Trade Candidates?

[TFBillsfan]

With the Bills having a deep roster, who do you think are potential trade candidates before final roster cuts? Curious to know who might be a trade option and who we might target in return. IMO, all eyes will be on the LB position in the first two preseason games. Does the current LB competition look solid or will it be obvious we have a big drop off/liability at the position outside of Milano. Do the Bills keep all their DE depth? Would you trade a CB? Any surprise trade candidates?

My opinion is the roster is too deep at certain positions to not expect a trade.

 

What says you BillsMafia?

[BigBadBills]

12 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

With the Bills having a deep roster, who do you think are potential trade candidates before final roster cuts? Curious to know who might be a trade option and who we might target in return. IMO, all eyes will be on the LB position in the first two preseason games. Does the current LB competition look solid or will it be obvious we have a big drop off/liability at the position outside of Milano. Do the Bills keep all their DE depth? Would you trade a CB? Any surprise trade candidates?

My opinion is the roster is too deep at certain positions to not expect a trade.

 

What says you BillsMafia?

Boogie Basham 

[BuffaloBillyG]

Beane has a past history of finding trade partners for OL. With that in mind I'm thinking Greg Mancz is a possibility. 

Edited August 10, 2023 by BuffaloBillyG

[OldTimer1960]

I’m still hoping that the light comes on for Elam, but If he can’t win the starting job convincingly, he should be considered as a trade candidate. Question is, what could you get in return for him?

 

 

 

[custcarcen]

Epeneza

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

 

Cuba.  Trade restrictions should be eased.

[ddaryl]

4 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I’m still hoping that the light comes on for Elam, but If he can’t win the starting job convincingly, he should be considered as a trade candidate. Question is, what could you get in return for him?

 

 

 

 

 

 He still has value in the rotation and he is on a rookie contract, no I would not even consider trading him. UNLESS the deal is too goods to be true

Edited August 10, 2023 by ddaryl

[Coldfronts]

von

[OldTimer1960]

3 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

 He still has value in the rotation and he is on a rookie contract, no I would not even consider trading him. UNLESS the deal is too goods to be true

I was looking at it from the perspective of keeping a first round pick who has been a disappointment.  Also, can’t imagine that his trade value would go anywhere but down as a backup to a guy he was picked to replace.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

4 minutes ago, Coldfronts said:

von

For who?  Joe Douglas? 😉
*
(Actually, boo birds will probably be chirping for Daboll...🤔)

Edited August 10, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[Magox]

19 minutes ago, BigBadBills said:

Boogie Basham 

 

Yes, I think so.  I do think they could probably get a 5th for him.

[Bangarang]

11 minutes ago, custcarcen said:

Epeneza

Seems like a silly suggestion given we don’t know when Von is coming back.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

2 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

Yes, I think so.  I do think they could probably get a 5th for him.

Dimple Pinch?

[JohnBonhamRocks]

Doyle, Quessenberry, Mancz, Basham, Settle, Phillips, Klein. Was thinking Benford, but I think they like him and might try him at safety. Would anyone give up a pick for Cam Lewis?

[machine gun kelly]

16 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

Yes, I think so.  I do think they could probably get a 5th for him.

Basham is the most likely candidate.  AZ is dieing for defensive help.  He could start on that type of team.

[MikePJ76]

if you pay attention around the league you will see that every teams media and fanbase thinks they have 9 or 10 great wr and would be sure to be able to trade a few of them.  every year this discussion happens.

 

Every team is heavy at the same positions this time of year, wr,rb and secondary and everyone always thinks they can get back these big returns for these guys.  It never happens.

 

What every team wants this time of year is offensive lineman and pass rushers which are almost impossible to come by.  If you spend some time reading about other teams camps you will see right away everyone is looking for tackles.

 

having said all that I would call Dallas and see what the status of zach martin is.  He is holding out and the jones family bails on veteran players when they want more money.  They kicked out Demarcus Ware and said he couldnt play anymore which was 100% not true.  Maybe the Martin hold out could someway come to the same conclusion.  The guy is great and close to retirement but can play Right tackle or guard.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

The team would be highly foolish to trade any of their roster-locked CB/DE/WR depth like AJE, Dane Jackson, or one of the WRs. The guys who aren’t roster locks, being Shane Ray, Jordan Phillips, Cam Lewis, ext, don’t have much trade value. I’d rather the team try to hide some of them on the PS than trade them for a conditional 6th. 

Edited August 10, 2023 by TheyCallMeAndy

[SCBills]

Basham seems obvious at this point.

