Burrow is only 198 days younger than Josh and gets a serious injury every year. Is their window closing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: Joe Burrow is only 198 days younger than Josh and gets a serious injury every year. Is their window closing? Must be we need new windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 He's gone from young man to nearly 30, everything he eats now goes straight to his belly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 41 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: So this week we've learned that Josh Allen is: Slowing down Not going through his progressions Seems a bit depressed Misses his ex Still isn't studying film Only wanted Dorsey because he's his buddy Has an allergy to pistachio's (talk about bad luck) Has lost his passion for the game I may have missed a few. Just how many ladders did this guy walk under in the offseason? We could do the Buffalo Sabres thing and trade him (Eichel/O'Reilly), and then watch him win a Championship immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 45 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: So this week we've learned that Josh Allen is: Slowing down Not going through his progressions Seems a bit depressed Misses his ex Still isn't studying film Only wanted Dorsey because he's his buddy Has an allergy to pistachio's (talk about bad luck) Has lost his passion for the game I may have missed a few. Just how many ladders did this guy walk under in the offseason? Low Positive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWatson#21 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 It's called getting older. Even Lamar Jackson is not as quick as he was in his first couple of seasons. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 My theory on Josh: He is number 17 Stevie Nicks sang a song called 'Edge of 17' Josh Allen is 'on the edge' Stevie Nicks was in a band called Fleetwood Mac Josh Allen used to be Fleet of foot but now is slower, as though he has wooden legs (hence FleetWOOD) Josh Allen is overweight = too many Big Macs (FleetWOOD MAC) The Albatross is a symbol of bad luck for seafarers Fleetwood Mac had a hit titled Albatross Josh Allen is experiencing bad luck Conclusion: Stevie Nicks looks a lot like the woman who played Princess Leia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 He is avoiding unnecessary contact. I still think his shoulder is hurt MORE than he is letting on. I also think the offense is designed to try to limit him on the ground, by giving him checkdowns or keeping the RB in to pass protect more. Regardless, we know in the past he has been successful with his legs. I'm sure we will see it come to life in games when needed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I mean, he's not going to get faster as he gets older. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Bad Things Man said: Is it just me or does Josh look a lot slower running the ball. Back in his rookie or second year some of his runs were clocked in the 20 mph range and he was making d-backs and LBs look silly running by them. Seems like now when he finally does run he has trouble beating defensive line. Anyone else notice this? His thought process appears to be. Not sure about his speed on the field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Bad Things Man said: Is it just me or does Josh look a lot slower running the ball. Back in his rookie or second year some of his runs were clocked in the 20 mph range and he was making d-backs and LBs look silly running by them. Seems like now when he finally does run he has trouble beating defensive line. Anyone else notice this? YES!! My son and I have talked about it a few times. When he runs this season he is noticeably slower than in past seasons. No doubt about it,. He lumbers when he runs now. He has gained a few lbs for sure in order to take hits. But you are 100% correct. He runs slower for sure. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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