VaMilBill Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) Guy can’t call a decent offense. We saw it all game that running the ball from under center was working. Why abandon that so quickly. Heck, Daboll seemed to run the same play 5 times in a row in the second drive of the second half. If it works, keep using it. Josh in the gun on then 1 inch line is inexcusable. Ken can’t adjust and has been a bad OC since the second half of the GB game last year. He needs to go ASAP Edited October 16, 2023 by VaMilBill 7 2 2 1 2 41 2 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) Dude has GOT to go. Not only does he bear responsibility for whatever the ***** that first half was, this offense has looked completely out of sync for approximately 50% of their games this year. He got his rookie year to learn. Unfortunately, he has only gotten worse. The book is out on his tendencies. He doesn't learn. He rarely adjusts. When he does adjust, he does it for like 3 plays then goes back to the same old crap. I, for one, will be praying that a press release is announced tomorrow that he has been relieved of his duties. Edited October 16, 2023 by FireChans 10 18 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Strip him of play calling. Let's see what Brady or Shula can do 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) ITS OFFICIAL!!!! ps- Sign Bobby Okereke in the off season when he is available. Dude is legit. Oh wait… 😞 Edited October 16, 2023 by BBFL 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I'd like to see what Brady or Shula can do calling plays then get a new OC in the off-season 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I am not a Dorsey hater but it does seem he is learning on the fly 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 After tonight, screw it, let Josh call the plays. Hell, let Diggs call the plays!! How much worse can they be? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I would literally give my left nut to never see another freaking shotgun draw. 5 3 9 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, Coldfronts said: I am not a Dorsey hater but it does seem he is learning on the fly “Learning “ would be nice 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Coldfronts said: I am not a Dorsey hater but it does seem he is learning on the fly It's been a year and a half 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I roll my eyes at literally every single "fire the coordinator" or "fire the coach" post on here, or call on WGR. But I'm on board. This was horrific. His obsession with running the ball is maddening. The worst was a run play, from the shotgun, from INSIDE THE ONE YARD LINE. Handed the ball off at the 6. When you have a cheat code at QB that scores on literally 100% of those plays. Maybe if the Giants lose enough games, we can get Daboll back. Dorsey just has NO imagination. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, 1ManRaid said: I would literally give my left nut to never see another freaking shotgun draw. I would give both. It's like the 2013 Nate Hackett offense reincarnated 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Coldfronts said: I am not a Dorsey hater but it does seem he is learning on the fly Are you referring to his string of run plays? That was good to see. Wish he had thought to do that earlier in the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: I'd like to see what Brady or Shula can do calling plays then get a new OC in the off-season It's time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Are we really proposing firing the offensive coordinator mid-season at 4-2 with a top offense? You think throwing a brand new guy in there mid-season will go smoothly? man… 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I thought the 2nd half was better.... but he looks a bit lost right now to me. He has lost confidence. I think Josh has lost confidence in him. And they have both lost confidence on the other pass catchers besides Diggs. 10 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Count me as officially on the train. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, Coldfronts said: I am not a Dorsey hater but it does seem he is learning on the fly Someone said in the GDT that he was using Daboll’s playbook… Whilst it is expected for nuances and play design to be similar, if ever there was a time to show your creativity it was now. Giants being in this game has to do with Daboll’s history here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, VaMilBill said: Guy can’t call a decent offense. We saw it all game that running the ball from under center was working. Why abandon that so quickly. Heck, Daboll seemed to run the same play 5 times in a row in the second drive of the second half. If it works, keep using it. Josh in the gun on then 1 inch line is inexcusable. Ken can’t adjust and has been a bad OC since the second half of the GB game last year. He needs to go ASAP Oh God thanks for reminding me about shotgun inside the 1. We have possibly the best QB sneaker in history and I don't remember the last time a sneak was called. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, 1ManRaid said: I would literally give my left nut to never see another freaking shotgun draw. Im not advocating for Dorsey to get fired, but that play call was brutally bad. I’m surprised Allen even ran it. I would’ve vetoed it if I was Allen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, GunnerBill said: I thought the 2nd half was better.... but he looks a bit lost right now to me. He has lost confidence. I think Josh has lost confidence in him. And they have both lost confidence on the other pass catchers besides Diggs. The second half was better because you can only get better than zero points lol. He's cooked as a coordinator. It's ova. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 Gotta fire that HB draw play from the gun into the sun too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 There is definitely a schematic issue with the offense. No rhythm, and while we don't want a ton of designed runs for Josh, there needs to be a few sprinkled in to keep the defense honest. They literally coached it to the point he is gun shy. