Rodgers Traded to Jets Officially

[teef]

who officially is the most scared?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

18 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

I especially like the "Mac is ahead of all of them" comment.

 

That's a typo.  He discovered ganja, to help him cope with the last Raiders game.  It's supposed to read:

"Mac is a 'head' of all of them."

#DrDawkinstein  

did you get this run of T-shirts made yet?!

Edited April 25, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[RiotAct]

13 minutes ago, teef said:

who officially is the most scared?

I’ve already given up on the season.

[Bookie Man]

Reunited with Hackett. WATCH OUT. 

 

🤓

[Mister Defense]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

 

I think too much is made of Rodgers relationship with the media. Rodgers "fights back" with the media all the time over the years. Has it affected his play? Guy is one of the best to do it and he is a slam dunk HOF in his first year of eligibility. Rodgers doesn't let the media affect his play. Never has and never will.

 

Kind of funny how that seems to be the opposite of Rodgers personality! He obsesses over the media's coverage of him unlike any NFL quarterback in my lifetime.

 

His focus and consternation with the media has significantly impacted him as a player and leader, in my view.

 

He takes all criticism personally.

 

He throws his teammates and coaches under the bus to re-direct any criticism of him or the team's performance.

 

And he seems to be obsessed with the media's coverage of him, consistently. He brings it up all of the time, often un-prompted.

 

Playing quarterback in the NFL is an extremely demanding job with the light always shining on you.  At 40, with his skills on the decline, he needed to have his eyes on the prize--not the media's coverage of him. Instead, he constantly defended himself and attacked others in response.

 

I would say in fact that Rodgers', probably more than any other quarterback in the NFL, seems to obsess over the media's coverage of him. And he let's it get to him, personally, professionally.

 

That will be greatly exasperated by the media in his new playing town.

 

 

Edited April 25, 2023 by Mister Defense

[teef]

9 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

I’ve already given up on the season.

this is the best move.

[dollars 2 donuts]

He should have a pretty good year with the Jets.  I am of two minorities here:

 

I think the Jets are a pretty good team and save for some injuries might have squeezed into the playoffs...I like their nastiness; and

 

I also actually think Tua is a pretty good QB whose obvious injuries last year got the best of him.

 

That said Buffalo should still win the division, but I think it is going to be close.  We could be looking at 3 teams being separated by a staggering of 12-11-10 wins, or even closer.

 

...no...New England will not be one of those three teams.

 

 

[mannc]

7 hours ago, buffalo2218 said:

Not really concerned about Rodgers with the Jets. One thing to remember is that Rodgers has had the benefit of playing in a weak division for a long time. This division minus New England is probably the most competitive division he's played in in years. If there are those that think he didn't drop off last season or that it don't matter? Just because Brady played well in his 40s doesn't mean Rodgers will duplicate that same success. And for those that are putting the Jets defense on a pedestal, Quinnen Williams is pounding the table for more money and is already threatening to hold out. And he's their biggest playmaker on the D line.

 

I may sound homerish but there is merit to all of this. For what the Jets gave up to get Rodgers, they better be SB contenders right off the bat and I'm just not seeing it. Because once Rodgers is gone, they're gonna end up right back where they started, QB purgatory. Either that or they'll go the way of Indy and just sign has beens and go back to 4-13 seasons

Agreed.

 I think the Packers played this just right.  They got the most out of Rodgers that they could, and then managed to acquire some very nice draft capital for him on the way out the door.  NE got nothing when Brady left, and he probably had a lot more left in the tank than Rodgers does.

Edited April 25, 2023 by mannc

[dollars 2 donuts]

24 minutes ago, mannc said:

Agreed.

 I think the Packers played this just right.  They got the most out of Rodgers that they could, and then managed to acquire some very nice draft capital for him on the way out the door.  NE got nothing when Brady left, and he probably had a lot more left in the tank than Rodgers does.

 

 

I could not agree with that more.  Got a lot out of him and still traded him towards the end for reasonably good value.

 

Good move.  Actually, I believe a good move for both teams.

