DCofNC Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 The trenches have been dominated when it matters, it’s time to upgrade. 7 1 1 6 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Let's draft more rotational DL who suck so we don't have to play our existing rotation DL who suck too much. 5 1 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 I'm not. I want to B word first. A lot!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Got any OL and receivers? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 What's the spread on this one? I think the draft beats us easily 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Can’t wait to draft another defensive end! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadBills Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 I don’t even trust Beane anymore. He’s whiffed on a lot of picks 1 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Let’s hope they overreach on another D lineman and completely neglect the o line again. Just now, BigBadBills said: I don’t even trust Beane anymore. He’s whiffed on a lot of picks Ya He’s been a pretty average drafter. He hit on Josh Allen, that was the big one. Besides that? A ton of whiffs 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Not even sure they have shown a propensity to be able to draft the trenches. Ford was a huge miss. D line is soft. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Keep Von Miller, Daquan Jones and Give Rousseau another year. The rest of the defensive line is expendable and it is time for some new blood. This draft should be invested in both lines. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: Let's draft more rotational DL who suck so we don't have to play our existing rotation DL who suck too much. I support this. Lombardi incoming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 O-line & weapons, lots & lots of weapons. We need ALL the Weapons. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 LG and RT 100% need replacement. Argument could be made for RG, but lowest priority. Add in possibility of a Morse retirement and next season could be brutal. Maybe we need a down year to overhaul OL/WR, not sure we can get all this done in 1 FA/draft. Theres going to be some big turnover on Def starters, what scares me most is the temptation to address that on day 1 or 2. Def should start day 3, no earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Sweet can’t wait to draft some dbs and ends that don’t even start 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 I’ll say it, Beane is mediocre at drafting. His resume outside of Allen is not good. When it comes to the 2nd round, he might be the worst I’ve ever seen. Not a single difference maker: Ford, Epenesa, Basham and Cook. 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said: Keep Von Miller, Daquan Jones and Give Rousseau another year. The rest of the defensive line is expendable and it is time for some new blood. This draft should be invested in both lines. More D line mediocre drafting? Dear god… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 This draft should be 95% offense. O line and receivers 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, Bangarang said: I’ll say it, Beane is mediocre at drafting. His resume outside of Allen is not good. When it comes to the 2nd round, he might be the worst I’ve ever seen. Not a single difference maker: Ford, Epenesa, Basham and Cook. No you’re absolutely right. I said that mid season and got ripped on. But he is a very mediocre drafter. A couple of descent day 2/3 picks, but overall too many whiffs 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, DCofNC said: The trenches have been dominated when it matters, it’s time to upgrade. Yea I don’t think they 8th DL off the board is the guy that solves this unfortunately I suspect it’s an interior lineman. Hopefully not just a replacement of Morse. WR should be the pick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 No more DL who dont have the speed for DE or power to bull rush. Im talking nothing burgers like Epenesa and Boogie. Also quit trading away picks like a 4th to move up 2 spots for Elam, or multiple picks used on Edmunds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, Steptide said: This draft should be 95% offense. O line and receivers 100% offense. We have to score to try to keep up w/ the Bengals, cause that D w/ all those assets & coaches will never ever ever get it done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) Putting so much money and resources into the DL / defense in general has gotten us… this. Can’t stop ANYone in the run, opposing QBs who aren’t dog 💩 complete EVERYthing. … What does it matter to invest in DL when offenses are allowed to hold with impunity in today’s league? Let Edmunds walk, let Ed walk. Offense has been kept status quo with an expectation, maybe, that Josh will make chicken poop look like chicken salad. We couldn’t move the ball for anything. Need to invest HEAVILY in offense in FA and Draft. That’s where it is in the modern game. WR needs massive upgrade; Gabe is not who we thought he could be. OL needs upgrade at RT, LG, and C. Edited January 22, 2023 by UConn James 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: More D line mediocre drafting? Dear god… Fair enough. Maybe sign some instead, but either way, this group needs an overhaul. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: No you’re absolutely right. I said that mid season and got ripped on. But he is a very mediocre drafter. A couple of descent day 2/3 picks, but overall too many whiffs I’m still spinning with Basham over Creed….. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, Golden said: I’m still spinning with Basham over Creed….. That pick drives me insane. And Bernard over Parham… 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyMark Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Starting tonight or in the morning, Beane should be announcing a plethora of OL and DL signings to reserve / futures contracts. The draft simply cannot solve all of our problems. This is a multi-layered approach and Beane has shown the draft is not truly his forte. Start bringing in big nasty maulers, the more the better. If today's game did not absolutely reveal that we need line help, then I cannot grasp what one just saw in that game. It was 100% won (Cinn) and 100% lost (Buff) in the trenches today. Nothing. Else. Matters. Zippo. Nada. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 As poorly as they played on D, I take the same stance as I did a year ago. They're going to win or lose depending on Josh Allen, but he needs help. This OL needs a major overhaul and now that the season is over, it's also very clear that they need help at WR2 and WR3 as well. At this point, I think I'd use every single pick on offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, DCofNC said: The trenches have been dominated when it matters, it’s time to upgrade. Good thing they are good at drafting linemen. Ford, Oliver, Epenesa, Basham, Rousseau, Brown. They all looked great today... Edited January 22, 2023 by That's No Moon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Can't move in to the draft until we figure who is the coach next year. If it's mcdermott draft doesn't matter team has no chance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 More premium picks on d lineman that can either be inactive or play 20% of snaps please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Great…can’t wait for Beane to fail at another draft…sign me up… Can’t wait to see what lesser talent are we gonna draft because of need? 4 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Good thing they are good at drafting linemen. Ford, Oliver, Epenesa, Basham, Rousseau, Brown. They all looked great today... What you talking about? Those are foundational pieces…😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share Posted January 22, 2023 18 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I’ll say it, Beane is mediocre at drafting. His resume outside of Allen is not good. When it comes to the 2nd round, he might be the worst I’ve ever seen. Not a single difference maker: Ford, Epenesa, Basham and Cook. Shhhh the homers will be here to tell you he’s amazing in rounds 4-7 9 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Good thing they are good at drafting linemen. Ford, Oliver, Epenesa, Basham, Rousseau, Brown. They all looked great today... There’s somebody who gets it! 13 minutes ago, Golden said: I’m still spinning with Basham over Creed….. Let’s not get started on all the picks this board would have made vs what Beane went for, sad part is, a bunch of drunk hacks would have made better picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalope89 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Morse is good at C, but him looking at retirement is a big question. Both Gs need upgraded. They got abused, badly. Davis is too hot and cold. When he's on, he's scary good. But when not, yeah. Diggs is good at 1. Shakir is still young, give him another year at least to see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Two non-lineman I would be open to at #1 -- Bijan Johnson and Antonio Johnson. But yeah, we need O-Line real bad. And while I still have hope for Davis, I would draft someone like Cedric Tillman in the second. Enough with Kumerow already. Cost us Hodgins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 Nice to see some realist here today, this soft team isn’t a fit for Buffalo weather and can’t handle the big games. The McBeane era would have been over if they hadn’t got lucky on Allen. I hope the ownership can see it and starts looking around. There’s a reason all the teams left in the playoffs have offensive coaches and hire aggressive D coordinators. The Tampa 2 is dead, it should have been extinct when Dungy left and Tampa finally won the title. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 hours ago, DCofNC said: The trenches have been dominated when it matters, it’s time to upgrade. I'm all in favor of addressing the O line, after we have secured our #2 WR. Unless they want to get that through free agency. The DL has hogged enough of our draft picks with this administration. They are terrible at it. Changes need to be made, but they don't get big draft capital to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: I’ll say it, Beane is mediocre at drafting. His resume outside of Allen is not good. When it comes to the 2nd round, he might be the worst I’ve ever seen. Not a single difference maker: Ford, Epenesa, Basham and Cook. On top of the actual players he selects, I fundamentally disagree with his draft philosophies too. I’m not totally out on him but I think he might be a bigger issue than our coordinators are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, DCOrange said: On top of the actual players he selects, I fundamentally disagree with his draft philosophies too. I’m not totally out on him but I think he might be a bigger issue than our coordinators are. Absolutely agree his philosophy is less than ideal, he’s continually reached for needs. No great GM has ever said, “I took the best player available, that met the needs”. You take BPA period. There’s no time ever that somebody has said, sure we drafted a HOF player at X position, but it sure would have been nice to have an average player at the place of need. He got hung up on a pas catching RB, there’s a second wasted, wanted a cover LB, there’s a wasted 3rd rounder, not to mention panicking about DB and trading away and extra pick to get the consolation prize because he wasn’t willing to go get the guy he wanted for what was basically the same cost. This last draft was an absolute ***** show and honestly, most have gone the same way. He gets hung up on a need and won’t budge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 hours ago, FireChans said: Let's draft more rotational DL who suck so we don't have to play our existing rotation DL who suck too much. Maybe a punt returner/speed/gadget play guy too? I mean, all we have available right now are McKenzie/Hines/Shakir/Cook 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I’ll take the best tacking, instinctive LB available in the first 2 rounds. Get a tone setter on the OL with the other. Bring in some speed on the backend of the defense and if you can get a playmaker at WR, fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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