Success Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: After the drought, and having to overpay FA's just to get their interest, and seeing draft picks like Gilmore look bummed when they were picked - I get chills reading this stuff. We're it now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 The hundreds of simulations I ran, he never dropped to 59. Very nice, we need some maulers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: I’m not sold on the approach here although I get the value. Assume they’re gonna put Torrence next to Dawkins, so does this mean Dawkins doesn’t kick inside in a couple of years? More importantly, you’ve got the left side of the line set up for a power scheme now, but not really the right side. And running screen passes behind Dawkins and Torrence and asking them to get downfield and block? I don’t think so. Just an odd schematic fit to me but they’ve been doing this mismatch thing on the o-line for most of McD’s tenure. To me it screams long-term fix at RG if they have to move Bates inside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, MPT said: Try running through a tub of goo to sack a QB. Not so easy eh? Better than the tubs of "sorry sir let me get out of your way" guards we've been rotating the past few years. You just run or stunt around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just now, ColoradoBills said: Cody was a RT. He couldn't do that and couldn't move to RG. I see your "athletic" point, but Torrence is a full-time natural RG. Let's see what an NFL camp will do with him. Seemed like after Ford the Bills shifted to more athletic OL. So this Torrence pick shocks me but I’m glad he’s a natural OG rather than converting someone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Zero quarterback hits allowed last season Zero Saks allowed in his career Mauler… Smart football player Excellent pick 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Dear God, I hope you're joking as that makes me even angrier at this pick. He weight 580 in middle school 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coach Tuesday Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: Torrence RG only. Thanks - I thought they said he’d be manning the LG in Buffalo. Again though, putting Torrence between Morse and Brown is … odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy81 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Great pick. Protect Allen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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78thealltimegreat Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Holy Cow 46 starts and zero sacks allowed in his college career in the Sec no less 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 26 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: More likely they kick Bates outside to RT right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 For those of us who remember a massive OLman from the past... Torrence is 40 pounds lighter than Mike Williams was. He'll be just fine. Mike Williams 6'6", 370 lbs O'Cyrus Torrence 6'5", 330 lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I understand that. I was hoping we could jump the Giants for JMS. I'm not saying Beane screwed up. I'm merely talking about player preference. We only had six pics in this draft. We can’t continually give up pics to move up. This guy is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Yeah not like anyone uses pulling guards anymore. Almost like i said “more of a” yea aren’t getting a wart free all pro that does everything well at 59 they got a guy that wins at point of attack but isn’t as mobile. For a position that needs less, but not zero, mobility. they are all coin flips at this point. Hopefully he mauls a few guys. Edited April 29, 2023 by NoSaint 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chaos said: https://www.gatorsports.com/story/sports/college/football/2023/04/28/florida-gators-ol-ocyrus-torrence-taken-by-in-nfl-draft/70126414007/ Chaos you did a hell of a job this off season at scouting. Is this a day one starter or is it a big fight for position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: That. Cant get out on the move that well. He can push straight ahead well, but is soft if he has to move laterally. Plus I dont like how that Florida team played so not high on players coming out of there. I dunno. I dont want to bag on the kid too bad. I'm cheering for him now that he is a Bill. Just wish the draft went differently. He held his own against Jalen Carter which is saying something. And I don't care if he was playing in D III, not giving up a single sack in over 1500 snaps is impressive any way you slice it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Amazing pick putting the best draft resources around Josh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, jlgarsh said: More likely they kick Bates outside to RT right? No 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Jokeman Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Zero quarterback hits allowed last season Zero Saks allowed in his career Mauler… Smart football player Excellent pick Until you see illegal use of hands or holding flags directed at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: Thanks - I thought they said he’d be manning the LG in Buffalo. Again though, putting Torrence between Morse and Brown is … odd. The whole interior is crowded but still odd. McGovern Edwards Torrence Bates Boettger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: You just run or stunt around him. Considering he gave up zero sacks his entire career in the SEC, I don’t think it is that easy. We won’t be pulling him for run plays, but keeping Allen upright is more important. Edited April 29, 2023 by DapperCam 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, jlgarsh said: More likely they kick Bates outside to RT right? Or just kick Bates outside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Roundybout said: To me it screams long-term fix at RG if they have to move Bates inside. Remember it took multiple injuries for Bates to even get a shot to start. McD valued his versatility so much to play all over the line as a fill in, he didn't want to risk losing him to injury... Could see Bates going back to that role. Edited April 29, 2023 by Big Turk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: You just run or stunt around him. They did that a lot to him in college, so many sacks given up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Not sure why Torrence fell this far, but he’s a steal at this point for the Bills. Powerful mauler in a phone booth who will instantly boost the run game of Buffalo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, mead107 said: What team will be the first to draft a female? Dolphins drafted Tua a couple years ago. 1 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sven233 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: You just run or stunt around him. He hasn't allowed a sack in his entire college career...... Obviously it hasn't been that easy to just "run or stunt around him". He's going to get beat in the pros. Even the best lineman do. But don't pretend he's just getting beat like a drum regularly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, mead107 said: What team will be the first to draft a female? what the heck??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYSONKO1 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, Beast said: Allen, getting behind this guy should be sure money on QB Buffalo's version of the fridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: he took several steps in any direction? That’s more than some here advertise him capable of Could be Cody ford, could be great. Glad we took a viable swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, jlgarsh said: More likely they kick Bates outside to RT right? When you look at the cap hits next year....Morse is a cut candidate and we have lots of OGs right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, HurlyBurly51 said: They did that a lot to him in college, so many sacks given up Florida has a great offense did they? I get it people want to buy into this guy but until he proves me wrong I have doubts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Until you see illegal use of hands or holding flags directed at him. 0 penalties in 2022 …he grabs and slams occasionally but that’s workable 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: That. Cant get out on the move that well. He can push straight ahead well, but is soft if he has to move laterally. Plus I dont like how that Florida team played so not high on players coming out of there. I dunno. I dont want to bag on the kid too bad. I'm cheering for him now that he is a Bill. Just wish the draft went differently. That's really fair. I too have some serious question marks about Torrance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Cody Ford 2.0 🥸 I’m hoping he is what they wanted Ford to be…hoping this works out, yet seems like a weird scheme fit. Either way, welcome aboard o’cyrus! Go Bills! 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: he took several steps in any direction? That’s more than some here advertise him capable of Could be Cody ford, could be great. Glad we took a viable swing. Cody Ford isn’t worthy to be mentioned in the same sentence 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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