Diggs is Tweeting

[Beck Water]

Just now, mrags said:

I saw a tweet yesterday that said he wanted out of buffalo. Thought it was April fools tho 

 

What, from Diggs?  Doubt that 

[mrags]

Just now, Beck Water said:

 

What, from Diggs?  Doubt that 

I don’t remember. But I saw it for sure. Can’t find now 

[Niagara Bill]

Maybe the Vikings were right....some egos are SOOO big they can't fit into a 75,000 seat stadium

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, SUNY_amherst said:

Trade demand in coming 

Yeah, no it’s not

[Warriorspikes51]

How many times do we have to make this clear....  Diggs is messing around 
 

 

 

He probably rolls around laughing reading some of the responses

 

Edited April 3, 2023 by Warriorspikes51

[BillsShredder83]

13 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

How many times do we have to make this clear....  Diggs is messing around 
 

 

 

He probably rolls around laughing reading some of the responses

 

this actually makes me feel better than if he hadnt. if a player actually wanted out they wouldnt be kidding around about it (not that i was overly worried, but this tells me hes fine)

[frostbitmic]

For Wide Receivers, Diggs was ...

 

Receptions - 3rd

Yards - 4th

TDs - Tied for 2nd

 

If you were Josh Allen's #1 target would you want to be traded ?

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

2 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

For Wide Receivers, Diggs was ...

 

Receptions - 3rd

Yards - 4th

TDs - Tied for 2nd

 

If you were Josh Allen's #1 target would you want to be traded ?

 

Even he was upset with the way things ended last year and all the shots of him yelling at Allen then walking out of locker room and all the bad posts he got on sites like this, where is he going to go and be in a better situation as to QB and to get good passes thrown to him more. 

 

I can think of a few places where the QB play is as good or maybe better, Chargers, Jax, Bengals, Chiefs, but Bengals and Chiefs, he's not the #1 target. Maybe with Dallas, Raiders, Lions, Browns, Broncos, Saints but big debate on how good QB really is.  Definitely not in same league as Allan, Mahomes, and Burrow.

[Nextmanup]

On 1/23/2023 at 5:58 PM, Chaos said:

 

If this is  true, then you can't keep both Diggs and Dorsey and expect to succeed. 

If he's figured out Dorsey sucks, he's right! 

 

The guy is not up to NFL offensive coordinating on a contending team...not even close.

 

Of course, we give him the job, and then double down after a terrible year and invite him back again.

 

He'll be gone after the 2023 season.  Watch.

 

 

[Dopey]

3 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Even he was upset with the way things ended last year and all the shots of him yelling at Allen then walking out of locker room and all the bad posts he got on sites like this, where is he going to go and be in a better situation as to QB and to get good passes thrown to him more. 

 

I can think of a few places where the QB play is as good or maybe better, Chargers, Jax, Bengals, Chiefs, but Bengals and Chiefs, he's not the #1 target. Maybe with Dallas, Raiders, Lions, Browns, Broncos, Saints but big debate on how good QB really is.  Definitely not in same league as Allan, Mahomes, and Burrow.

He should be upset after a playoff loss. You're giving places like this too much credit. If he reads and takes to heart what some people here write, he's an idiot. I don't think he takes this place seriously. I hope he doesn't waste time on TBD. Why should he? He's got better things to do. It's like that old soap opera " As the world turns" on TBD. You can come here once a month and read the same complaints as the day the season ended.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

27 minutes ago, Dopey said:

He should be upset after a playoff loss. You're giving places like this too much credit. If he reads and takes to heart what some people here write, he's an idiot. I don't think he takes this place seriously. I hope he doesn't waste time on TBD. Why should he? He's got better things to do. It's like that old soap opera " As the world turns" on TBD. You can come here once a month and read the same complaints as the day the season ended.

 

My wording wasn't the best.  I was more thinking about the bad posts he got in response to articles in the press.  They certainly weren't to kind to him WRT his behavior.  That in turn caused many of the bad posts.  But I do believe he was more bothered by what was written about him in the press than posts.

