Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Billl said: The interesting part IMO is that they don’t think the Bills win the division. I don't see that in the article or at the current odds on draft kings. Buffalo +135 then Jets the next at +240 Edit, i saw your last post. I see what you are saying now. Less than even odds to win the division but still the favorite. Kind of confusing how you word it though because certainly they think the Bills win the division over any of the other teams. Edited March 27, 2023 by Sammy Watkins' Rib 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 hour ago, ProcessTruster said: this years predictions just about as useful as last years' zzz They have Miami and the Jets at 9.5 wins. The Pats at 7.5. What a competetive division. 1 hour ago, Gregg said: Division is a lot tougher. Road games at KC, CIN, PHIL. NFCE is pretty tough as well. I would say 10 is the floor, 12 the ceiling. I will guess 11-6. I think the floor is a little lower than 10 wins. 11-6 is realistic too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: They have Miami and the Jets at 9.5 wins. The Pats at 7.5. What a competetive division. I think the floor is a little lower than 10 wins. 11-6 is realistic too. Maybe. I think the Bills will do well at home. They do have 9 home games this year. Say they go 7-2 at OP. I could see 3-5 on the road to reach 10 wins. I do see your point especially if the injury bug hits them again. I also see a losing road record this year. That road schedule is brutal, so the Bills better do well at home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 12 hours ago, Billsflyer12 said: The schedule is insane, one of hardest I’ve ever seen. As of now I had them at 9 or 10, so 10.5 seems about right. Eh, the road schedule is indeed very difficult but the home slate looks extremely weak. Obviously would like the tougher opponents to come to Buffalo, but overall I think it is manageable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 13 hours ago, Billl said: The over is -140. Basically, Vegas thinks they’re an 11-6 team which seems exactly right to me. The interesting part IMO is that they don’t think the Bills win the division. The division is going to much tougher, as is the schedule in general, I think. 11-6 or even 10-7 is a realistic possibility 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Punching Bag Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 If I did Sports Betting I'd put money on the over. I have never placed a bet with a bookie, legal or otherwise, in my life. No lottery tickets other than occasional one my wife purchased for "luck". Gambling is not a vice for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 14 hours ago, Einstein said: They see what’s going on, even if some fans want to ignore it. - Miami has gotten a lot better this off-season. Fangio alone was a huge get. Add in Ramsey, who even if overrated is better than what they had, and Long who a good downhill thumping LB, and it’s gotten harder to beat them. - The Jets beat us with that 18 year old they have at QB. Their defense is incredible. Not fake incredible like Mcd/Frazier’s. But actually incredible. They add Rodgers and things get real sticky. Rodgers would could put up only 20ppg and they would still likely make the playoffs. They have us #3 in Super Bowl odds. They see what's going on and still have us as 3rd in Super Bowl odds. https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/super-bowl-prop-bets--odds?wpsrc=Organic Search&wpaffn=Google&wpkw=https%3A%2F%2Fsportsbook.draftkings.com%2Fsuper-bowl-prop-bets--odds&wpcn=super-bowl-prop-bets--odds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: They have us #3 in Super Bowl odds. They see what's going on and still have us as 3rd in Super Bowl odds. https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/super-bowl-prop-bets--odds?wpsrc=Organic Search&wpaffn=Google&wpkw=https%3A%2F%2Fsportsbook.draftkings.com%2Fsuper-bowl-prop-bets--odds&wpcn=super-bowl-prop-bets--odds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: LOL. Do you think the Chiefs and the Bengals would be in the top 3 in Super Bowl odds if Mahomes and Burrow went down? Also we are tied with the Bengals for Super Bowl odds and they are just a much better team according to you. Does DraftKings know what's going on there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: LOL. Do you think the Chiefs and the Bengals would be in the top 3 in Super Bowl odds if Mahomes and Burrow went down? Also we are tied with the Bengals for Super Bowl odds and they are just a much better team according to you. Does DraftKings know what's going on there? Sounds like Vegas is trying to get the low hanging fruit. We were favored in the Bengals playoff game too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Einstein said: Sounds like Vegas is trying to get the low hanging fruit. We were favored in the Bengals playoff game too. So again in your mind. Draftkings knows what they're talking about when they list the Bills at 10.5 wins. They see what's going on!! But.... Draftkings has the Bills at #3 in Super Bowl odds. It must be low hanging fruit. Are the Bengals low hanging fruit? I'm guessing