 

 

[Heavy Kevi]

This is exactly what the Bills needed!

 

The team was clearly mentally weak last year. I know "everything happened" last year but hearing Josh cry and say that God is real because of a kickoff runback... Reminds you how young he is.

 

This team needs a reason to "get up" for games, since after our regular season chiefs game, it was all downhill from there (and not in a good way).

 

Jets could easily win the division... It's probably a coin toss right now. And if fins wimpy QB actually stays healthy they can make noise.

 

All in all even if it means a couple down years, Josh and this team needs a wakeup call, and to get more mentally resilient. Because last year their attitude belonged in the kiddy pool.

[dollars 2 donuts]

12 minutes ago, Heavy Kevi said:

This is exactly what the Bills needed!

 

The team was clearly mentally weak last year. I know "everything happened" last year but hearing Josh cry and say that God is real because of a kickoff runback... Reminds you how young he is.

 

This team needs a reason to "get up" for games, since after our regular season chiefs game, it was all downhill from there (and not in a good way).

 

Jets could easily win the division... It's probably a coin toss right now. And if fins wimpy QB actually stays healthy they can make noise.

 

All in all even if it means a couple down years, Josh and this team needs a wakeup call, and to get more mentally resilient. Because last year their attitude belonged in the kiddy pool.

 

 

 

Down with God and up with Rodgers as motivation is a weird flex, but hey, to each his own.  

 

We all walk our own path.  I just love the view on mine and the way it makes me feel, but it may not be for everybody.

 

May you all find peace.

 

Go Bills!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 25, 2023 by dollars 2 donuts

[DrDawkinstein]

Time for the Bills to re-sign Arthur Moats!

[dollars 2 donuts]

48 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

you missed his point. 

He wasn't down on God at all, he was saying it was a sign of Allen's youth that he thinks God cares about a football game. 

 

You win by out-executing the opponent, period.

 

The Bills lost their edge trying to out-pray and out-sad opponents down the stretch last year. Now he is hopeful that since that strategy didn't work and the opponents are going to make it even more difficult, the team will look internally to get their competitive edge back

 

 

 

 

I didn't miss his point.

 

I think that Allen's youth has nothing to do with it.  I think, when we face adversity, especially with life threatening ones of those close to  us, you handle it in different ways...and you see signs, for whatever the reason.

 

The things that rally us for the better are what we make of them.  That is what it meant to Josh.  Some people...I know this is crazy for some of you...are rallied by and get strength by their faith, regardless of the events that brought them to that conclusion.

 

I most certainly don't look at it as something that made Josh and the team "mentally weak."

 

...nor do I view his tears that way.  Quite the contrary.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 25, 2023 by dollars 2 donuts

[Lane Meyer K12]

The Jets just got a lot better. The division is going to be tough. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

3 minutes ago, Lane Meyer K12 said:

The Jets just got a lot better. The division is going to be tough. 

 

 

14 words.  Pretty accurate.  Man, I think this is going to be so darn fun.

 

"language lessons...inspired words, from a man, who knows how to ski."

 

 

Edited April 25, 2023 by dollars 2 donuts

[Radar]

3 minutes ago, Lane Meyer K12 said:

The Jets just got a lot better. The division is going to be tough. 

I predict a real horse race between Bills,Miami and Jets. At this moment I think Jets will get edge favorite to start season. Go Bills!

Edited April 25, 2023 by Radar

[Captain Hindsight]

3 minutes ago, Radar said:

I predict a real horse race between Bills,Miami and Jets. At this moment I think Jets will get edge favorite to start season. Go Bills!

Why? The Bills won 13 games last year and lost 3 by a combined 8 points. This team is elite. Jets have proven nothing and Rodgers is 40 years old coming off a down year.

 

They are a much better team, but crowning them is extremely premature 

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

If you want to crown them then crown them !!!

 

[CincyBillsFan]

8 hours ago, Airseven said:

Bills could barely survive the Jets with Wilson. This move puts the Jets into the Chiefs/Bengals tier. 

The Bills lost to Jacksonville in 2021 - S$$T happens.