 

Actually he did respond on Twitter so while not this site apparently he does pay attention to what the fans say about him.  So then maybe he is an idiot who doesn't have better things to do??  He does strike me as the type more bothered by unqualified criticism than some are,

[Warriorspikes51]

43 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

If he's figured out Dorsey sucks, he's right! 

 

The guy is not up to NFL offensive coordinating on a contending team...not even close.

 

Of course, we give him the job, and then double down after a terrible year and invite him back again.

 

He'll be gone after the 2023 season.  Watch.

 

 

I mean ??? Wasn't our Offense ranked very high?   I know the 2nd half of the year wasn't pretty...but it's possible Allen's arm was more of a factor in play-calling than we think? 

[Alphadawg7]

I don’t know what is worse…People trying to apply some DaVinci Code type of cryptic meanings to anything someone says on Twitter…or taking any tweet seriously on April Fools.  
 

Both seem pretty equally ridiculous.  

[gjv]

Perhaps this is a subtle message from Diggs to Beane to improve the quality of skilled players around Josh. Diggs and Jim Kelly might be on the same bandwagon.

[thenorthremembers]

2 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

If he's figured out Dorsey sucks, he's right! 

 

The guy is not up to NFL offensive coordinating on a contending team...not even close.

 

Of course, we give him the job, and then double down after a terrible year and invite him back again.

 

He'll be gone after the 2023 season.  Watch.

 

 

Pretty sure a report came out on the incident where the same play was called all week in practice and Josh was having trouble hitting the throw, he told Diggs dont worry we will hit it in the game.  Josh missed the throw and what Diggs was saying on the sideline was "Whats your excuse now Josh."

 

Depending on who you believe, it may be nothing and it may be something.  I think he has come across pretty poorly the last year.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, thenorthremembers said:

Pretty sure a report came out on the incident where the same play was called all week in practice and Josh was having trouble hitting the throw, he told Diggs dont worry we will hit it in the game.  Josh missed the throw and what Diggs was saying on the sideline was "Whats your excuse now Josh."

 

Depending on who you believe, it may be nothing and it may be something.  I think he has come across pretty poorly the last year.

 

I have heard very similar that by the end of last year the Josh-Stef bromance was extremely strained. My hope has been that they can put it back together with some space and time to process and reflect. 

 

And I agree even as the biggest Diggs fan going that some of his behaviour at the end of last year was not what you want to see. Even if some of the criticisms he was making internally of the offense were on the money. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I have heard very similar that by the end of last year the Josh-Stef bromance was extremely strained. My hope has been that they can put it back together with some space and time to process and reflect. 

 

And I agree even as the biggest Diggs fan going that some of his behaviour at the end of last year was not what you want to see. Even if some of the criticisms he was making internally of the offense were on the money. 

He wants to win. Josh was throwing too many picks and not seeing the whole field.  Huge question marks for this coaching staff to answer in 2023 playoffs. 

I trust Diggs more than I do Dorsey or McDermott 

[LABILLBACKER]

On 1/23/2023 at 2:57 PM, JohnNord said:

I don’t think so.  It’s the whole offense from playing calling to OL and maybe a little Josh

Dorsey was a rookie deer in the headlights OC.  We probably weren't going to run like a well oiled machine his first year. The OL was what it's been for 5 years....mediocre putting it kindly.  Again our running game was inconsistent and our 53M $ TE was forced to block.  We were fortunate Q didn't end Josh's season.  If Diggs wants to tweet to anyone, direct it to McB.

[Royale with Cheese]

2 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

If he's figured out Dorsey sucks, he's right! 

 

The guy is not up to NFL offensive coordinating on a contending team...not even close.

 

Of course, we give him the job, and then double down after a terrible year and invite him back again.

 

He'll be gone after the 2023 season.  Watch.

 

 

 

We didn't have a good offensive line and had to go get two retired players to play WR in Beasley and Brown....and we were #3 in scoring.