you're going to say no. I'm guessing in your mind the Bengals are legit in the odds but definitely not the Bills. LOL...you are such a scorned fan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: LOL...you are such a scorned fan. You're just figuring this out? lol. Of course I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: You're just figuring this out? lol. Of course I am. Okay you finally admitted why you're not reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Okay you finally admitted why you're not reasonable. I've admitted i'm a scorned fan many times. But I don't think im unreasonable at all. 60+ years without a lombardi. My patience is thin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Einstein said: I've admitted i'm a scorned fan many times. But I don't think im unreasonable at all. 60+ years without a lombardi. My patience is thin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 14 hours ago, newcam2012 said: Have to agree. I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills don't win the division. On paper, the Dolphins are better than the Bills except at QB. Adding Rodgers to the Jets clearly puts them right there vs Buffalo. Both of this teams have no fear or intimation vs Buffalo. After last year, I believe they are confident they can beat the Bills. Not sure they felt that way in several years. A belief in winning and taking the next step is crucial for the chasing teams. The bills were without Poter, Hyde and white in. The defensive backfield. They were without Vonn in the 2nd half. If the bills defense stays healthy I see them dominating again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaDigital Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 15 hours ago, Einstein said: They see what’s going on, even if some fans want to ignore it. - Miami has gotten a lot better this off-season. Fangio alone was a huge get. Add in Ramsey, who even if overrated is better than what they had, and Long who a good downhill thumping LB, and it’s gotten harder to beat them. - The Jets beat us with that 18 year old they have at QB. Their defense is incredible. Not fake incredible like Mcd/Frazier’s. But actually incredible. They add Rodgers and things get real sticky. Rodgers would could put up only 20ppg and they would still likely make the playoffs. incredible isnt it? most fans around here are stuck on "almost" beating KC in the playoffs a few years back. This isn't that team anymore, and the rest of the AFCE is no longer a door-mat. Some need to take the rose colored glasses off. Allen keeps regressing without daboll, were looking at 3rd place in the division. Hope im super wrong, Allen elevates, McD calls a much better defense than frazier, and the Hype surrounding miami is booty. We could be in for a pretty disappointing year, pending the draft and remainer of FA. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 16 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: I got the Bills at 12-5 right now. Let's see how the draft goes.... I think that is fair. To me 11-6 or 12-5 is about right. The schedule is pretty brutal and truthfully getting to 13 or 14 wins you need a little luck factored in along the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 14 hours ago, newcam2012 said: Both of this teams have no fear or intimation vs Buffalo. After last year, I believe they are confident they can beat the Bills. Not sure they felt that way in several years. A belief in winning and taking the next step is crucial for the chasing teams. I am just going to point out that fear and intimation means nothing until you win the games. Miami if Tua was healthy I think would've been 11-6 maybe 12-5 and finished right on our heals. But regardless this reminds me of drought talk on how the team had improved and the Patriots looked weaker etc... and then the games happened. I certainly think the Jets are improved with Rodgers then without him and Miami IF Tua is healthy has a good shot. There are no easy division crowns, 2020 was blip against the norm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 15 hours ago, newcam2012 said: Have to agree. I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills don't win the division. On paper, the Dolphins are better than the Bills except at QB. Adding Rodgers to the Jets clearly puts them right there vs Buffalo. Both of this teams have no fear or intimation vs Buffalo. After last year, I believe they are confident they can beat the Bills. Not sure they felt that way in several years. A belief in winning and taking the next step is crucial for the chasing teams. Miami split with New England like almost 50/50 between 2013 and 2019 before Brady left and made the playoffs one year. They split with us this past year and didn't win the division. The idea that we are doomed or they aren't scared of us because they can win one game is hugely overstated. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 11 hours ago, ganesh said: The bills were without Poter, Hyde and white in. The defensive backfield. They were without Vonn in the 2nd half. If the bills defense stays healthy I see them dominating again Come playoff time how will the Bills defense play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 12 hours ago, Einstein said: Sounds like Vegas is trying to get the low hanging fruit. We were favored in the Bengals playoff game too. I think it's pretty safe to say that Vegas made a nice profit off of the Bills odds to win the Super Bowl. People seem to forget that Vegas is a machine to manipulate odds and numbers so they can make profits. There odds for a Super Bowl favorite to win it all are very poor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/26/2023 at 3:02 PM, Billl said: The over is -140. Basically, Vegas thinks they’re an 11-6 team which seems exactly right to me. The interesting part IMO is that they don’t think the Bills win the division. Fine me one single book that doesn't have the Bills as favorites to win the division Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 They have KC, Cincy, and SanFran at 11.5 wins Bills, Eagles, Jax, at 10.5 Dallas, Cleveland, NOLA, Jets, Dolphins, Chargers, and Lions at 9.5 For some perspective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 13 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: LOL. Do you think the Chiefs and the Bengals would be in the top 3 in Super Bowl odds if Mahomes and Burrow went down? Also we are tied with the Bengals for Super Bowl odds and they are just a much better team according to you. Does DraftKings know what's going on there? DraftKings is no Einstein and would not be in business if they were. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 17 hours ago, KingBoots8 said: We lost our 3 games last season by a combined total of 8 points. One of which was due to heat exhaustion wearing half our team out. Another was a bad snap. The Jets game was an “Any Given Sunday” fluke. I’ll take the over, please. Agree on the 3 games, but it just doesn’t have anything to do with what happens in 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 the over looks good to me.....i like 12-5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 32 minutes ago, papazoid said: the over looks good to me.....i like 12-5 Stick a couple of grand on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 It looks right on where I would put them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said: It looks right on where I would put them I like the under. Personally, I don't really like these future bets. So many unknown variables such as key injuries can really effect the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 10.5 from 11.5 is more about the Jets going from 5.5 last year to 9.5 this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, Gregg said: Maybe. I think the Bills will do well at home. They do have 9 home games this year. Say they go 7-2 at OP. I could see 3-5 on the road to reach 10 wins. I do see your point especially if the injury bug hits them again. I also see a losing road record this year. That road schedule is brutal, so the Bills better do well at home. One of those home games is in Europe. FYI. Edited March 28, 2023 by The Wiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 6 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Fine me one single book that doesn't have the Bills as favorites to win the division Find me one that doesn’t pay more than even money for them winning. Just because they’re the favorites doesn’t mean they’re favored over the field. The Jaguars, Chiefs, and 49ers are the only teams who have a better than 50-50 shot at winning their divisions. Last year at this time, the Bills were on that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 That is a very fair line looking at our schedule and knowing we have no one at MLB and likely won’t have Von in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Locomark said: That is a very fair line looking at our schedule and knowing we have no one at MLB and likely won’t have Von in September. Nobody sets lines based on MLB. We’ve been bizarrely trained to feel like any hole on the Defense is some gigantic issue. The only pieces on a defense that, maybe, move the needle the slightest bit are a lockdown corner and elite pass rusher. That’s it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 11 hours ago, newcam2012 said: Come playoff time how will the Bills defense play? I'm concerned with the regular season defense. The front 7 looks poor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: Nobody sets lines based on MLB. We’ve been bizarrely trained to feel like any hole on the Defense is some gigantic issue. The only pieces on a defense that, maybe, move the needle the slightest bit are a lockdown corner and elite pass rusher. That’s it. But the combo on no Von and 50% of our LBs being an unknown is a big deal. I didn’t call it gigantic, but it’s worth a game off the line. We could easily go 11-6 next year. We went 4-2 in the division last year and our division is better and we may be worse. If we go 3-3 in our division, which is possible, that’s still 8-3 against everyone else. Edited March 28, 2023 by Locomark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Adding Dhop would instantly make us a 12 win team. Who disagrees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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