Damar Hamlin - Now (1/11/2023) discharged from Buf Gen & “recovering at home”

[Locomark]

So is this what happened , I assume someone with more medical skills already mentioned this in the 99 pages… it says the athlete often stumbles a few steps before collapsing with no heart beat. 
 

https://ksi.uconn.edu/emergency-conditions/cardiac-conditions/commotio-cordis/

 

 

 

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[AlfaBill]

3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Yeah, from what I heard from nurses, CPR can cause some serious damage...that's why sometimes they don't do it with very old or frail people because the damage it would cause would be too much...said they "fake it" at times when they know they can't do CPR.

What? Fake CPR? I’ve never heard that before. That’s insane if true. I’ve learned how to do chest compression and yes it can break ribs etc but still can save a life. A friend of mine suffered a heart attack just last month. He’s 49 and suffered several dislocated ribs but he’s alive. 

[oldmanfan]

Guys, I teach anatomy and physiology.  Just saw a report indicating he’s lying in a prone position.  You do that when oxygenation is impaired; It was one of the advances made in treating Covid patients.

 

Lung damage does not have to be a physical assault like from compressions.  When the heart isn’t functioning properly then pressure backs up into the lungs and you get pulmonary edema.  It’s harder to oxygenate through the lungs with edema.  Hence the requirement for higher oxygen.  I’m glad to hear they’re reducing the % O2.

 

just heard a cardiologist say this will be a marathon and not a sprint.  The next few days will be crucial; once they try and take him off the respirator they’ll find out if he can breathe on his own, and if so start assessing neurological and organ damage.

[Andy1]

CNN has Hamlin story on now

Edited January 4, 2023 by Andy1

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, AlfaBill said:

What? Fake CPR? I’ve never heard that before. That’s insane if true. I’ve learned how to do chest compression and yes it can break ribs etc but still can save a life. A friend of mine suffered a heart attack just last month. He’s 49 and suffered several dislocated ribs but he’s alive. 

 

They said it's usually for really old people like in their late 80s or 90s when they know won't survive it.

[Wyobills89]

prayers to Damar. My dad severed his aorta valve in a vehicle wreck, flighted to denver and they did surgery and repaired it but he went too long with out oxygen to the brain and had no brain activity. we as a family had to make the dicision to take him off life support. i truly hope that having medics right there and performing life saving cpr and defib and oxygen that he will come out of this.  prayers #3. i just hope he didnt suffer anything in his brain.

[The Wiz]

1 minute ago, AlfaBill said:

What? Fake CPR? I’ve never heard that before. That’s insane if true. I’ve learned how to do chest compression and yes it can break ribs etc but still can save a life. A friend of mine suffered a heart attack just last month. He’s 49 and suffered several dislocated ribs but he’s alive. 

I remember my teacher in lifeguarding class in HS, she said if you don't break a rib you're not doing it hard enough.

 

Hearing them annoying last night that they were "pounding" on his chest makes me think she was right. 

 

Luckily, I never needed to learn that lesson the hard way.

[wppete]

Not sure if this was posted yet. It’s a little graphic (mods feel free to delete if deemed so) Chris Pronger took a puck to the chest and the same thing happened. Looked very scary.  I don’t think he spent time in a hospital over night and played a few games later. 

 

 

[Stads]

8 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Yeah, from what I heard from nurses, CPR can cause some serious damage...that's why sometimes they don't do it with very old or frail people because the damage it would cause would be too much...said they "fake it" at times when they know they can't do CPR.

I've been a nurse 7 years working with geriatric patients and I have never heard this theory make the rounds. If we call a code on someone and they don't have a DNR/DNI, we are doing everything possible to save them

[North Buffalo]

9 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Yeah, from what I heard from nurses, CPR can cause some serious damage...that's why sometimes they don't do it with very old or frail people because the damage it would cause would be too much...said they "fake it" at times when they know they can't do CPR.

Mostly broken ribs or sternum... i guess if ribs break and puncture a lung it possible but havent seen it in all the cases ive xrayed post

[AlfaBill]

2 minutes ago, Wyobills89 said:

prayers to Damar. My dad severed his aorta valve in a vehicle wreck, flighted to denver and they did surgery and repaired it but he went too long with out oxygen to the brain and had no brain activity. we as a family had to make the dicision to take him off life support. i truly hope that having medics right there and performing life saving cpr and defib and oxygen that he will come out of this.  prayers #3. i just hope he didnt suffer anything in his brain.

Sorry for your loss. 

[buffaloboyinATL]

1 minute ago, Wyobills89 said:

prayers to Damar. My dad severed his aorta valve in a vehicle wreck, flighted to denver and they did surgery and repaired it but he went too long with out oxygen to the brain and had no brain activity. we as a family had to make the dicision to take him off life support. i truly hope that having medics right there and performing life saving cpr and defib and oxygen that he will come out of this.  prayers #3. i just hope he didnt suffer anything in his brain.