We were above the Bengals with Burrow, Higgins, Chase and Boyd as his WR's and with a better OL. 

 

How is he not even close?  

[Don Otreply]

SMH…,

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

We didn't have a good offensive line and had to go get two retired players to play WR in Beasley and Brown....and we were #3 in scoring.

We were above the Bengals with Burrow, Higgins, Chase and Boyd as his WR's and with a better OL. 

 

How is he not even close?  

 

 We had almost identical results on offense as we did in 2021. Even though we had a 1st year OC, played a much harder schedule and the defense not being able to get off the field once Von went down. The defense gave up 28 more 1st downs & 481 more yards this year in 1 less game vs 2021. We just did it a different way with quick scoring & big plays vs long sustained drives.

 

 The only thing the offense was lower in this year vs 2021 was 1st downs per game. Averaging a half a 1st down less.

 We even averaged 10 more yards rushing per game this year and 6 more yards passing. 

 

 

 PPG

 2021 - 28.4

 2022 - 28.4

 

 1ST DOWNS PER GAME 

 2021 - 23.41

 2022 - 22.93

 

 TOTAL YARDS PER GAME 

 2021 - 391.7

 2022 - 407.7

 

 3rd DOWN %

 2021 - 46.40%

 2022 - 50.26%

 

 

[julian]

4 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

If he's figured out Dorsey sucks, he's right! 

 

The guy is not up to NFL offensive coordinating on a contending team...not even close.

 

Of course, we give him the job, and then double down after a terrible year and invite him back again.

 

He'll be gone after the 2023 season.  Watch.

 

 

He had a terrible year ? Bean needs to provide protection and weapons and Josh needs to execute at an elite level in the playoffs, think more 2021 and less 2022 playoff Josh.

 

 This is Allen’s offense and Dorsey is there to help implement the game plan. If McDermott can stay outta the way in January and February and Bean provides the necessary assets then Allen will win a championship.

[Gugny]

Diggs is perfectly fine in the regular season.  For the past two years, however, our playmaker ain't makin' plays in elimination games.

 

          Games   Targets   Receptions   Yards   Touchdowns

2021       2             10             6                67             0

2022       2             19            11               149            0

 

Four games - 17 catches (59%), 216 yards and zero TDs.

 

I'm not blaming Diggs, per se.  But the facts are the facts.  You don't see Travis Kelce disappearing in January.

 

 

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Diggs is perfectly fine in the regular season.  For the past two years, however, our playmaker ain't makin' plays in elimination games.

 

          Games   Targets   Receptions   Yards   Touchdowns

2021       2             10             6                67             0

2022       2             19            11               149            0

 

Four games - 17 catches (59%), 216 yards and zero TDs.

 

I'm not blaming Diggs, per se.  But the facts are the facts.  You don't see Travis Kelce disappearing in January.

 

 

 

 

[Gugny]

3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

 

 

We're trying McDermott's "bend, then break," strategy today.

[GunnerBill]

8 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Diggs is perfectly fine in the regular season.  For the past two years, however, our playmaker ain't makin' plays in elimination games.

 

          Games   Targets   Receptions   Yards   Touchdowns

2021       2             10             6                67             0

2022       2             19            11               149            0

 

Four games - 17 catches (59%), 216 yards and zero TDs.

 

I'm not blaming Diggs, per se.  But the facts are the facts.  You don't see Travis Kelce disappearing in January.

 

 

 

In 2021 teams were actively doubling him. In 2022 we were just woeful on offense kn the playoffs. Too many mistakes. 

[Gugny]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

In 2021 teams were actively doubling him. In 2022 we were just woeful on offense kn the playoffs. Too many mistakes. 

 

Three catches (six targets) for seven yards vs. KC in 2021.  That is a problem.  You don't target your best weapon on offense six times .  And if you do, you should expect him to get more than seven yards out of it.

 

Again ... I'm not calling Diggs out.  But between Diggs, Allen and Dorsey, they need to figure out how to get Diggs the ball in the postseason.

 

And the offense put up 34 on Miami in the playoffs last year before quitting vs. the Bengals.

