Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning…. so far it all holds up. sucks we could’ve had that guy 1 16 12 7 2 13 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning…. so far it all holds up. sucks we could’ve had that guy Lmao just stop in 15 years burrow will be wishing to have Allen’s success don’t doubt the kid from firebaugh 3 1 1 1 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I don’t see Allen as an after thought at all. He was many reporters 1st overall QB entering the season. He was the MVP favorite. We got numerous prime time games because of him. He has a national commercial (gillette). He is playing at Pebble Beach and was in the celebrity golf match with Brady, Rodgers and Mahomes last season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning…. so far it all holds up. sucks we could’ve had that guy Take a screen shot so you can show everyone how right your hot take was. 3 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 C’mon OP. You’re better than this. 1 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning…. so far it all holds up. sucks we could’ve had that guy Hitting the sauce? 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning…. so far it all holds up. sucks we could’ve had that guy Uh no. Who gives a crap what fans think? Edited February 4, 2023 by Big Turk 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Allen is more Favre to me. In some respects they're not totally wrong. Mahomes has proven to be the Michael Jordan of this era. He is a mega-star. Burrow is the processor, the high football IQ, throw to the open man. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning…. so far it all holds up. sucks we could’ve had that guy Step away from the keyboard before you hurt yourself Definitely more farve What people tend to forget about Brett Favre is he was dismissed early in his career whenever he was a falcon. I believe I could be wrong on the team, but basically he wasn’t much thought of. Josh Allen has similar traits similar playing style and had to prove himself just a little bit more than some of these other guys Edited February 4, 2023 by John from Riverside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Allen is more Favre to me. In some respects they're not totally wrong. Mahomes has proven to be the Michael Jordan of this era. He is a mega-star. Burrow is the processor, the high football IQ, throw to the open man. Burrow actually kinda sucks in the playoffs. His stats impress no one. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 These sound like the opinions of simpletons who just regurgitate the sports talking heads, talking point du jour. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: C’mon OP. You’re better than this. Doubt it 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning…. so far it all holds up. sucks we could’ve had that guy What possible value is consensus of your knee jerk opinion and the partisan fans of other teams, about our HOF QB, who has played through a serious elbow injury and came up short when the rest of the team stunk up the field in a snowstorm. Did you consider that Josh is 26 and has been in the playoffs 4 out of 5 years, winning 5 playoff games. What was Rivers and Newton’s records through 5 years? Josh set records for TDs passing and running combined this year with an injury that most QBs would have sat out the rest of the season. Your post is silly and you embarrass yourself with it as a fan of this team. Josh puts this mediocre roster on his back and wins 14 games. Tell the numerous, clueless fans you speak with, those comparisons are insulting to you as a Bills fan , if you really are one. 2 2 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 28 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning…. so far it all holds up. sucks we could’ve had that guy you’re a real… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 30 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Lmao just stop in 15 years burrow will be wishing to have Allen’s success don’t doubt the kid from firebaugh Can he be Big Ben instead? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I think the OP is doing a parody of some sentiments that are out there. I hope that's it. Speaking to that sentiment - fans do it way too much. Allen is Allen. Mahomes is Mahomes. Using the same logic, Burrow is Burrow. Fans & pundits can't resist comparisons and "this guy is the next that guy." No one is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 31 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: C’mon OP. You’re better than this. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 36 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning…. so far it all holds up. sucks we could’ve had that guy Some threads are forgiven on a Friday night. I hope you sleep well. 😋 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Success said: I think the OP is doing a parody of some sentiments that are out there. I hope that's it. Speaking to that sentiment - fans do it way too much. Allen is Allen. Mahomes is Mahomes. Using the same logic, Burrow is Burrow. Fans & pundits can't resist comparisons and "this guy is the next that guy." No one is. Nah op is saying what a bunch of football fans said about the different QBs in the league 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 So far, Allen hasn’t gotten it done, Maholmes IS the unquestioned best, Burrow looks to be #2 at this point and he’s actually taken Maholmes down in their biggest games. Allen has yet to beat Maholmes in a meaningful game. I think Allen is more Farve than Rivers, he’s got that wild man to him, he’s fun to watch, he tries to do it all and his team is built just like GB, all the resources dedicated to anything but weapons on O and there are plenty of teams that are better overall, so he has to be perfect. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 56 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning…. so far it all holds up. sucks we could’ve had that guy You need to broaden out your circle and speak with some people that actually understand football. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 minute ago, ChevyVanMiller said: You need to broaden out your circle and speak with some people that actually understand football. Sure… Educate us? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 52 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Burrow actually kinda sucks in the playoffs. His stats impress no one. Agree, so far, 7 games, 9 TDs. His team averages 22 ppg. He got zero flack for his 2-Ints in the AFCCG. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Lmao just stop in 15 years burrow will be wishing to have Allen’s success don’t doubt the kid from firebaugh You think burrow wishes for zero Super Bowl appearances?he’s already passed that 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Is this the official JA17 is overrated thread? Thank you OP for getting this out of the way. So no more threads of this nature needed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: You think burrow wishes for zero Super Bowl appearances?he’s already passed that I am generally Not hot or cold with takes I believe in my opinion 100% I’d be willing to bet $10,000 right now in Vegas that Josh Allen has more Super Bowl Appearances than burrow when all is said and done Josh with those weapons would be unstoppable… We need to be good to our franchise quarterback Not give him the Rogers treatment 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Josh has already had 3 regular seasons (in a row) better than Rivers best regular season and more playoff success to boot. Where's the comparison ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Allen is more Favre to me. In some respects they're not totally wrong. Mahomes has proven to be the Michael Jordan of this era. He is a mega-star. Burrow is the processor, the high football IQ, throw to the open man. He’s about to lose a second Super Bowl. Jordan?? The Bengals and Burrow choked so hard. That game was theirs - they got out coached and Burrow vomited on himself the last 2 drives. Double team Chris Jones next time. Edited February 4, 2023 by Big Blitz 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Sorry, but this is so dumb. Josh Allen is Josh Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I’d be willing to bet $10,000 right now in Vegas that Josh Allen has more Super Bowl Appearances than burrow when all is said and done Willing to bet means squat, unless, of course you actually did, but like the sentiment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning…. so far it all holds up. sucks we could’ve had that guy He plays more like a Favre or a Steve Young...spectacular plays mixed with disaster. Generally a good dude that his teammates like. Payton Manning has 13 playoff loses, he was 30 years old when he won his first Superbowl...thats alot of attempts, patience 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Just now, I am the egg man said: Willing to bet means squat, unless, of course you actually did, but like the sentiment. I mean I’m a heavy gambler Find me a bookie That Well give me odds on that and I’ll throw down I’ve yet to find anybody that will give me that prop… I’m definitely not betting against Josh I honestly believe the story is just starting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan in MD Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Damn it! I really thought we had something special in #17, but if "numerous fans" say otherwise it may be time to see if Nathan Peterman is still available. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning…. so far it all holds up. sucks we could’ve had that guy I wouldn't just compare him to Rivers.........but I made a similar point here last week...........there are a lot of parallels between these Bills and the Schottenheimer/Turner Chargers for whom Brees and Rivers were the QB's. A LOT of them. Vegas loved those Chargers too, strong regular seasons, lauded rosters, defensive minded "culture" driven HC and of course, the QB whom unnamed GM's would all say "he's going to win a SB in the next few years" and.........then they would fall flat in the playoffs. Those Chargers teams are long since forgotten. One difference though is that Schottenheimer got fired after a season like McDermott had this year...........which didn't work out well for San Diego because Norv Turner was a sloppy HC like Wade Phillips and their program steadily deteriorated.............but part of Schottenheimers firing was likely tied to that being the 3rd culture driven re-build he had overseen and the prior 2 times, in Cleveland and Kansas City, things hadn't gotten better so I believe the Spanos family felt he had proven he simply could finish. Edited February 4, 2023 by BADOLBILZ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Burrow actually kinda sucks in the playoffs. His stats impress no one. Damn it's nice to see someone else say this. I've been saying this since a few weeks before the Monday night matchup. He owes all his postseason success to his defense & to his fg kicker McPherson, who's 19 for 19 on fg attempts in the last 2 years. He got credited and praised for getting the Bengals to the Super Bowl even though his play was absolutely average. Led his offense to only 7 tds in 4 games, Josh did that by the end of game 1 last postseason. 14 fgs in 4 games, he's praised while the team kicks twice as many fgs as they score tds. If that was Josh all you would've heard was Josh Allen can't get it in the endzone when it matters most, on a loop, over and over again. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I mean I’m a heavy gambler Find me a bookie That Well give me odds on that and I’ll throw down I’ve yet to find anybody that will give me that prop… I’m definitely not betting against Josh I honestly believe the story is just starting I am not a heavy gambler imo. My wife would beg to differ, on that and my other life choosings. But never was confident enough to put 10g down, but, if you got it, do it, I’m cheering for you. I get my #’s for my 2g SB square Tues., wife has threatened to leave me over it, going on 15 yrs. Edited February 4, 2023 by I am the egg man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Sure… Educate us? You’ve a turd in your pocket? Not really much of an “us” in this conversation. The “numerous” fans remind me of a girl I dated, lives in the Niagara Falls area. Edited February 4, 2023 by WyoAZBillfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) I'm torn on much of this. I can see the Bills as a chargers like team, always real good but then never gets there. Mahomes has a great coach a great Oline and a generational TE and yes Mahomes is great himself. Burrow has the best WR group in the NFL. He is also really good. Doesn't not get emotional and takes what is given. Allen doesn't have the Oline, the WRs #2 and 3, the TE or the Coach. Allen is just as and if not more talented than the other two, but he does tend to make bad choices often because he feels he needs to compensate for all that the offense lacks. Put Allen on those other teams and we'd be saying the same of those other QBs. Edited February 5, 2023 by Goin Breakdown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) Josh’s career is more like Peyton Manning. Took Manning 9 years to finally get past NE and Pittsburgh. Colts were considered a soft team that was all Manning. Allen having more success than Manning in the 1st 5 years. Manning missed the playoffs 2 times and was eliminated 2 times in the WC round. Rivers took over a top team. Edited February 4, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Just now, I am the egg man said: I’m not a heavy gambler imo. My wife would beg to differ, on that and my other life choosings. But never was confident enough to put 10g down, but, if you got it, do it, I’m cheering for you. I mean I’m not happy about it But I have lost $10,000 in a week in the stock market… I’ve made it I’ve Also done the same gambling I’m usually willing to risk it for the biscuit Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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