 

The Jets finished six and a half games behind the Bills in the East last season. And that includes the Jets stealing a game from the Bills in NY & Cleveland on the road.

 

Do you think the Jets will sweep the Bills next season?

 

As for equating the Jets to the Chiefs/Bengals because of Rogers I call that nuts.  SF had a SB contending team that had a deep playoff run in spite of having a rookie playing QB the last half of the season.   They did this because they had a SB level roster & coaching.  The Eagles won a SB with the mediocre Nick Foles at QB because they had a SB level roster & coaching.  The Jets went 7 - 10 with QB issues so where is the evidence that they have a SB level roster & coaching?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ClemsonBills]

26 minutes ago, Heavy Kevi said:

This is exactly what the Bills needed!

 

The team was clearly mentally weak last year. I know "everything happened" last year but hearing Josh cry and say that God is real because of a kickoff runback... Reminds you how young he is.

 

This team needs a reason to "get up" for games, since after our regular season chiefs game, it was all downhill from there (and not in a good way).

 

Jets could easily win the division... It's probably a coin toss right now. And if fins wimpy QB actually stays healthy they can make noise.

 

All in all even if it means a couple down years, Josh and this team needs a wakeup call, and to get more mentally resilient. Because last year their attitude belonged in the kiddy pool.

Probably shouldn't waste my time replying to a garbage post, but I'll bite. You're understanding of mentally weak, is flawed. 

[CNY315]

So they won the offseason again?

[Radar]

9 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Why? The Bills won 13 games last year and lost 3 by a combined 8 points. This team is elite. Jets have proven nothing and Rodgers is 40 years old coming off a down year.

 

They are a much better team, but crowning them is extremely premature 

Disagree, but that's alright. We're a very good team but not elite. Jets very good as well now with a quarterback. Better defensively than us in my opinion. We'll see.

[CincyBillsFan]

Just now, CNY315 said:

So they won the offseason again?

Yep.  Remember how during the lost decades the Bills often won the off season.

 

 

[machine gun kelly]

I’m just glad this is over.  They have enough away to risk their draft capital this year and the next.

 

Theyll be competitive from their last two years drafts, so it will be a competition with us for sure. More than Miami as I’m still not sold on Tua.  He’s been ok, but that’s a lot of concussions in one year.

[May Day 10]

Its a good move for the Jets, and probably a good move for the Packers.

 

It is a risk, losing the picks and delaying the QB search for a year or so... but they need to go for it now.  Last year they had the look of a team poised to make some noise.  If Rodgers can get back to form, they are going to make the playoffs and can win playoff games.  If I am a Bills fan and they had a similar situation with the drought... I would want them to do this all day (I was excited for Rex Ryan too).

 

You do run the risk of Rodgers rodgering.  A volatile franchise in a viscous media market.  

 

I Rodgers is a 1-and-done, recent history shows there is a rolling availability of competent quarterbacks

[PatsFanNH]

IMO this is the Jats pushing everything all in to win a SB this year, because he is maybe a 2 year answer then back to QB hell. I see them falling short against KC or even perhaps the  Bills… but if I was a fan I’d be all for it. 

[Franco_92]

10 hours ago, Billl said:

There’s a lot of grown men trying to pretend that Rodgers somehow doesn’t make the Jets a real contender to win the division.  The Jets have a hell of a roster, and they just added a QB who has been MVP in two of the past three seasons.  The Bills are still favorites to win the East, but Vegas only has them as them at about a 40% chance.  I realize that half of this board believes that only the Bills have good players, but Aaron Rodgers is pretty good IMO.

True but disingenuous. He would have placed 300th in mvp voting in the year that is most relevant in the discussion of a 40 year old - last year. He was bad to mediocre for the vast majority of that season. I watched probably 7 packers games and it was a miserable experience 

[dollars 2 donuts]

34 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

Actually I am very motivated by faith in my daily life. But it doesn't help score touchdowns against Cincinnati in the playoffs.