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, CLTbills said: I roll my eyes at literally every single "fire the coordinator" or "fire the coach" post on here, or call on WGR. But I'm on board. This was horrific. His obsession with running the ball is maddening. The worst was a run play, from the shotgun, from INSIDE THE ONE YARD LINE. Handed the ball off at the 6. When you have a cheat code at QB that scores on literally 100% of those plays. Maybe if the Giants lose enough games, we can get Daboll back. Dorsey just has NO imagination. I bet Daboll was laughing his ass off at that playcall. How in god's name do you dial up something like that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 There’s an official thread to the thread of the other threads for firing Ken. it’s officially official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 He had a pretty play design for the Harty TD. Relax people. It’s a win. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, BBFL said: Someone said in the GDT that he was using Daboll’s playbook… Whilst it is expected for nuances and play design to be similar, if ever there was a time to show your creativity it was now. Giants being in this game has to do with Daboll’s history here. let's hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I’ll stay away from the board for a few days. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, CLTbills said: I roll my eyes at literally every single "fire the coordinator" or "fire the coach" post on here, or call on WGR. But I'm on board. This was horrific. His obsession with running the ball is maddening. The worst was a run play, from the shotgun, from INSIDE THE ONE YARD LINE. Handed the ball off at the 6. When you have a cheat code at QB that scores on literally 100% of those plays. Maybe if the Giants lose enough games, we can get Daboll back. Dorsey just has NO imagination. Daboll not coming back. He was butting heads with McDermott by the end of his tenure and was going to move on whether he got a HC job or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, 1ManRaid said: Oh God thanks for reminding me about shotgun inside the 1. We have possibly the best QB sneaker in history and I don't remember the last time a sneak was called. Josh's shoulder isn't right. Not good. But that was prolly the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, buffblue said: I would give both. It's like the 2013 Nate Hackett offense reincarnated I volunteer this generous soul to donate a nut in my stead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Rigotz said: Are we really proposing firing the offensive coordinator mid-season at 4-2 with a top offense? You think throwing a brand new guy in there mid-season will go smoothly? man… Joe Brady is the QB coach and has OC experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Is this the official thread? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, FireChans said: The second half was better because you can only get better than zero points lol. He's cooked as a coordinator. It's ova. Yea I tend to agree. His adjustments helped us win this game. But it was an adjustment to a plan that we can't win a Superbowl with. Don't get me wrong, we can run the ball now. We are not a top rushing offense but we can run it. However, if that is his only response when the offense gets stuck it won't be enough against better teams. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 His call on 3rd down was gutsy and worked perfectly - Josh’s throw wasn’t perfect but was thigh high to knox who got both hands on it and dropped it. Was that Dorsey’s fault. I am very like warm on Dorsey but this offense is shooting itself in the foot with dropped passes, fumbles, interceptions. Hard to get in a rhythm sometime when your players are making mistakes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 He needs to stop letting defensive sets dictate to him and just call the diversified offense that we've seen him be perfectly capable of calling. If he stops outthinking himself, he'll probably be OK. I bet a straightforward meeting with the head coach this week will get that message across very clearly. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 While I agree, Josh bears some blame... That miss on 3rd down to Knox was on Josh, also Knox, but that was a terrible pass. At the end of day/big picture, Dorsey is just OK. We lack playmakers at WR. Diggs then what? Gabe isn't twitchy enough, then we have a bunch of "try hards" and a rookie who hasn't been utilized enough/right ways in Kincaid. Need to spend more on offensive weaponry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, CLTbills said: I roll my eyes at literally every single "fire the coordinator" or "fire the coach" post on here, or call on WGR. But I'm on board. This was horrific. His obsession with running the ball is maddening. The worst was a run play, from the shotgun, from INSIDE THE ONE YARD LINE. Handed the ball off at the 6. When you have a cheat code at QB that scores on literally 100% of those plays. Maybe if the Giants lose enough games, we can get Daboll back. Dorsey just has NO imagination. What game were you watching? His obsession with running the ball? The reason the Bills struggled is because Dorsey chose to barely run it. Am I in some parallel universe? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, Simon said: He needs to stop letting defensive sets dictate to him and just call the diversified offense that we've seen him be perfectly capable of calling. If he stops outthinking himself, he'll probably be OK. I bet a straightforward meeting with the head coach this week will get that message across very clearly. Hopefully that straightforward meeting results in his firing. 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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