BobbyC81 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Posted on Steelers Wire on USAToday.com: ”Isaiah McKenzie is the veteran slot WR the Steelers need”. 😂 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/17/steelers-bills-nfl-iaiah-mckenzie/ "Isaiah McKenzie is the veteran slot WR the Steelers need The Pittsburgh Steelers have a strong tandem of outside wide receivers in Diontae Johnson and George Pickens. What the Steelers are lacking is a slot receiver who can be a consistent threat in the passing game. With the news the Buffalo Bills had released wide receiver Isaiah McKenzie, a player is not [sic] available who could fill that role perfectly for the Steelers. McKenzie saw multiple career highs in 2022. McKenzie started eight games and finished with 42 receptions for 423 yards and five total touchdowns. McKenzie has also proven to be a talented kick and punt returner when called upon to do so. The Steelers currently have Steven Sims Jr. as a restricted free agent and Pittsburgh did not tender him. The Steelers also have Gunner Olszewski who the Steelers could save $2 million by cutting him. We would much rather see the Steelers sign McKenzie, let Sims and Olszewski leave and then draft a fourth receiver in the middle rounds of the 2023 NFL draft. Let us know in the comments if you would like to see Pittsburgh try to sign McKenzie." Edited March 18, 2023 by chongli 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 I see enough stupid in this forum. Why invite other teams stupid to it? 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 They'll find out the hard way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) I mean, they had so much success signing Trubisky and Levi Wallace from the Bills last year, so......... Edited March 18, 2023 by Special K 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) If they wanted a good slot WR they should've kept one of the best return men in Ryan Switzer...he was a real Switz Army Knife Edited March 18, 2023 by Sherlock Holmes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 McKenzie isn't a bad player. He could go to a lesser team and be a reasonable player for them. He just isn't good enough for a superbowl contender like the Bills other than for the occasional package. Maybe he could go to the Steelers and do alright. 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Monkeyhead Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) McKenzie in the Steelers offense from last year……..huge addition if used the right way. why is every fat ass no talent fan always so quick to criticize any nfl player as not being good enough? they are in the nfl……any player in the nfl is good enough. Let’s see any of you do a 1/16th of what Mckenzie can. fandumb lol Edited March 18, 2023 by UncleMonkeyHead 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 27 minutes ago, UncleMonkeyHead said: McKenzie in the Steelers offense from last year……..huge addition if used the right way. why is every fat ass no talent fan always so quick to criticize any nfl player as not being good enough? they are in the nfl……any player in the nfl is good enough. Let’s see any of you do a 1/16th of what Mckenzie can. fandumb lol McKenzie is extremely talented but might not fit what we are looking for now .., post WR FA signing he is very talented with the ball in his hands , a very good kick returner and a solid punt returner his route running has not developed as much which is left us needing more at the 3-4 as a receiver he’s a great team player and a great fit for Pitt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortchaz Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 2 hours ago, UncleMonkeyHead said: McKenzie in the Steelers offense from last year……..huge addition if used the right way. why is every fat ass no talent fan always so quick to criticize any nfl player as not being good enough? they are in the nfl……any player in the nfl is good enough. Let’s see any of you do a 1/16th of what Mckenzie can. fandumb lol I think everyone understands that criticism of players is made in the relative nfl world. What McKenzie makes in his next contract will reflect where he ranks in the NFL. he didn’t get the job done here in critical situations and the bills are exploring other options, I.e. wasn’t good enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) His problem is catching the football consistently, same as Gabe. We need the good hands people because last year was ridiculous. It just killed the offense. I wish McKenzie well in Pittsburgh ....I recommend a 4 year deal, 50 mil. Edited March 18, 2023 by HOUSE 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) Pittsburgh probably has too many 'sauerkraut und schnitzel' joints. BBQ might elevate the place. 🤔 Edited March 18, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 FFS. Short form of sauerkraut gets censored?! 🤨 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Let him drop a pass that so gratuitously lands right in a defender's hands a couple times. They'll be looking to tie a couple cinderblocks to his feet and dump him in one of the three rivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, BobbyC81 said: Posted on Steelers Wire on USAToday.com: ”Isaiah McKenzie is the veteran slot WR the Steelers need”. 