That's No Moon Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Roman out as OC in Baltimore per Ian Rapoport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) To me this makes a long-term Lamar deal less likely. Edit: Is he too run heavy to be a Dorsey replacement candidate? Edited January 19, 2023 by JohnBonhamRocks 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: To me this makes a long-term Lamar deal less likely. Edit: Is he too run heavy to be a Dorsey replacement candidate? Don’t want to go back to the past ; ain’t nobody got time for that! 4 12 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: I actually think Roman would be an interesting OC candidate here. I'd take him as a run game consultant but that's about it. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 They will regret that unless they are trading Lamar and starting over. Greg will not be short of offers. 4 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I actually think Roman would be an interesting OC candidate here. 6 minutes ago, DrPJax said: Don’t want to go back to the past ; ain’t nobody got time for that! I’m wondering if he wouldn’t be able to do similarly creative gameplans for Allen that would take advantage of his dual threat capability. I recall Roman’s offense here was run centered, but allowed Taylor a decent amount of deep ball success. 3 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: I'd take him as a run game consultant but that's about it. The new Joe Brady? Edited January 19, 2023 by JohnBonhamRocks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Last year it was the DC, this year the OC.. getting closer to Harbaugh's head on the chopping block.. 1 10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I actually think Roman would be an interesting OC candidate here. I think I've heard of him. Is he any good?? 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Always thought his run games where the best and his passing attack was archaic. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Listened to a Ravens insider last week, and Roman was not liked in Baltimore. The consensus was he can design an outstanding run game, but never could do much with the pass. He described as a high-school level simplistic. DeCosta is the long-time FO member there, so I would expect them to start investing more in pass catchers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I actually think Roman would be an interesting OC candidate here. True. I’m just afraid he’ll run Allen into the ground. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritBill Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: They will regret that unless they are trading Lamar and starting over. Greg will not be short of offers. Chicago's on the blower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: True. I’m just afraid he’ll run Allen into the ground. Allen is a true passer, so I don't think he would run him the way they run Lamar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Has Roman ever had a top qb in the game though? kapernick? Tyrod? Lamar? I believe he was Lamar’s oc his mvp year right? And Lamar isn’t a top 10 thrower of the football. I’d be interested in seeing him actually call plays with a top passer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: The new Joe Brady? More along lines of Shula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 he could be a very good run game coordinator or something. his running game is on point, passing concepts are simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Resigned, according to ESPN. https://africa.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35481734/ravens-oc-greg-roman-resigns-amid-offense-declining-results 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 some of you guys are funny let me tell you... He was in the 49ers organization for 4 years Alex Smith/Kaepernick, then he went to Buffalo for 2 years where they get more out of Tyrod Taylor than anyone else. Then he goes to a team where he gets this dude named Lamar Jackson. Roman is stuck with THREE run first (for the most part) QB's and he got the most out of them. WHY do people Slam his 10 year as an coach over being STUCK with working on QB's like this? Greg Roman is a Master at the running game and I WOULD LOVE to see what work he could do with a passing QB that by the way, runs well too. I think calling Roman a running OC only is borderline ignorant. The man is a genius and think he would do better with a Josh Allen. Consider this. The 2 years he was with Buffalo he designed amazing screens and slant plays... Its what gave Lamar his name. Baltimore HC/GM needed a blame for their game and Roman was it. If Roman worked with a really good passer AND FAILED, I would 100% agree with you guys but sorry I DO NOT. Roman is a Stud and I am sure even if just for a year, Him working with our current OC would do this team a ton of good. Just saying... 12 minutes ago, wjag said: Last year it was the DC, this year the OC.. getting closer to Harbaugh's head on the chopping block.. this. Roman was the fall boy. nothing more, nothing less 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBob806 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just now, Chris farley said: he could be a very good run game coordinator or something. his running game is on point, passing concepts are simple. Yep. When they drafted Lamar, the Ratbirds & Roman chose to design a great rushing attack sprinkled with a low dose passing attack. It definitely works but the downfall is if you fall behind a couple scores, especially in the 2nd half, you have to abandon that design & throw. From a distance it does appear the Rats are preparing to move away from that design, maybe even without Lamar. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Chris farley said: he could be a very good run game coordinator or something. his running game is on point, passing concepts are simple. They have HAD to be simple... Look at the QB's he has had to deal with. Alex Smith, Kaepernick, Tyrod Taylor and Lamar freaking run first Jackson. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: They will regret that unless they are trading Lamar and starting over. Greg will not be short of offers. Eh, not so sure about that. Roman seems to have like 3 years before his system goes south. I think he is solid but part of the reason they are where they are is because they never really let Lamar grow as qb. They might have the worst receivers in the league and he played in a more complex system in college. I think you tag Lamar and get a guy who is going to have a more offense and see how he does in that. Lamar with 3 wrs and Andrew’s spreading the field would open a lot for him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Resigned, according to ESPN. https://africa.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35481734/ravens-oc-greg-roman-resigns-amid-offense-declining-results If i was Roman I would get out of dodge as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Ding doing the witch is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Far and away the best run-game coordinator out there. Only 1 season outside of the top 5 in rushing yards (his first season where SF finished 8th). God awful in the passing game though. Would be interesting to see what he could do with a throwing QB. If Dorsey gets a HC offer I would consider taking a look at Roman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Resigned, according to ESPN. https://africa.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35481734/ravens-oc-greg-roman-resigns-amid-offense-declining-results That Zimbabwean reporter coming up with the inside scoop I see! Must be friends with Odafe Oweh... Edited January 19, 2023 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Listened to a Ravens insider last week, and Roman was not liked in Baltimore. The consensus was he can design an outstanding run game, but never could do much with the pass. He described as a high-school level simplistic. DeCosta is the long-time FO member there, so I would expect them to start investing more in pass catchers. Would have helped if the Ravens gave him a QB to work with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Well either they are losing Lamar one way or another... or we are about to see if Lamar can run a conventional offense. I dont think he can. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: some of you guys are funny let me tell you... He was in the 49ers organization for 4 years Alex Smith/Kaepernick, then he went to Buffalo for 2 years where they get more out of Tyrod Taylor than anyone else. Then he goes to a team where he gets this dude named Lamar Jackson. Roman is stuck with THREE run first (for the most part) QB's and he got the most out of them. WHY do people Slam his 10 year as an coach over being STUCK with working on QB's like this? Greg Roman is a Master at the running game and I WOULD LOVE to see what work he could do with a passing QB that by the way, runs well too. I think calling Roman a running OC only is borderline ignorant. The man is a genius and think he would do better with a Josh Allen. Consider this. The 2 years he was with Buffalo he designed amazing screens and slant plays... Its what gave Lamar his name. Baltimore HC/GM needed a blame for their game and Roman was it. If Roman worked with a really good passer AND FAILED, I would 100% agree with you guys but sorry I DO NOT. Roman is a Stud and I am sure even if just for a year, Him working with our current OC would do this team a ton of good. Just saying... this. Roman was the fall boy. nothing more, nothing less There is some truth here. Brian Daboll had low ranking offenses for his NFL tenure (especially in the pass) until Josh Allen and Buffalo. When he replaced Dennison, the fear was more of the same run-based offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Lot of people negatively reacting to the point I said I think Roman could be an interesting candidate here if Dorsey leaves for a HC gig. I don't really see why, he got a lot out of that offense in Baltimore without having any real receiving weapons to work with. And he understands how to build a run game to compliment the passing attack and lots of experience with a dual threat QB. I see him as someone that can bring some balance to the offense by incorporating more of the run game to support Josh and our air attack. Not to mention, he made a stud out of Andrews, so I think he would better utilize Knox as a receiving weapon. I am not going to stand here and campaign hard for him, I am not even convinced Dorsey wont be here next year. But I do think Roman would be an interesting candidate if Dorsey wasn't in Buffalo next year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Eh, not so sure about that. Roman seems to have like 3 years before his system goes south. I think he is solid but part of the reason they are where they are is because they never really let Lamar grow as qb. They might have the worst receivers in the league and he played in a more complex system in college. I think you tag Lamar and get a guy who is going to have a more offense and see how he does in that. Lamar with 3 wrs and Andrew’s spreading the field would open a lot for him. Nah. You're wrong. Greg is a good coordinator. He is the best run game coordinator in football and he created a system in which unique players like Lamar and Kap can flourish. Because you are never winning with either dropping them back 40 times to throw from the pocket. If I was the Chicago Bears I'd already be on the phone. Want someone to make Justin Fields look legit? Greg Roman is your