aristocrat Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Thomas at 13 mil next year in the slot is a great idea.4th to a third if he plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Neither. Get someone young like Cortland Sutton or Jerry Jeudy from Denver, or Elijah Moore from the Jets, who obviously wants out. Hell, send the Jets a fourth or fifth for Mims. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) Some linemen and an oc that knows how to design an offense, form a good game plan, and call plays. I would like another stud receiver too but cant do everything in one season. They need to hit on draft picks and stop spending FA money. Especially when they dont have it. Cant keep mortgaging the future and then fail Edited January 23, 2023 by Scott7975 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 38 minutes ago, SCBills said: See if someone will take 27 and Oliver to move up in RD1 to where we can get a legit WR. Frees up his cap hit as well. Firmly in the camp of going WR in the draft unless a top FA WR wants to come here on a discount. Here's the stat numbers from top WRs this year, note the two 1k guys didn't compete with a guy like Diggs for #1 looks. Do any of them look better than Davis' stats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Neither. We need a running game!! We have to make teams respect the run. It will open up our passing game. Unfortunately Dorsey can’t be that guy leading the charge. We need a complete change in offensive philosophy..not throwing money on injury prone WR’s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Clearly not wym ? Shakir Beasley Diggs Davis we’re open. we need 2 more guys to get open too while dealing with this soft OL ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, whorlnut said: Neither. Use a first round pick on one. Control him on the cheap for five years. I will be surprised if we go WR in the first round. Beane is got that next defensive player on speed dial in the first round already 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: I will be surprised if we go WR in the first round. Beane is got that next defensive player on speed dial in the first round already If we draft D with our 1st round this site will have a meltdown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Just now, Real McNasty said: If we draft D with our 1st round this site will have a meltdown. can almost guarantee they will either draft a safety or a lber Needs to be OL/OL/OL Wont be anything left of #17 they keep trotting out these crap lines in front of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Trade for Hopkins, fire Fraizer and use the draft to get more physical on the lines and at LB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Linemen please. Anyone can play wideout Linemen can’t play wideout. I’m pretty sure. 😋 It’s my two personal priorities, and how the board falls will determine who we start looking up like crazy on draft day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, whorlnut said: Neither. Use a first round pick on one. Control him on the cheap for five years. And then the question becomes, does he actually get to play or do we get to keep on seeing Davis not catch the ball? 21 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: I will be surprised if we go WR in the first round. Beane is got that next defensive player on speed dial in the first round already Bite your tongue, lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: And then the question becomes, does he actually get to play or do we get to keep on seeing Davis not catch the ball? Bite your tongue, lol This is a good point and one that I’ve considered. Davis is in his contract year next year and McD hates playing rookies. It’s something to keep an eye on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 38 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Some linemen and an oc that knows how to design an offense, form a good game plan, and call plays. I would like another stud receiver too but cant do everything in one season. They need to hit on draft picks and stop spending FA money. Especially when they dont have it. Cant keep mortgaging the future and then fail I think there's a pretty good former HC and OC available who's name rhymes with Mike that fits that description and who's available right now. Matter of fact, I think he used to play for us too 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Linemen please. Anyone can play wideout Possibly the most ignorant post I've seen here in 6 months. And with this place, that's saying a LOT. If anyone could play WR, we wouldn't have been beaten so badly yesterday. We have 1 real WR and that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: Possibly the most ignorant post I've seen here in 6 months. And with this place, that's saying a LOT. If anyone could play WR, we wouldn't have been beaten so badly yesterday. We have 1 real WR and that's it. I think we have a #1 WR an inconsistent #2/3 WR and developing #4 and an average starting TE. Yet need a reliable slot guy and 2nd TE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 17 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Possibly the most ignorant post I've seen here in 6 months. And with this place, that's saying a LOT. If anyone could play WR, we wouldn't have been beaten so badly yesterday. We have 1 real WR and that's it. The most ignorant post we’ve seen is the 3 years you spent telling us Josh Allen was trash. Get ahold of yourself. We’ve got solid wideouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: The issue is picking late. Picking at 27, Johnston, Addison, and Smith-Njigba are likely all gone. Would you rather have Jalin Hyatt or the other two I've listed? Question is will they be able to get open in the NFL? Thomas and OBJ are known commodities. If you can get a known commodity at a decent price to help Josh Allen tomorrow, why wouldn't you do just that. If Thomas/OBJ can help the Bills get to the SB in '24 why would you wait to see if a draft pick can do it? Why not use that draft pick to help solidify other leaky positions on the team. I mentioned in another post about the possibility of acquiring Michael Thomas. Sign me up if Beane can work his magic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Allen2Diggs said: Michael Thomas had 1,700 yards in his last full season and if he's 100% healthy, then he's the top wr available. Offensive line is the bigger concern, but we definitely need to give Josh another consistent weapon next season. Believing he’s the same guy that put up 1700 yards was your first mistake. He just isn’t ever going to be that guy again. Edited January 24, 2023 by Alphadawg7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: Neither. Get someone young like Cortland Sutton or Jerry Jeudy from Denver, or Elijah Moore from the Jets, who obviously wants out. Hell, send the Jets a fourth or fifth for Mims. Jets have some nice wr talent wasted on the bench. 