BuffaloBillyG Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) Would have liked him, just not at that price. Edited October 30, 2023 by BuffaloBillyG 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaDigital Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Ooof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 That's a nice return for the Giants 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Yeah, great player but not worth the price in my eyes. Sucks, but it is what it is. Good haul for a (now suddenly) rebuilding Giants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) Sending a low 2nd for a proven player on the DL doesn't seem so crazy.  It's putting a quality DL on the credit card. The 2025 5th is a total "whatever" pick at this point. They have 2 years to trade a backup guard and get that back.  That guy's football life just became a lot more fun given Seattle's record.  Edited October 30, 2023 by TheFunPolice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 we were in on him. I wonder what happened to the deal? Especially with Schoen and Beane having a past. This pisses me off! THIS WAS OUR GUY!! I posted this elsewhere this morning. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said: Sending a low 2nd for a proven player on the DL doesn't seem so crazy.  It's putting a quality DL on the credit card. The 2025 5th is a total "whatever" pick at this point. They have 2 years to trade a backup guard and get that back.  That guy's football life just became a lot more fun given Seattle's record.   Hawks have great CB's that might now be even better if Williams can help them not have to cover as long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Big Turk said:  Hawks have great CB's that might now be even better if Williams can help them not have to cover as long.  Seattle has surprised me. They're good and just got better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Giants had to get a nice return to eat 13.5 million dollars worth of dead money.  Kind of glad the Bills didnt go after him as I dont see him as a true 1 Tech.  Wish the Giants had more talent on their roster as they obviously need to stock up on draft picks to try and get a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 It seems like the Seahawks get taken to the cleaners in a lot of these trades. Didn't they give up ransom to the Jets for Jamal Adams a few years back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 That’s a heck of a trade for the giants. They’re going nowhere this year and need all the ammo they can get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Beane probably balked at the 2nd rounder. I'm OK with that. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Since they are selling can we get the linebacker that ate our lunch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Would have liked him, just not at that price.  I think there's a decent chance Beane was in on this and got into a bidding war. Seattle is giving up a lot for a rental Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 If you make that 2nd round pick next spring you almost certainly don't have a player of that quality on your roster in 2024.  This way you get him for 2023 and all the dead cap stays behind, so you can trade or cut him without penalty at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: we were in on him. I wonder what happened to the deal? Especially with Schoen and Beane having a past. This pisses me off! THIS WAS OUR GUY!! I posted this elsewhere this morning.  Call the Commanders for Chase Young 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Sending a low 2nd for a proven player on the DL doesn't seem so crazy.  It's putting a quality DL on the credit card. The 2025 5th is a total "whatever" pick at this point. They have 2 years to trade a backup guard and get that back.  That guy's football life just became a lot more fun given Seattle's record.  I think it's a pretty cheap price, actually, but the issue is the salary and the Bills cap situation. They don't have the room for a trade like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: we were in on him. I wonder what happened to the deal? Especially with Schoen and Beane having a past. This pisses me off! THIS WAS OUR GUY!! I posted this elsewhere this morning. Daboll hates McD for some reason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:  I think there's a decent chance Beane was in on this and got into a bidding war. Seattle is giving up a lot for a rental Ya think?!!??? It's only ALL OVER twitter that Bills were close. Turns out Beane was trying for a package deal with Williams and Adoree Jackson - so he scared the Giants off I bet. I'm sure Elam was being thrown in. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: Ya think?!!??? It's only ALL OVER twitter that Bills were close. Turns out Beane was trying for a package deal with Williams and Adoree Jackson - so he scared the Giants off I bet. I'm sure Elam was being thrown in.  Uhhh I'm looking and don't see a whisper of that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: If you make that 2nd round pick next spring you almost certainly don't have a player of that quality on your roster in 2024.  This way you get him for 2023 and all the dead cap stays behind, so you can trade or cut him without penalty at all.  This is my thinking as well. What 2nd round rookie DL is playing as well as Williams?  