hondo in seattle Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: When is Beane going to be held accountable? I think Terry already did. Beane took a team that never made the playoffs and transformed it into a team that always makes the playoffs. Terry counted up the successes and failures and rewarded Beane with an extension. One of the things that made Basham expendable is that Beane has successfully acquired other good DEs. I do agree, though, Beane still needs to get better as a GM. He's given McD a good roster to work with, maybe a very good one, but not a great one. Edited August 29, 2023 by hondo in seattle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleSammy Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Wonder if we can trade McDermott and Beane for Daboll and Schoen? 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Beane has been tossing his 2nd round picks in the garbage since he became GM. Zay (busted here), Cody Ford, Boogie, Epenesa. So . . . Yeah. We may plop Elam on the discard list pretty soon, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Just now, Bleeding Bills Blue said: They also used the 2nd overall pick on zach wilson the year before. So they got an all-pro corner, a NOT all-pro WR who looks to be a good player, and a worthless QB. With More draft capital than buffalo has had if you combine probably the last 3 seasons if not more. They also threw away a pick on Denzel Mims and Becton is looking pretty poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeavercreekBillsFan Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Just now, Gambit said: Umm, by a mile? Ever heard of the Eagles? Best LT, best RB, stud WRs, top TE, best DE and MLB in football. Stud corner in award and safety in Hufanga. Not to mention Hargrave and Armstead on in IDL. No one else has that many blue chippers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 minute ago, eball said: That trope is getting stale, my boy. This roster is loaded whether you choose to admit it or not. If 30% of 1st round draft choices fail, what do you think the odds are for 2nd rounders? Dude you're wasting your time. This is the same guy that 20 years ago would be wishing for this to be something to complain about. They want to sit there and complain as if we didn't win 13 games last year and the year before with a team that is built and built very well. Did he miss on a few picks? Sure.... but what about the Gabe Davis', Matt Milano's, Benford, Neal, Knox, etc etc etc ... He absolutely needs to be better in rounds 1 and 2, there's no doubt but hes far from a poor drafter. I believe I saw the Bills retain most of their picks beyond most in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: I think he should be put on a hot seat. I would like Mcdermott to get more involved. I have always though Mcdermott has been the better evaluator of talent. Based on what evidence? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 minute ago, BUFFALOBART said: Jeez, a late 2025 pick. Might as well, just've cut him, for all of the good that trade is going to do for the Bills Yeah, late round draft picks are worthless. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Just now, Gambit said: Umm, by a mile? Ever heard of the Eagles? QB - Eagles RBs - 49ers WR - Eagles - It's close though OL - Eagles DL - 49ers - Also very close LB - 49ers DB - Eagles Pretty close - gotta give eagles an edge with Hurts though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 minute ago, SCBills said: What an awful pick .. and so many fans knew it was awful from jump. Ugh... Oh come on, so many fans know EVERY PICK is awful "from the jump" (including Josh) 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Its a late round pick swap. Useless Just like Boogie. What’s his special trait? I have no clue. Overager in the draft. Short arms. No bend. Not heavy enough to effectively play tackle in our scheme. Maybe he’s a 3-4 DE. I don’t know. I never got this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 i'm of the group that doesn't see how it was worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 minute ago, CountDorkula said: We really picking on the GM who’s team has won Two of the last 4 Superbowls and has been in 3 of 4 and was very close to going to 4 straight. GM hit on an elite QB and has an owner with some of the deepest pockets in the NFL. Beane is a good GM.. talented eye for Day 3 players and is solid in FA acquisitions/cap management, but these bad misses on premium draft picks are adding up. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Wow, we sure snookered the Giants on that deal. No, the original snookering happened when we drafted him in the 2nd round. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Not another Creed Humphrey thread 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, warrior9 said: Dude you're wasting your time. This is the same guy that 20 years ago would be wishing for this to be something to complain about. They want to sit there and complain as if we didn't win 13 games last year and the year before with a team that is built and built very well. Did he miss on a few picks? Sure.... but what about the Gabe Davis', Matt Milano's, Benford, Neal, Knox, etc etc etc ... He absolutely needs to be better in rounds 1 and 2, there's no doubt but hes far from a poor drafter. I believe I saw the Bills retain most of their picks beyond most in the league. They won 13 games. Cool. do they get a trophy? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said: And don’t forget lighting his 3rd rounders on fire every year with garbage like Bernard. You mean the guy that’s gonna be our MLB this season? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Last year the Jets drafted two All Pros in Round 1 and the Bills drafted a 4th string corner. Allen is saving Beane's job right now. Haha, yeah, with picks 1.4 and 1.10. Coach No Context at it again! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Just now, CountDorkula said: They won 13 games. Cool. do they get a trophy? We gonna crown the Giants for going 9-8? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: I think he should be put on a hot seat. I would like Mcdermott to get more involved. I have always though Mcdermott has been the better evaluator of talent. You didn't answer his question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Just now, teef said: i'm of the group that doesn't see how it was worth it. If we improved our draft position by trading a guy who was going to be cut then it was a solid deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: You mean the guy that’s gonna be our MLB this season? You understand that doesn’t mean he’ll be any good right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 minute ago, teef said: i'm of the group that doesn't see how it was worth it. In simplest terms…he was going to be cut, for which the Bills would receive nothing. Instead, they gained some cap space and swapped out a 7th round pick for a 5th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Zay (busted here), Cody Ford, Boogie, Epenesa. So . . . Yeah. We may plop Elam on the discard list pretty soon, too. That list is fairly damning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: We gonna crown the Giants for going 9-8? Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Based on what evidence? The draft he did before Beane was here, and also the game day roster is usually spot on. Edited August 29, 2023 by Back2Buff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Personally, I hope that this means Kingsley Jonathan can make the team That kids got it 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 The tweet says "as part of the deal". I wonder if there is a conditional pick in next year's draft based upon Boogie's performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 We supposedly value draft capital and never want to give it up for vets at trade deadline etc. Yet often make questionable picks and then essentially dump said questionable picks for nada. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: Who asked you, genius? I’m just replying to your top notch analysis. My bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: They won 13 games. Cool. do they get a trophy? Do you get some thing for being the winners of your division? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: If we improved our draft position by trading a guy who was going to be cut then it was a solid deal. oh yeah. if he was going to be cut than so be it. i just didn't assume his was going to be cut after a somewhat productive camp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeavercreekBillsFan Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Roundybout said: You mean the guy that’s gonna be our MLB this season? Doesn’t mean he’s good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, eball said: In simplest terms…he was going to be cut, for which the Bills would receive nothing. Instead, they gained some cap space and swapped out a 7th round pick for a 5th. Where did you see we swapped a 7th for a 5th? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 To be fair Bean has drafted 3 DE high in the draft in recent years as well as bringing in Von and Floyd and bringing back Shaq at some point someone was going to be the odd man out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said: Shanahan (and lynch) also has the best roster in the league by a MILE. He also worked deals to get the best LT and RBs in the league for pennies compared to their worth. And he also has been terrible at protecting QBs who get injured at a far, far higher rate than anywhere else in the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Do you get some thing for being the winners of your division? You get “crowned” AFC east champion and you can hang a banner but personally I think it’s silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Huh? Lots of posters here fawning over Schoen and Daboll, when they haven’t won **** 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Cut bait, non-impact player...bye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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