38 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: The most ignorant post we’ve seen is the 3 years you spent telling us Josh Allen was trash. Get ahold of yourself. We’ve got solid wideouts. Solid wideouts wont cut it anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Believing he’s the same guy that put up 1700 yards was your first mistake. He just isn’t ever going to be that guy again. Yeah, I think most of us can relate to that….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Neither. This team's age is creeping up in the WR and secondary group. Need to get younger imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 If you can get Thomas for under 10m, do it and draft like a gazillion offensive linemen with our picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 15 hours ago, whorlnut said: Neither. Use a first round pick on one. Control him on the cheap for five years. 100% this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Not sure why anyone would sign Thomas at this point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I wouldn’t mind taking a look at DJ Chark. Has elite speed and height at 4.34 and 6’3”. Wasn’t the greatest route runner coming out of LSU, but has definitely gotten better since entering the NFL. Probably would command a contract around 10-12 million per, but would push Gabe Davis into that 3rd receiver spot, and allow Shakir to move into the slot full time. Shakir can add that intermediate layering that we seem to be missing with our pass concepts. I expect him to make a jump next year, but that number 2 spot needs to be addressed, via free agency or draft, but the major needs on the OL take precedence in Round 1 unless an elite can’t miss prospect falls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, Codyny13 said: I wouldn’t mind taking a look at DJ Chark. Has elite speed and height at 4.34 and 6’3”. Wasn’t the greatest route runner coming out of LSU, but has definitely gotten better since entering the NFL. Probably would command a contract around 10-12 million per, but would push Gabe Davis into that 3rd receiver spot, and allow Shakir to move into the slot full time. Shakir can add that intermediate layering that we seem to be missing with our pass concepts. I expect him to make a jump next year, but that number 2 spot needs to be addressed, via free agency or draft, but the major needs on the OL take precedence in Round 1 unless an elite can’t miss prospect falls. Has the same issue Gabe Davis does, he cant catch. Just my opinion but if they are going to spend any money on wideout they should bring in someone to take the #2 role not just compete. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Allen, Miller, Diggs, and Milano alone are due for $53,000,000 worth of salary increases in 2023. The days of being buyers are probably over for a bit. I’m just not sure where you’re going to find $15,000,000 for a WR on the wrong side of 30. It’s time to start drafting well. Buffalo had the 4th oldest roster coming into the season, and that was prior to adding Von Miller who turns 34 in March. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, nucci said: Not sure why anyone would sign Thomas at this point He's a far better composer and orchestral conductor than OBJ will ever be. 🤨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Diggs Michael Thomas 1st Round Dynamic WR Davis Shakir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: Has the same issue Gabe Davis does, he cant catch. Just my opinion but if they are going to spend any money on wideout they should bring in someone to take the #2 role not just compete. I’m not sure I agree with the catches. I think he had maybe 2 drops this season? I don’t think he’s a home run, but I don’t think we can afford a home run either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Codyny13 said: I’m not sure I agree with the catches. I think he had maybe 2 drops this season? I don’t think he’s a home run, but I don’t think we can afford a home run either You may not agree but the stats don't lie. Both he and Davis are sub 60% catch ratio for their careers. Chark is 55% for his. Neither are reliable ball catchers. We can afford a home run if they restructure contracts and don't resign Poyer or Edmunds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Either, if healthy, are incredible players. I see them like I see used german cars. Pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 If nothing else, getting Michael Thomas would probably mean the end of Keyshawn Johnson's anti-Josh nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: You may not agree but the stats don't lie. Both he and Davis are sub 60% catch ratio for their careers. Chark is 55% for his. Neither are reliable ball catchers. We can afford a home run if they restructure contracts and don't resign Poyer or Edmunds. Is that a dropped passes stat, and does that include uncatchable balls? We gotta remember he was catching balls from Blake Bortles and Gardner Minshew prior to injury, which would be my greater fear than his hands. Look I’m not saying he’s the top of the mountain, but IMO you can’t afford that. If you’re employing a Hopkins or some guy like that, what are we doing at safety, middle lb, left guard, rt guard, rt tackle, and DE, because there’s a good chance Miller won’t be ready at seasons start. Not to mention rb2, and any guys we watch walk. Hard to fill so many starter positions when you pump so much money into 1 positional group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 20 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Linemen please. Anyone can play wideout You mean like Gabe, McKenzie, Shakir who were so good we had to bring back Brown and Beas?!? We don't want just anyone at WR ... we need WRs who can ... oh, I don't know ... call me crazy ... but consistently get open and catch a freaking ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Josh Allen and Michael Thomas would be the football version of the Irresistible Force Paradox. Allen, who rarely throws slants, with slant boy as WR2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Diggs Michael Thomas 1st Round Dynamic WR Davis Shakir Dynamic WR = Zay Flowers. Find a partner and move up in rd 2. If he crushes the combine then all bets are off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Dynamic WR = Zay Flowers. Pssst. Robert Foster. Will also make for a few lively threads here at TBD-TSW. 😁 * Duke Williams is already in an advanced management course for Canadian Tire. 🙁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 21 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: Not one iota of interest in either of these players you just wanted a reason to use the word iota didn't you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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