I get you need to ink him to at least a 3 yr deal, which will be expensive. But it's not like we have many other DTs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: Ya think?!!??? It's only ALL OVER twitter that Bills were close. Turns out Beane was trying for a package deal with Williams and Adoree Jackson - so he scared the Giants off I bet. I'm sure Elam was being thrown in. Sean McDermott and beane don't leak much out as in signing players. Twitter could possibly be wrong place for stuff. It's pretty much wait and see. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: Ya think?!!??? It's only ALL OVER twitter that Bills were close. Turns out Beane was trying for a package deal with Williams and Adoree Jackson - so he scared the Giants off I bet. I'm sure Elam was being thrown in. Can you throw me a link? Not seeing this anywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 A little to steep for me, pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: Ya think?!!??? It's only ALL OVER twitter that Bills were close  Then it must be true!!!      1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) Twitter doesn't even exist anymore  X does.  Therefore: who knows... Edited October 30, 2023 by TheFunPolice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:  I think there's a decent chance Beane was in on this and got into a bidding war. Seattle is giving up a lot for a rental Who knows. But I think I'd rather keep that 2nd rounder as well. Especially with Buffalo possibly being in on a DT that wouldn't cost picks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2nd rounder and more for a half year rental is pretty steep. If Seattle ends up signing him for longer maybe not as rough. I’d say the giants got max value for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Twitter doesn't even exist anymore  X does.  Therefore: who knows... To paraphrase the late, great Johnny Cochrane,  "If it's xcreted, as fact it must be treated." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said: Since they are selling can we get the linebacker that ate our lunch Odenkirk, Krakatoa?  Something like that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:  Call the Commanders for Chase Young What does Chase Young bring to the table that we don't already have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Having 2 thirds gives us a shot at trades, but i'm reluctant to part with a 2nd when we are likely to have holes at S (Poyer final year, Hyde UFA), WR (Davis UFA), DE (floyd/AJE UFAs), potentially CB (White coming off another major injury), DT (DQ UFA). Too many needs moving forward just to tread water let alone improve without a lot of picks.  1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Not worth it for a one year rental given D. Jones should be back for the playoffs. Â Just need to get there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 53 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: we were in on him. I wonder what happened to the deal? Especially with Schoen and Beane having a past. This pisses me off! THIS WAS OUR GUY!! I posted this elsewhere this morning. Schoen asked for a 12pk of toilet paper to sweeten the deal and Beane replied "Sorry, I don't have a square to spare ". 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Low Positive Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 If the offers were similar, they might have given Williams the choice of where to go. He is a West Coast guy, so maybe he prefers Seattle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 27 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: we were in on him. I wonder what happened to the deal? Especially with Schoen and Beane having a past. This pisses me off! THIS WAS OUR GUY!! I posted this elsewhere this morning.  Don't get me wrong... Williams is a good player who will help almost any team. But he's a 3/5 tech... And a perfect fit for Seattle who run odd man fronts.  The Bills REALLY need a 1/0 tech IMHO... Behind Poona we have nothing there. And yes I realize we have Settle...like I said we have nothing there behind Poona... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Williams is a 3T at heart and we already have like 3 of them 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Gregg said: It seems like the Seahawks get taken to the cleaners in a lot of these trades. Didn't they give up ransom to the Jets for Jamal Adams a few years back. One bad trade you reference. Now lets examine the BIG deals. What did they get for Russel Wilson? What did they give up for Geno Smith? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: Sending a low 2nd for a proven player on the DL doesn't seem so crazy.  It's putting a quality DL on the credit card. The 2025 5th is a total "whatever" pick at this point. They have 2 years to trade a backup guard and get that back.  That guy's football life just became a lot more fun given Seattle's record.   It's pretty high for a guy on the last year of his deal. I'm not giving up a 2nd+ for someone who's only under contract for 10 games and the playoffs (if they make it).  Makes me wonder if it was something we were in on and the Seahawks had to outbid to get him. If not us, probably someone because again, that's a lot for less than a year of a player. Edited October 30, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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