 

 

 

 

[Yantha]

4 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Three catches (six targets) for seven yards vs. KC in 2021.  That is a problem.  You don't target your best weapon on offense six times .  And if you do, you should expect him to get more than seven yards out of it.

 

Again ... I'm not calling Diggs out.  But between Diggs, Allen and Dorsey, they need to figure out how to get Diggs the ball in the postseason.

 

And the offense put up 34 on Miami in the playoffs last year before quitting vs. the Bengals.

 

 

 

 

 

Respectfully disagree.  As long as the ball gets into the endzone, and we get the "W" I don't care if Diggs is a double-teamed decoy for the whole game with only 6 targets.  

 

Also, if you are only averaging 2.3 YPC, I think you look elsewhere.  Right?

 

 

[Gugny]

16 minutes ago, Yantha said:

 

Respectfully disagree.  As long as the ball gets into the endzone, and we get the "W" I don't care if Diggs is a double-teamed decoy for the whole game with only 6 targets.  

 

Also, if you are only averaging 2.3 YPC, I think you look elsewhere.  Right?

 

 

The problem is that we’re not winning. 

[GunnerBill]

24 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Three catches (six targets) for seven yards vs. KC in 2021.  That is a problem.  You don't target your best weapon on offense six times .  And if you do, you should expect him to get more than seven yards out of it.

 

Again ... I'm not calling Diggs out.  But between Diggs, Allen and Dorsey, they need to figure out how to get Diggs the ball in the postseason.

 

And the offense put up 34 on Miami in the playoffs last year before quitting vs. the Bengals.

 

 

Yea they gave the ball away a ton v Miami too though. As an entire team we were not at our best in the playoffs this past year.

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea they gave the ball away a ton v Miami too though. As an entire team we were not at our best in the playoffs this past year.

 

Totally agree.  And, obviously, defense and coaching are the roots of the problem. 

[ChrisWatson#21]

It would be career suicide for him to go play somewhere else.  He wasn't an all pro until he paired up with JA.

[Yantha]

2 hours ago, Gugny said:

The problem is that we’re not winning. 

 

Also not true really.  Did we lose against the Bengals?  Yes.

We beat a very good Dolphins team in the playoffs as well.

Plus the team routinely puts up 30+ scoring games.  I just can't go full out and say "we're not winning".  

 

This team is poised to have a great shot at a superbowl next season.  

 

My original point is that yes Diggs is an elite player but when you are yourself completely ineffective in a playoff game, it's pretty pathetic to hear him whining about anything....  sorry but can't stand diva attitudes when you put up a total FLUB in a playoff game.

[78thealltimegreat]

After he restructured it would be impossible to trade for the next 3 seasons. So don’t even bother with his tweets anymore 

[newcam2012]

4 hours ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

 We had almost identical results on offense as we did in 2021. Even though we had a 1st year OC, played a much harder schedule and the defense not being able to get off the field once Von went down. The defense gave up 28 more 1st downs & 481 more yards this year in 1 less game vs 2021. We just did it a different way with quick scoring & big plays vs long sustained drives.

 

 The only thing the offense was lower in this year vs 2021 was 1st downs per game. Averaging a half a 1st down less.

 We even averaged 10 more yards rushing per game this year and 6 more yards passing. 

 

 

 PPG

 2021 - 28.4

 2022 - 28.4

 

 1ST DOWNS PER GAME 

 2021 - 23.41

 2022 - 22.93

 

 TOTAL YARDS PER GAME 

 2021 - 391.7

 2022 - 407.7

 

 3rd DOWN %

 2021 - 46.40%

 2022 - 50.26%

 

 

Stats really don't give an accurate picture here. Allen alone can make offensive team stats look good. That's the case here. Allen gets 90% of the credit and Dorsey held him back from achieving more. 

 

Any football person and casual fan could see that Dorsey was learning on the job. 

 

Now, we can only hope that the game has slowed and his mind is sharper and more progressive this year. He needs to make a big jump. 