😂 https://arrowheadaddict.com/2023/03/17/chiefs-free-agency-isaiah-mckenzie-enticing-return-option-market/ Quote In his career with the Bills, McKenzie has 137 catches for 1,316 receiving yards and 11 touchdowns, proving he can be a solid receiving option while also serving up special teams value. While the Bills had other options alongside McKenzie, the 27-year-old receiver definitely did the heavy lifting most years on kick and punt returns and even brought a punt back 84 yards for a touchdown in 2020. Now that's genuinely humorous Edited March 18, 2023 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, H2o said: Let him drop a pass that so gratuitously lands right in a defender's hands a couple times. They'll be looking to tie a couple cinderblocks to his feet and dump him in one of the three rivers. No, he'll fit right in. On another note, I always thought Sims had some juice, but assume he's got some other issues since they're not hanging onto him. Edited March 18, 2023 by 4BillsintheBurgh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: His problem is catching the football consistently, same as Gabe. We need the good hands people because last year was ridiculous. It just killed the offense. I wish McKenzie well in Pittsburgh ....I recommend a 4 year deal, 50 mil. I don't suppose their catch % has any meaning for you. Have you found your wallet yet? I don't suppose the names around them on drop % have any meaning for you either https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/receiving_advanced.htm Davis 9.7% just a little better than Darius Slayton 9.9% and a bit worse than Deebo Samuel 9.7% McKenzie 9.6% just a little better than Deebo Samuel and a bit worse than Amari Cooper 9.1% and Courtland Sutton 8.3% Should they have dropped less sure. The Bills as a team had a high drop %. Maybe it has something to do with a QB who doesn't like to throw with touch, especially when it's cold and wet? The biggest offender on the Bills was actually Devin Singletary with 11.5% and a bunch of announcers saying "he's got to catch throws like that", but I never hear him taken to task here 5 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: McKenzie is extremely talented but might not fit what we are looking for now .., post WR FA signing he is very talented with the ball in his hands , a very good kick returner and a solid punt returner his route running has not developed as much which is left us needing more at the 3-4 as a receiver he’s a great team player and a great fit for Pitt I actually thought his route running had developed quite a lot, shows what I know I guess? I think the real problem for him is reading zone D and chosing option routes Also sometimes between him and Gabe Davis, someone was running the wrong route 'cuz too often, they wound up too close together in a way unlikely to be the play design. Can't tell you who (didn't always look to be McKenzie but that's just a guess) Edited March 18, 2023 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, UncleMonkeyHead said: McKenzie in the Steelers offense from last year……..huge addition if used the right way. why is every fat ass no talent fan always so quick to criticize any nfl player as not being good enough? they are in the nfl……any player in the nfl is good enough. Let’s see any of you do a 1/16th of what Mckenzie can. fandumb lol Well... to be fair, you hear stuff from slim ass, some talent fans too. But neither of them can typically do what NFL players can do. Anyone drafted in the NFL (or signed as an UDFA) are at the far upper edge of the bell curve for athleticism in the population. We all know someone who was The Man, the most amazing athlete no one else in the area could keep up with or cover. And sometimes that guy turns out to be Zeke Elliot, but more often that guy can't cut the mustard in DII ball. Been there, seen that. Brandolini's Law aka the "bull#### Asymmetry Principle", applies here: "The amount of energy needed to refute bull#### is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it." So sometimes the criticism is over the top, off base, and ill founded, sure, and those fans would better keep quiet. But fundamentally, in all walks of life, people who can't themselves do it feel free to criticize those who can (project managers, lawyers, teachers, mechanics, plumbers, etc). Do you think, as a principle, that no one should criticize someone else if they can't do it themselves? I can't do concrete work myself. The contractors who repaired our front steps once did an incredibly poor job. I don't think I needed to be a concrete contractor to see that it was poorly done by about half a dozen objective criteria, starting with the fact that the steps were higher at the front than the back when they were done, instead of level or slightly sloped to the front for drainage. I don't think doctors or lawyers or contractors should be above criticism simply because the critics can't do it themselves. You? Same thing - fans should be able to criticize sports figures even if they can't do it themselves. But it's more appropriate if the criticism isn't founded on sweeping generalizations, and has some basis in objective reality. A 5'7" 170 lb WR doesn't stay in the league 6 years by being bad at football. The Bills think they found someone better at what they want McKenzie to do, so they moved on - Time Will Tell. Edited March 18, 2023 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Can hear it now. “ It’s Pickett to a wide open Mackenzie down the sideline-in the end zone, and and and he drops it” the collective fans, “ Fu$&ing Bills” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 hour ago, H2o said: Let him drop a pass that so gratuitously lands right in a defender's hands a couple times. They'll be looking to tie a couple cinderblocks to his feet and dump him in one of the three rivers. See, this is what I meant when I said "hate" was the appropriate descriptive of some Bills fans sentiments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 22 minutes ago, Beck Water said: See, this is what I meant when I said "hate" was the appropriate descriptive of some Bills fans sentiments. I don't hate him at all. I'm talking about what the Steelers' fan reactions would be. That's your delusional assessment. I don't think he's anything more than a gadget player and you can't argue his affinity for untimely drops that somehow seem to find the defenders. He could have stayed, but it doesn't hurt that he's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 hour ago, H2o said: Let him drop a pass that so gratuitously lands right in a defender's hands a couple times. They'll be looking to tie a couple cinderblocks to his feet and dump him in one of the three rivers. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 There is always a use for a guy who has one good game a year, but drops passes regularly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 I'm just glad that he no longer here not that he's not a good person because he was a great "Team" guy but the Bills have this thing for keeping guys around that don't produce as they should & i know i'm beating a dead horse but if Hodgins was given the reps last season that Mckenzie was i think there would have been a better return of the money . That and the WR room may not be in as much of a need as it looks now . Apples to apples the amount of production of the 2 and the possibility if Hodgins would have been given more games to play i think him being 6' 3" tall and 200+ would have been a better choice but that horse has left the stable . I'm sure someone will pick up Mckenzie & he will be used like the Bills did hell Dabol may even pick him up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 hour ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: I work with a few Steelers fans. You think Bills fans are bipolar? Yeah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 One thing I learned about Sean McDermott, players are never really gone, they are just on break. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Pittsburgh probably has too many 'sauerkraut und schnitzel' joints. BBQ might elevate the place. 🤔 It’s gotten ridiculous hasn’t it? I didn’t see the thing censored but i grew up very close to the area , tri state area of Ohio/ w.va/ pa. Area along the Ohio area., so i know the very common, innocuous probable short term for a really common food in that area. It’s not hate speech, every person w common sense knows that. Man, there are some great cooks/ cooking in that area. And absolutely so many great people who take care of their neighbors.. MISS the area now being in Florida . ESP the pristine snow around Christmas as i lived in the country between farms. Grandparents were directly from Czechoslovakia, and they had a tradition of dumplings w sauerkraut on New Year’s Day,,,,was great stuff to grow up on, no fast food or Uber eats in those days. Yeah, I’m sure everybody jumps to slurs immediately when talking about food. 😄. My grandfather who was a coal miner, became mayor of his small town , never missed work, must be rolling over in his grave seeing how soft the country has become. There were so many ethnic communities , and the nicknames and jokes were common and funny and everybody still got along. Miss those days! May Mackenzie enjoy the area if he lands there! Thx for the memories! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Idk. If the Steelers actually play to his strengths unlike what Buffalo did last season then he might still have something left. You know, plays that don’t involve actually catching the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Looks like Bill Belicheck has a sense of humor too: https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-bills-isaiah-mckenzie-release-cut-rumors-new-england-patriots-bill-belichick-free-agency Quote Patriots head coach Bill Belichick is well-versed in McKenzie’s abilities, as well as his versatility. When asked about the Bills’ wideout on Friday, Belichick offered the following insight to reporters: “He's an explosive player,” Belichick said. “Very explosive. [He’s a] Home run guy in the return game and, offensively, he gets the ball in space. He's very quick, elusive, and if he gets a crease, he can make a big play, go all the way. He's a dynamic returner … he's a guy who can break the game open with one play.” Quote While New England recently signed former Kansas City Chiefs wideout JuJu Smith-Schuster, and still employs Kendrick Bourne, the appeal of adding a slot/gadget receiver such as McKenzie may once again be worth a look for New England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 12 hours ago, The Wiz said: I see enough stupid in this forum. Why invite other teams stupid to it? Competition. Coach McD always wants competition so not why not us? I will bet on @Einstein and @Airseven in any challenge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 50 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Looks like Bill Belicheck has a sense of humor too: https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-bills-isaiah-mckenzie-release-cut-rumors-new-england-patriots-bill-belichick-free-agency I would be interested in seeing what variations McKenzie could bring to the 'pulling a Jakobi Meyers' play. Also, New England could use more BBQ joints. Everything now is just 'CHOW-dah'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 I dont know how to embed, but this article says we just gifted the Chargers some stud. https://boltbeat.com/posts/chargers-free-agency-wide-receiver-bills-isaiah-mckenzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 I could see McKenzie wearing the Teal and Orange of the Dolphins next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) After seeing all these out of town media reports, it's either the hardest working player agent in the NFL, or someone needs to check the basement for pods. 🤔 Edited March 18, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 if teams would use little dirty in his most valuable spot. Returning kicks. He would be an asset. he would be great on KO. He already is very good on punt returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 It’s hilarious how bipolar fans are. Last year, especially after the Pats game, fans loved the guy. Now, he sucks. also, what do the stupid Steelers know about receivers??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 13 hours ago, MJS said: McKenzie isn't a bad player. He could go to a lesser team and be a reasonable player for them. He just isn't good enough for a superbowl contender like the Bills other than for the occasional package. Maybe he could go to the Steelers and do alright. Agree. Actually already happened with the guy McKenzie was kept over (Ray Ray Mcleod). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 The only that would shock me is if McKenzie wasn't signed to another team. He's a backup slot guy at worse for a lot of teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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