guy. I will come back and own it if I am wrong like I always do but Lamar in a pass heavy spread where it is one passing read or takeoff will not work. He needs a coordinator who can design around what he does and create confusion for the defense with design, formation and movement. That guy is Greg Roman. He is the best in the business at it. EDIT: at the same time... I wouldn't hire Greg Roman to coordinate my offense if I had an elite QB. But that only takes out a handful of teams. At least two thirds of the league would benefit from having him Edited January 19, 2023 by GunnerBill 2 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 35 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Roman out as OC in Baltimore per Ian Rapoport I did NOT see this coming. IMHO they might be pointing a finger at the wrong side of the ball there, although, I guess since they fired Wink last season and he helped take the Giants to the playoffs that might be a hard mistake to admit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 35 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: To me this makes a long-term Lamar deal less likely. I think it means they know Lamar already has decided to leave, and without Lamar, Roman's offense will fail completely. I think it means they know they have to move in another direction. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 22 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: They will regret that unless they are trading Lamar and starting over. Greg will not be short of offers Lamar decision looms. Entire Ravens O this year was odd. It was quite interesting that they almost won wildcard without $$$ MVP Lamar. Very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I actually think Roman would be an interesting OC candidate here. Here's the thing: I like Greg Roman. His run schemes are really interesting and he can get a lot out of a mobile QB. With our receiving group lacking, I would not be upset at incorporating some of his ideas into our offense. The problem is that this is a passing league. Even run game stalwarts like me acknowledge we are in a pass first league. As a run game coordinator, or someone to bring back designed boots and using a mobile QB like Josh to open the offense back up? Sure. Not as OC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: There is some truth here. Brian Daboll had low ranking offenses for his NFL tenure (especially in the pass) until Josh Allen and Buffalo. When he replaced Dennison, the fear was more of the same run-based offense. yea.. and we know how that turned out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 He gives your offense a high floor in the 15-20 range if your QB has any kind of mobility. That said he could be a good stop gap as the OC in Denver if Sean Payton turns down the HC job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just now, Since1981 said: Lamar decision looms. Entire Ravens O this year was odd. It was quite interesting that they almost won wildcard without $$$ MVP Lamar. Very interesting. I predict Lamar to fail his next team, unless its Miami or NYJ because they are complete teams with amazing weapons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Lot of people negatively reacting to the point I said I think Roman could be an interesting candidate here if Dorsey leaves for a HC gig. I don't really see why, he got a lot out of that offense in Baltimore without having any real receiving weapons to work with. And he understands how to build a run game to compliment the passing attack and lots of experience with a dual threat QB. I see him as someone that can bring some balance to the offense by incorporating more of the run game to support Josh and our air attack. Not to mention, he made a stud out of Andrews, so I think he would better utilize Knox as a receiving weapon. I am not going to stand here and campaign hard for him, I am not even convinced Dorsey wont be here next year. But I do think Roman would be an interesting candidate if Dorsey wasn't in Buffalo next year. That's interesting. My first take was to think you're nuts, but your explanation makes a lot of sense. Not only in the run game, but in the passing game, as well, because he will bring a different take to the development of the offensive line. The problem is that the job for the Bills is that the OC also has to be creative in the passing game, and I'm not so sure Roman can fill that part of the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: I predict Lamar to fail his next team, unless its Miami or NYJ Imagine if they have to pay him what he is asking? Jests would be a great team next year, but their cap situation would implode rather quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Nah. You're wrong. Greg is a good coordinator. He is the best run game coordinator in football and he created a system in which unique players like Lamar and Kap can flourish. Because you are never winning with either dropping them back 40 times to throw from the pocket. If I was the Chicago Bears I'd already be on the phone. Want someone to make Justin Fields look legit? Greg Roman is your guy. Teams don't draft QB's high to indefinitely be running types in run-based offenses. Perhaps at the outset this is understood, but those teams need their guy to develop into a passing QB who runs less. Fields is entering year 3 and the top QBs had demonstrated an ability to play from the pocket. Roman takes a run first offense and makes it better...sure. But run-first offenses need to eventually move into, driven by QB play, a solid passing team. That's the way it's done in the NFL now. Over an off-season teams learn how to stop guys like Kaepernick and Jackson if they don't become better passers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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