 

And.. to the original point, it didn't help Micah Hyde run that kick back, the 10 guys blocking for him did. It wasn't divine intervention. It was just good solid special teams play

 

 

 

 

 

 

SUNY, please know this first and foremost.  I commented about the comment or statement.

 

Please do not perceive it at all (and I don't believe you have, but I just want to get it out there) that I was judging your faith.  THAT is way, way above my pay grade.

 

However, my comment was more about how Josh views his faith, or the way he sees the world, or the messages or cues he takes from it.

 

Which I also stand by my point made in the combined posts above about it.  I do not believe it to be a weakness, as was stated in your original post.

 

You are 100% correct about the fact that it was Hines and those 10 guys blocking for him.  We just view what "may" have motivated them to do their jobs, in that particular instance...in that moment and given what they all had recently experienced, a little differently.

 

Go Bills.

 

 

Edited April 25, 2023 by dollars 2 donuts

[PatsFanNH]

4 minutes ago, arcane said:

True but disingenuous. He would have placed 300th in mvp voting in the year that is most relevant in the discussion of a 40 year old - last year. He was bad to mediocre for the vast majority of that season. I watched probably 7 packers games and it was a miserable experience 

True! But it was also his first year without a top WR in well ages.  So IMO part of that could have been him adapting to not having Adams to throw to.  I think most QBs struggle when losing their top WR and his best WR in GB was out a lot last year. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

I think you're all missing the very valid point that Zach Wilson is going to be making Aaron Rodgers' life miserable every day at practice...😇

[NoHuddleKelly12]

1 hour ago, Heavy Kevi said:

This is exactly what the Bills needed!

 

The team was clearly mentally weak last year. I know "everything happened" last year but hearing Josh cry and say that God is real because of a kickoff runback... Reminds you how young he is.

 

This team needs a reason to "get up" for games, since after our regular season chiefs game, it was all downhill from there (and not in a good way).

 

Jets could easily win the division... It's probably a coin toss right now. And if fins wimpy QB actually stays healthy they can make noise.

 

All in all even if it means a couple down years, Josh and this team needs a wakeup call, and to get more mentally resilient. Because last year their attitude belonged in the kiddy pool.

Respectfully, Josh making the statements he did, just might be a sign of a maturing sense of something more than the immediate day to day here on earth, imho. Hardly kiddy pool stuff! 

[dollars 2 donuts]

2 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

Hines not Hyde, yeah whoops

 

 

 

 

Now THAT, my friend, would have been a nice miracle!

 

😂

 

We all knew who you meant.

 

✌️

 

 

 

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

12 hours ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

Quoted for truth.

 

I remember everyone telling me how awful Tua was, then he went out and beat the Bills while concussed. 

 

*Look at the reactions.  Truth hurts, don't it.  

Tua didn't beat the Bills that game.

 

He made precisely two big plays. The Bills offense puked all over themselves, literally

 

[Heavy Kevi]

13 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Respectfully, Josh making the statements he did, just might be a sign of a maturing sense of something more than the immediate day to day here on earth, imho. Hardly kiddy pool stuff! 

 

I'm definitely not talking down about religion. People can believe whatever they want. 

 

But it seems very immature to me to attribute things like Hines runback to "miracles" as it seems he was alluding to. I'll tell you that my late very Catholic grandma would be upset if somebody prayed for or expected God to take a side in sports matches. She'd say you can pray for your health etc but not to win the game and things like that; as God doesn't take sides (other than the obvious biblical good v evil)

 

I would def say the fact that the team was in emotional freefall is kiddy pool stuff. The fact is just about everyone experiences hardy amounts of adversity, and as the saying goes "it's not how hard you hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and still get back up". They did not get back up last year, and that's what I'm hoping some competitive motivation will provide.

 

That's the spirit of my post and not to disparage religion. And even though I think that's pretty obvious from just reading it, clearly not everyone read it that way.

[hondo in seattle]

44 minutes ago, Radar said:

Disagree, but that's alright. We're a very good team but not elite. Jets very good as well now with a quarterback. Better defensively than us in my opinion. We'll see.

