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2 hours ago, CoudyBills said:

I won't be happy, but I'll want to hear from all the homers to help me cope.  Your quarterback turning the ball over repeatedly against playoff teams will result in a loss.

 

Allen typically doesn't do that. Allen plays his best when stakes are highest. As evidenced by his nearly 108 QB rating in PrimeTime games and him having the highest postseason QB Rating in NFL history.

 

Maybe you should look at Burrow's performance in last year's playoffs. 5 TDs and 2 INTs in 4 games isn't gonna get it done. Can't count on your D and kicker to bail you out every game.

3 hours ago, gtw3 said:

Another game where I think our offense is just completely disjointed and ineffective and then I look at the score and we're sitting on 35 points.  How spoiled I have become lol 

 

 

bonus gift from peterman to close it out.

 

And 420+ yards of offense to go with 254 yards rushing...but wait...I thought the Bills can't run the ball with their RBs.

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22 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

Isn’t this the 2 point conversion? Yellow caught it and it was successful.

 

Agree that he made things harder than they needed it to be…

No not 2 PT try.  Shakir is out in flat in picture.  It was actually him who caught 2 PT try on left side of goal post 

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27 minutes ago, hemma said:

A hidden benefit of this Defensive effort is that it may give a decent guide for trying to handle Hurts.

Of course, Eagle’s OL is on a different level than Chicago’s, but still, pretty encouraging.

I think you're getting a little bit ahead of yourself there. It's just my opinion but I believe San Francisco is going to be the one to go all the way to the dance although they have a pretty stout offensive line as well.

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19 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

I'm confused on what you are trying to say here.

When talking about a football team, saying your quarterback means the quarterback of that team.  Your quarterback throwing picks is bad.  Make sense?

17 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Allen typically doesn't do that. Allen plays his best when stakes are highest. As evidenced by his nearly 108 QB rating in PrimeTime games and him having the highest postseason QB Rating in NFL history.

 

Maybe you should look at Burrow's performance in last year's playoffs. 5 TDs and 2 INTs in 4 games isn't gonna get it done. Can't count on your D and kicker to bail you out every game.

 

And 420+ yards of offense to go with 254 yards rushing...but wait...I thought the Bills can't run the ball with their RBs.

I sure hope so.  Today's performance was not great, hopefully he bounces back.  

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2 minutes ago, CoudyBills said:

When talking about a football team, saying your quarterback means the quarterback of that team.  Your quarterback throwing picks is bad.  Make sense?

I sure hope so.  Today's performance was not great, hopefully he bounces back.  

 

Not great and it led to a 3 score victory in the end.

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31 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

 Over the last several years we've done really well against running QBs, to the point they don'ts scare me at all. I'd rather face a running/mobile QB like Hurts than the lethal passers such as Mahomes and Burrow.

 

 And yes I'm aware Hurts is good at passing as well as running.

 

 

At this point, Hurts looks to be a much better passer than Lamar and Fields. Plus, the Eagles have a good oline and nice weapons with Smith, Brown, and Godart. The Bills D will have a hard time with their offense. I wouldn't complain seeing a Bills Vs Eagles Super Bowl. 

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19 minutes ago, freddyjj said:

No not 2 PT try.  Shakir is out in flat in picture.  It was actually him who caught 2 PT try on left side of goal post 

This actually was on the 2 PT conversion, but it was the one that didn’t count because the Bills got a penalty. It was actually a relatively easy completion to Davis 

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2 minutes ago, ShortBusGrizz said:

Bears fan here...I was hoping for a Christmas miracle so we had something good happen this year, but it was not to be.  We got curb stomped by your team, and you didn't have your best day.  That should scare the heck out of the rest of the league.  I know, I know, it was the Bears, but it's also the NFL and weird things happen. 

 

I hope you run the table, finish the regular season 14-3, and finally get your Lombardi.  If there is any team out there this year that deserves it, it is the Bills.  And there is no more deserving fan base.  I will be rooting for your success in 2023.  Good luck and here's to a parade in Buffalo.

 

Knowing our luck the Super Bowl Parade would need to be canceled due to a blizzard 😂😂😂

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6 minutes ago, ShortBusGrizz said:

Bears fan here...I was hoping for a Christmas miracle so we had something good happen this year, but it was not to be.  We got curb stomped by your team, and you didn't have your best day.  That should scare the heck out of the rest of the league.  I know, I know, it was the Bears, but it's also the NFL and weird things happen. 

 

I hope you run the table, finish the regular season 14-3, and finally get your Lombardi.  If there is any team out there this year that deserves it, it is the Bills.  And there is no more deserving fan base.  I will be rooting for your success in 2023.  Good luck and here's to a parade in Buffalo.

You are much better than iceberg, the packers fan here. just don’t make stupid threads here and you’ll be good. GL and ***** the pack 

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13 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

If this type of run game is sustainable,  our O would be literally unstoppable!!

 

 It is if and only if Dorsey continues to call a balanced offense. Including today's game Singletary and Cook have combined for a 5.008(I just wanted to show it was over 5.0 lol) ypc this year. It's not that they can't, they just go through long stretches were they elect not to. 

 

 Imo Cook needs to be the featured back and Singletary needs to be the complimentary back. Cook is averaging 5.8 ypc & 9.2 ypr on the year. Both well ahead of Singletary.