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

 

 Allen alone can make offensive team stats look good, that's true, but that would also be the case in 2021 with Daboll. Everyone seems to forget just how bad the offense was for stretches after game 7 in 2021.

 

 Case in point, Allen through game 7 had 17 tds and only 3 ints. After that he had 19 tds and 12 ints over the last 10 games of the year. Where was Daboll's magic in getting Allen back on track? That was against a bunch of bad teams no less and with a healthy Allen. 

 

 He was the same QB in 2022 as he was in 2021, that's not on Dorsey. 36 tds in 2021, 35 last year. 15 ints in 2021, 14 last year. 63.3 comp. % in both years, a better ypa last year by almost a yard. A better QB Rating and QBR, increasing 4.5 & 5 points respectively. It was more of a boom or bust, big play offense, I get it, you don't like it. But it produced the same results or better by both the QB and offense across the board. Again with an injured QB and against a far harder schedule than 2021.

 

 

 

[Gugny]

3 hours ago, Yantha said:

 

Also not true really.  Did we lose against the Bengals?  Yes.

We beat a very good Dolphins team in the playoffs as well.

Plus the team routinely puts up 30+ scoring games.  I just can't go full out and say "we're not winning".  

 

This team is poised to have a great shot at a superbowl next season.  

 

My original point is that yes Diggs is an elite player but when you are yourself completely ineffective in a playoff game, it's pretty pathetic to hear him whining about anything....  sorry but can't stand diva attitudes when you put up a total FLUB in a playoff game.

We are entering year six of the Josh Allen era. Look at the past couple decades of young Super Bowl champion QBs. You will see that they won those rings by year four. 
 

It’s an organizational and coaching failure.
 

Im not in the “the window is closed” camp.
 

But it’s getting close.
 

We’re not winning in the post season.  

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, Gugny said:

We are entering year six of the Josh Allen era. Look at the past couple decades of young Super Bowl champion QBs. You will see that they won those rings by year four. 
 

It’s an organizational and coaching failure.
 

Im not in the “the window is closed” camp.
 

But it’s getting close.
 

We’re not winning in the post season.  

Well, odds are young winning Super Bowl QB's will win it in their first four years. 

 

Super Bowl champion QB's last 20 seasons:

QB's to win it first four years of career:  Brady (year 2), Roethlisberger (year 2), Wilson (year 3), Mahomes (year 3)

QB's to win it year five or after:  E. Manning (year 5), Flacco (year 5), Rodgers (year 6), Foles (year 6), Brees (year 9), P. Manning (year 9), M. Stafford (year 13)

 

Plenty of time to get it right assuming Allen stays healthy.  Allen has only been a top five quarterback for three seasons now.

 

[Dr. Who]

On 4/4/2023 at 12:43 AM, Doc Brown said:

Well, odds are young winning Super Bowl QB's will win it in their first four years. 

 

Super Bowl champion QB's last 20 seasons:

QB's to win it first four years of career:  Brady (year 2), Roethlisberger (year 2), Wilson (year 3), Mahomes (year 3)

QB's to win it year five or after:  E. Manning (year 5), Flacco (year 5), Rodgers (year 6), Foles (year 6), Brees (year 9), P. Manning (year 9), M. Stafford (year 13)

 

Plenty of time to get it right assuming Allen stays healthy.  Allen has only been a top five quarterback for three seasons now.

 

Don't care that you can't prove a counterfactual. Two years ago was the year. Josh was locked in. The coaching staff bungled it.

Still time, of course, but that lost opportunity is going to haunt for a generation if they don't come through.

[pocoboy]

1 minute ago, Dr. Who said:

Don't care that you can't prove a counterfactual. Two years ago was the year. Josh was locked in. The coaching staff bungled it.

Still time, of course, but that lost opportunity is going to haunt for a generation if they don't come through.

Well I mean, I guess we should just trade Allen then and go draft a new QB. Because trends never ever get broken. Just start it all over, go get the 6th best QB and finish 4-13 or something. Makes sense.