 

We looked like an elite team the first half of the season.  Not the second half.  Wonder which Bills squad shows up this season.  

[BADOLBILZ]

 

From ESPN Bill Barnwell trade grade article:

 

In addition, the deal doesn't appear to offer retirement protections for the Jets. This is an oversimplification, but the Jets very conceivably might be paying a second-round pick (in 2023), a first-round pick (in 2024) and $59.5 million in exchange for one year of Aaron Rodgers.

 

That is a lot.

 

The Jets have a good roster. But it's not that good that they should make this kind of investment in what might be a one-year gamble.

Trading for Rodgers was a fine plan. But the Jets gave up too much.

 

Jets' grade: C

Packers' grade: A-

 

 

I agree completely with that.  

[Sestak4ever]

3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

From ESPN Bill Barnwell trade grade article:

 

In addition, the deal doesn't appear to offer retirement protections for the Jets. This is an oversimplification, but the Jets very conceivably might be paying a second-round pick (in 2023), a first-round pick (in 2024) and $59.5 million in exchange for one year of Aaron Rodgers.

 

That is a lot.

 

The Jets have a good roster. But it's not that good that they should make this kind of investment in what might be a one-year gamble.

Trading for Rodgers was a fine plan. But the Jets gave up too much.

 

Jets' grade: C

Packers' grade: A-

 

 

I agree completely with that.  

As I stated earlier I believe the Jets gave up way too much. Short sighted on their part.

[Chicken Boo]

15 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Tua didn't beat the Bills that game.

 

He made precisely two big plays. The Bills offense puked all over themselves, literally

 

 

He was the QB of the Dolphins who won the game.  He beat the Bills.

[C.Biscuit97]

10 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Is that a fact? Diggs is in a league of his own. Corey Davis and Gabe Davis are the same caliber of player. Allen Lazard is fine. Mecole Hardman, fine. Meh. They're maybe equally talented WR corps with opposite problems - the Bills don't have enough good talent behind Diggs, the Jets have a lot of good talent but nothing top tier (unless Garrett Wilson steps into that stratosphere this season, which is possible).

 

The Jets defense is for real. But people are way overrating the talent they have on offense. Still question marks on the OL, they don't have a true difference maker in their skill positions, Breece Hall may not be the same player until 2024. It isn't a totally solid group. Just a lot of potential with a wild card at QB.

I forgot about Moore, who I really like getting traded. Still, I think their group is better. Diggs is definitely the best but Wilson put up a 1,000 with garbage. I think Lazard is better than Davis, who I like more than most. Corey Davis has had his moments and Hardman (who some Bills fans love hyping up to put down Mahomes) is meh but I’d take him as our 4. 
 

now, if we pick up a guy, it can switch. But either way, it’s a better group than he had in GB and all the wrs in NJ are going to be better without the milf hunter holding them back.

[ColoradoBills]

11 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

Let the Jets draw some fire with this move. 

 

I agree.  The Jets will be talked about ad nauseum all this off season.  The NY media will be all over "everything Jets".  It's up to Rodgers and the 

rest of the Jets team to perform to what no doubt will be Superbowl expectations.  The pressure is on them to perform.  Bills will be back under

the radar.

 

10 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Are you suggesting that spending a 1st and 2nd round pick PLUS elite starter money (maybe not actually elite starter money for the Jets after all, in 2023 alone at least*) to simply "get better" is wise? You only make this move to try and win a championship while some young, elite roster pieces are affordable enough to allow for it. 

 

*a quick review of Rodgers on Spotrac has me wondering if his deal is actually pretty workable for the Jets (not being on the hook for his signing bonus), or if those annual option bonuses still make it financially constraining. I don't know the status of his 2023 option bonus (can be paid/activated from March 17 through week one). Maybe that complicates the otherwise ridiculous ~$15M cap hit?

 

I'm not sure either.  I follow the money on Spotrac pretty close and understand almost all the contracts.  Not sure about this one and that

2023 and 2024 Option Bonus's.  I was hoping for a tweet from someone would clear it up.