Wow. So sorry to hear that. Sorry for your loss. 

[rajinka]

5 minutes ago, AlfaBill said:

What? Fake CPR? I’ve never heard that before. That’s insane if true. I’ve learned how to do chest compression and yes it can break ribs etc but still can save a life. A friend of mine suffered a heart attack just last month. He’s 49 and suffered several dislocated ribs but he’s alive. 

Yeah that's bs. My wife's an icu nurse,  they run codes all the time.  Unless there's a dnr they do anything they can to revive the patient.  The after affects are dealt with if they're successful.  

[BigdaddyinOrlando]

42 minutes ago, Silvercrw said:

I have been a board member since 1996-97 and injury to Hamlin as truly shook me. I am also am a Youtuber/filmmaker with multiple channels and I could not, not make this video. I also spoke about this board and inserted a message from one of you. Hope you guys like it.I Can't BELIEVE This HAPPENED | Damar Hamlin

Very much sums up what a lot of us are feeling/dealing w today! Thanks for doing this well done!!

[MAJBobby]

To be honest. I don’t think there is a better duo I would want leading this team right now For Beane and McDermott 

 

 

[Scott7975]

1 minute ago, rajinka said:

Yeah that's bs. My wife's an icu nurse,  they run codes all the time.  Unless there's a dnr they do anything they can to revive the patient.  The after affects are dealt with if they're successful.  

 

I second this.  My wife was a nurse for her whole life and blew her own shoulder out trying to resusitate a patient.  That ended her career but the patient lived.

[ColoradoBills]

1 hour ago, NoSaint said:

I mean this not as a knock on the bengals but a compliment to humanity: I think all 32 franchises and fans would respond similarly 

 

they have been great though. 

 

Maybe so.  However, it is the Bengals team and fans that were there and will forever be linked the Bills and their fans.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

To be honest. I don’t think there is a better duo I would want leading this team right now For Beane and McDermott 

 

 

 

 This ^^^^^^^

 

 

 

[prissythecat]

14 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Yeah, from what I heard from nurses, CPR can cause some serious damage...that's why sometimes they don't do it with very old or frail people because the damage it would cause would be too much...said they "fake it" at times when they know they can't  If a patients advance directives are for a full code ,  you bet the nurses and staff will do everything to bring a patient back including sometimes breaking ribs during chest compressions 

 

 

 

This is patently false .  if a patient’s advance directives are for a full code ,  the medical staff will do everything to try to bring them back during an arrest ,  including breaking ribs .  

[Silvercrw]

3 minutes ago, BigdaddyinOrlando said:

Very much sums up what a lot of us are feeling/dealing w today! Thanks for doing this well done!!

Your welcome. I think all of us are feeling this exact same way at this exact moment. Football doesn't even matter anymore when you see something like this happen in front of your eyes. It was a like watching a horror film unfolding in front of our own eyes🙏

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, prissythecat said:

 

 

 

This is patently false .  if a patient’s advance directives are for a full code ,  the medical staff will do everything to try to bring them back during an arrest ,  including breaking ribs .  

As my dad always said. CPR causes damage. damage can be repaired AFTER the life is saved. 
 

40 year Paramedic and ADAMANT that his kids learned and stayed current in CPR. To this day I still am. As well as My kids. 

[YoloinOhio]

24 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Off the ventilator??

Not yet

[muppy]

2 minutes ago, Silvercrw said:

Your welcome. I think all of us are feeling this exact same way at this exact moment. Football doesn't even matter anymore when you see something like this happen in front of your eyes. It was a like watching a horror film unfolding in front of our own eyes🙏

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[Playoffs?]

2 hours ago, Bengalholic said:

Just wanted to stop in and share my best wishes - on behalf of myself and The Bengals Board - for Damar and his family. My heart goes out to them...as well as his coaches, teammates and Bills fans everywhere. It was an absolutely heartbreaking thing to witness, and I hope there is some positive news coming at some point soon.

 

 

Thanks, friend. Situations like this can really put a lot into perspective, while truly bringing out the best in many people. I commend and thank the Bengals organization, players, fans, and of course medical staff. A man’s life was saved on that field. 
 

I have felt connected with the Bengals since Andy Dalton broke the curse for Buffalo… and always find myself rooting for Cincy (when it’s not against the Bills). Last night showed a level of class that you only wish could be the standard. 
 

As mentioned a million times, it’s way bigger than football.. and I hope when Damar regains his health, he’ll realize how for a few days at least, he eliminated rivalries, ill will and pettiness… and united a world under one word.. love. 

[HurlyBurly51]

21 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

No worries.