 

Maybe Settle, but with Oliver and Phillips coming off years where they were banged up quite a bit, I think they may decide to roll with 5 DT's.

 

At DE.. Von, Rousseau, Floyd and AJE are locks.  

 

Basham has value given 2 years left on his rookie contract.  Shane Ray could lock down DE5, or be someone we can get on the PS depending upon his preseason tape.  

 

I don't really see any other trade candidates.  We have zero tackle depth, and while we do have IOL depth, I'm not sure who is wanting to send picks out for anyone like Boettger coming off injury or a late round pick in Nick Broeker.

 

[4merper4mer]

53 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

 

Cuba.  Trade restrictions should be eased.

Ok commie

[VaMilBill]

55 minutes ago, custcarcen said:

Epeneza

Good point. Especially with him having a “good” camp, now may be the time to sell. 

[JerseyBills]

1 hour ago, BigBadBills said:

Boogie Basham 

Doubt we give up on a 2nd rder in year 3. We'd get a day 3 pick. McBeane both praised his play as year went on and he adds versatility able to play inside 

 

 

[Heavy Kevi]

1 hour ago, TFBillsfan said:

With the Bills having a deep roster, who do you think are potential trade candidates before final roster cuts? Curious to know who might be a trade option and who we might target in return. IMO, all eyes will be on the LB position in the first two preseason games. Does the current LB competition look solid or will it be obvious we have a big drop off/liability at the position outside of Milano. Do the Bills keep all their DE depth? Would you trade a CB? Any surprise trade candidates?

My opinion is the roster is too deep at certain positions to not expect a trade.

 

What says you BillsMafia?

 

I think they feel good about the LB room. I don't know what to make of it but I would be surprised at this point to see beane address it.

 

I would also be shocked if they trade any DB. After last year, I don't see them thinning the herd there. Not yet.

 

But I do think there will be trades. Beane will move a couple cut candidates for late rounders. If there were going to be any significant trade, I would imagine it would involve a position they've already kicked the tires on and tried to improve already, like WR.

 

A team like this isn't trading anyone good for less than a player. At least not before the season. If beane is letting go of someone good, he's got to know what he is getting back will help us towards a championship this year.

[Gregg]

Zach Martin is still a holdout for the Cowboys. I would love for the Bills to work out a trade. Martin is exactly what the Bills could use but financially I don't think Beane could make it work.

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, Coldfronts said:

von

Isn’t that a grocery chain in California…, 

[HIT BY SPIKES]

1 hour ago, BigBadBills said:

Boogie Basham 

For a 2024 6th round draft pick?

[Simon Says]

Shaq Lawson. Haven't heard a peep from him this summer,and other guys are flashing;  Floyd, Ray, even the man-with-two-first names,Kingsley Johnathan.

Edited August 10, 2023 by Herb Nightly
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[Don Otreply]

28 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

Ok commie

Socialist actually…, 😂

[Simon Says]

1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I’m still hoping that the light comes on for Elam, but If he can’t win the starting job convincingly, he should be considered as a trade candidate. Question is, what could you get in return for him?

 

 

 

Elam is a first round pick in just the 2nd year of his rookie deal, adjusting to zone defense. Bills might adjust the scheme to fit and you  end CB depth. He isn't going anywhere.

12 minutes ago, Gregg said:

Zach Martin is still a holdout for the Cowboys. I would love for the Bills to work out a trade. Martin is exactly what the Bills could use but financially I don't think Beane could make it work.

The Bills need another RIGHT GUARD? A highly paid 33 year old right guard? If Beane could raise that kind of money, he would be better off investing in a right TACKLE.

[Don Otreply]

1 minute ago, Herb Nightly said:

Elam is a first round pick in just the 2nd year of his rookie deal, adjusting to zone defense. Bills might adjust the scheme to fit and you  end CB depth. He isn't going anywhere.

Agree,  Elam isn’t going anywhere, especially as a 1st round pick entering his second season coming of a 3 pick rookie season, imo, unless we got an offer we couldn’t refuse…, outside of that he is a lock for the next couple seasons. 

[buffaloboyinATL]

1 hour ago, custcarcen said:

Epeneza

Hell no.  By all accounts, he is looking even better this year. I am excited to see a rotation with Von, Epenesa, Floyd and Groot.  Constant pressure...

[Simon Says]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Beane has a past history of finding trade partners for OL. With that in mind I'm thinking Greg Mancz is a possibility. 

I wonder if they could hide Mancz on the practice squad. We assume Bates will be the primary backup to Morse but in case of emergency, who else could play center? Did I read that McGovern might have previously taken center reps?

1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I was looking at it from the perspective of keeping a first round pick who has been a disappointment.  Also, can’t imagine that his trade value would go anywhere but down as a backup to a guy he was picked to replace.

Maybe a disappointment to YOU. Did you see him play last year? Yes,he has to adjust to the Bills zone D but corners can take 2 or 3 years to develop.

Next question; would you be comfortable with the remaining depth? Are you ready to put Austin or Ingram or Lewis there? 

I think the Bills have a good CB group that will be needed to defend 3,4 WR alignments. 

Edited August 10, 2023 by Herb Nightly

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, custcarcen said:

Epeneza

I understand why youre getting negative reaction to this, his game seems to be turning a corner.  While theres a 95% chance of Nah, maybe theres a team desperate for a rusher thats willing to compensate in a mini-  Matt Flynn, Brain Bohm, Rob Johnson sort of effect (sell high!) I'd be willing to at least listen

 

I dunno, trying to think outside the box here instead of being the guy to pretend that Boogies return is any different then our Bam Johnson deal.

[OldTimer1960]

45 minutes ago, Herb Nightly said:

I wonder if they could hide Mancz on the practice squad. We assume Bates will be the primary backup to Morse but in case of emergency, who else could play center? Did I read that McGovern might have previously taken center reps?

Maybe a disappointment to YOU. Did you see him play last year? Yes,he has to adjust to the Bills zone D but corners can take 2 or 3 years to develop.

Next question; would you be comfortable with the remaining depth? Are you ready to put Austin or Ingram or Lewis there? 

I think the Bills have a good CB group that will be needed to defend 3,4 WR alignments. 

I understand that it can take a while for draftees to find their footing in the NFL, but it has to be a concern that a first round pick who was specifically drafted to replace Dane Jackson, is struggling to win that job.  Now, I know that Jackson isn’t horrible, but they clearly wanted to upgrade from him and that hasn’t worked out so far.

 

To the 2nd question, if Jackson and Benford beat Elam out, then sure I’d be comfortable trading him.

 

Yes, I saw Elam play last year and I thought he played reasonably well, but it doesn’t seem that the coaches are confident in him.  

[Augie]

2 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I’m still hoping that the light comes on for Elam, but If he can’t win the starting job convincingly, he should be considered as a trade candidate. Question is, what could you get in return for him?

 

 

 

 

He was drafted for his physical tools and his ceiling. This is a guy you develop, not trade. You never have too many capable CB’s. I’m with you, hoping it starts to slow down for him and he lives up to his draft status. 

 

My first thought was Basham. 

1 hour ago, HIT BY SPIKES said:

For a 2024 6th round draft pick?

 

If he’s not going to make the team, you take what you can get. I’m not saying that will be the case with Basham, but somewhere there is going to be the odd man out on roster spots. 

[Rico]

Quess + a 7th for a 6th.

[The Jokeman]

2 minutes ago, Rico said:

Quess + a 7th for a 6th.

How many 6ths we need? Think we have 3 now thanks to trading down in the draft. 

[Rico]

2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

How many 6ths we need? Think we have 3 now thanks to trading down in the draft. 

As many as you can get without hurting the team, always good for trade bait.

 

Hamlin and a 6th for a 5th.

[ColoradoBills]

4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

How many 6ths we need? Think we have 3 now thanks to trading down in the draft. 

 

How about Quess + 6th for a 5th?

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

How many 6ths we need? Think we have 3 now thanks to trading down in the draft. 

 

Add more chips to the pile to use as trade capital. Beane LOVES that stuff! But it does look funny when you have a ton of them. I was happy to carry some picks forward. That’s always a nice feeling. 

[PBF81]

3 hours ago, TFBillsfan said:

With the Bills having a deep roster, who do you think are potential trade candidates before final roster cuts? Curious to know who might be a trade option and who we might target in return. IMO, all eyes will be on the LB position in the first two preseason games. Does the current LB competition look solid or will it be obvious we have a big drop off/liability at the position outside of Milano. Do the Bills keep all their DE depth? Would you trade a CB? Any surprise trade candidates?

My opinion is the roster is too deep at certain positions to not expect a trade.

 

What says you BillsMafia?

 

IDK, but if I'm a GM I'm not sure I'm willing to trade any player that's going to make a difference for another player, when in a few weeks teams are going to be waiving nearly 40% of their players, minus IR stocks etc., in the cut from 90 to 53.  

 

Were there a lot of trades last season before final cuts?