I'm sort of in the same boat and deleted some of my own stuff last night

We all are.  Appreciate the moderation and at the same time a place to commiserate with fellow Bills fans.

[YoloinOhio]

14 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

To be honest. I don’t think there is a better duo I would want leading this team right now For Beane and McDermott 

 

 

1000% and also, these leaders are human and also need mental health resources. Mcdermotts face will haunt me from last night and Beane has to have had one of the most stressful seasons of any GM going back to Kim’s medical incident, araiza, Knox’s brother dying, Dane Jackson, Hyde and von season enders, Josh elbow management, ALL the weather ***** and now this 

Edited January 4, 2023 by YoloinOhio

[boyst]

Read his dad said he is in proning position (on chest) to help the ventilator work and gravity assists. If he is on ventilator is under anesthesia. Can't be awake on them. 

 

This is what they did to COVID patients to help take pressure off the lungs.

[muppy]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

1000% and also, these leaders are human and also need mental health resources. Mcdermotts face will haunt me from last night and Beane has to have had one of the most stressful seasons of any GM going back to Kim’s medical incident, araiza, Hyde and von season enders, ALL the weather ***** and now this 

YEP.

*Praying* Bless and heal Lord God. Give comfort and strength to all in need

.In Jesus name I pray AMEN

[Big Turk]

6 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

Thanks, friend. Situations like this can really put a lot into perspective, while truly bringing out the best in many people. I commend and thank the Bengals organization, players, fans, and of course medical staff. A man’s life was saved on that field. 
 

I have felt connected with the Bengals since Andy Dalton broke the curse for Buffalo… and always find myself rooting for Cincy (when it’s not against the Bills). Last night showed a level of class that you only wish could be the standard. 
 

As mentioned a million times, it’s way bigger than football.. and I hope when Damar regains his health, he’ll realize how for a few days at least, he eliminated rivalries, ill will and pettiness… and united a world under one word.. love. 

 

And since he likely will not be stepping back onto a football field again, he now may have found his new purpose in life with his charity that is over $5 million now and can do tons of good things for a lot of kids for very long time with that money. 

 

Crazy how when one door closes another opens many times.

Edited January 4, 2023 by Big Turk

[Xwnyer]

Just now, muppy said:

YEP.

*Praying* Bless and heal Lord God. Give comfort and strength to all in need

.In Jesus name I pray AMEN

Amen

[Silvercrw]

7 minutes ago, muppy said:

SUBSCRIBED  hermano. Im happy to have made your acquaintance here GO BILLS

Thx u my Man:) I have been on this board before it was redone and made a new username. The Todd Collins days lol

[muppy]

Just now, Silvercrw said:

Thx u my Man:) I have been on this board before it was redone and made a new username. The Todd Collins days lol

lol Ma'am

Im not quibbling it's all good. Post MORE 🙂

[Reed83HOF]

 

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, Motorin' said:

 

Seeing the trauma and emotion of the whole team, it was like a direct transmission of what they were feeling. In a way that's much stronger than can perhaps be had from reading about tragic events. 

This is what happened for me. During games, As Josh goes, I go. If he’s calm, I’m calm. If he’s frantic and upset , Im frantic and upset. As soon as I saw him so scared and covering his face as he teared up, I got really shaken up and knew something was very wrong. 

[Reed83HOF]

 

[Process]

 

[Dick_Cheney]

2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

 

 

Truly an incredible job from the first responders on the field. I hope they get the recognition they deserve, assuming they are comfortable with it, as well as all of the support they may need for processing such an event.

 

It really cannot be stressed enough how their response and coordination are the only reason Hamlin is alive and has any kind of fighting chance. Remarkable stuff.

[Reed83HOF]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

This is what happened for me. During games, As Josh goes, I go. If he’s calm, I’m calm. If he’s frantic and upset , Im frantic and upset. As soon as I saw him so scared and covering his face as he teared up, I got really shaken up and knew something was very wrong. 

I had seasons when Everett happened, I think about it every time I go back to the stadium, this brought me right back to what it was like being there. There was one clip of Sean last night it looked like he was saying "oh my god oh my god oh my god" like 50 times in a 5 second close up...Seeing Sean freak out really got me and TRe - I hope they are all taking care of themselves the best they can...

 

This is just awful

[mykidsdad]

This is sad, but encouraging. Lets keep praying.

[Mango]

6 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

 

 

So this is something that needs to be talked about more. Or at least framed properly. 
 

Hamlin didn’t almost die. He died on national television, and all his friends, family, and teammates watched. 
 

It’s a little bit of a pain point for me when I hear the “what ifs” in terms of scheduling. “Well we have to see how he does”. Why? All of his best friends watched him die, and saw him laying dead for 9 minutes. 
 

He may well recover, but none of that changes the above.