 

 

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1 minute ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

 It is if and only if Dorsey continues to call a balanced offense. Including today's game Singletary and Cook have combined for a 5.008(I just wanted to show it was over 5.0 lol) ypc this year. It's not that they can't, they just go through long stretches were they elect not to. 

 

 Imo Cook needs to be the featured back and Singletary needs to be the complimentary back. Cook is averaging 5.8 ypc & 9.2 ypr on the year. Both well ahead of Singletary.

 

 

 

They also can be very boom or bust at times and when they go long stretches of bust it discourages Dorsey from sticking with it.

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12 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

They also can be very boom or bust at times and when they go long stretches of bust it discourages Dorsey from sticking with it.

 

  No, not really. We're the only team to have at least 100 yards rushing per game. In most games our RBs don't have many yards, it's because of the number of carries, not their ypc average.

 

  Even if that were true, that's no excuse to stop running the ball, by weekends end we will be a top 5 rushing team. With other teams that have good running attacks they keep at it, even if they've been getting stopped the whole game. They keep plugging away and more often than not a RB breaks one and the rushing game turns around. Dorsey has to learn to have alot more patience in the running game.

 

 

6 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Did he break the century mark? 

 

 No he just missed. 11/99/1 a 9.0 ypc average, plus 1 catch for 9 yards

 

 

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5 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

  No, not really. We're the only team to have at least 100 yards rushing per game. In most games our RBs don't have many yards, it's because of the number of carries, not their ypc average.

 

  Even if that were true, that's no excuse to stop running the ball, by weekends end we will be a top 5 rushing team. With other teams that have good running attacks they keep at it, even if they've been getting stopped the whole game. They keep plugging away and more often than not a RB breaks one and the rushing game turns around. Dorsey has to learn to have alot more patience in the running game.

 

 

 

 No he just missed. 11/99/1 a 9.0 ypc average, plus 1 catch for 9 yards

 

 

 

Yes really...in the bust games, Allen becomes the running game because the RBs are getting tackled for losses or only getting a yard or two on carries. Typically they run the ball well in the first half, then the second half they try the same runs but the D adjusts and shuts them down and then it becomes Allen as the main runner.

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1 minute ago, RichRiderBills said:

If you take away a bad first drive on defense, the Bills played decent. Allen played ok as well...had a couple bad throws that show up in the stat line but 3 other TDs .

 

Given some special teams goofs w weather nearly put up a 40 burger. 

You can keep the first drive in and the Bills played MUCH better than just decent-barely 200 yards of offense, shut down their running game, multiple 4th down stops. The defense was awesome today

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3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Yes really...in the bust games, Allen becomes the running game because the RBs are getting tackled for losses or only getting a yard or two on carries. Typically they run the ball well in the first half, then the second half they try the same runs but the D adjusts and shuts them down and then it becomes Allen as the main runner.

 

 Every game Cook has got 5 carries, just 5 carries his ypc has been 4.8, 7.0, 4.4, 7.8, 4.6, 6.8 & 9.0 he hasn't been stopped. All the other they abandoned running him at 4 carries or less. 

 

 In 40% of our games our featured RB failed to get 10 carries. Hate to tell you that's called abandoning the run too early, especially for how many offensive plays we have run this year. Take the 1st Miami game as an example. Close game throughout almost all our WRs were either playing hurt, got hurt or suffering heat problems, along with Knox at TE and still out of 86 offensive plays our RBs got 15 carries. In a game that we were tied or winning most of the game. That's bailing too early on the running game and there's other games just like it. You're not going to convince me otherwise. 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

 Every game Cook has got 5 carries, just 5 carries his ypc has been 4.8, 7.0, 4.4, 7.8, 4.6, 6.8 & 9.0 he hasn't been stopped. All the other they abandoned running him at 4 carries or less. 

 

 In 40% of our games our featured RB failed to get 10 carries. Hate to tell you that's called abandoning the run too early, especially for how many offensive plays we have run this year. Take the 1st Miami game as an example. Close game throughout almost all our WRs were either playing hurt, got hurt or suffering heat problems, along with Knox at TE and still out of 86 offensive plays our RBs got 15 carries. In a game that we were tied or winning most of the game. That's bailing too early on the running game and there's other games just like it. You're not going to convince me otherwise. 

 

 

 

 

I agree with you...I am simply telling you it happens because the RBs are getting nothing in those games, or in the 2nd half of those games.

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1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

I agree with you...I am simply telling you it happens because the RBs are getting nothing in those games, or in the 2nd half of those games.

 

 Ok. But the nothing you're describing is often 2 or 3 plays where the line gets blown up then he just quits calling running plays lol. The KC comes to mind off the top of my head. Singletary performed well in the 1st half, line gets blown up twice and Dorsey is like... Gentlemen we're moving on.😂

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

 Ok. But the nothing you're describing is often 2 or 3 plays where the line gets blown up then he just quits calling running plays lol. The KC comes to mind off the top of my head. Singletary performed well in the 1st half, line gets blown up twice and Dorsey is like... Gentlemen we're moving on.😂

 

 

 

 

Yep...primarily because the drives usually go 3 and out.

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45 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

 It is if and only if Dorsey continues to call a balanced offense. Including today's game Singletary and Cook have combined for a 5.008(I just wanted to show it was over 5.0 lol) ypc this year. It's not that they can't, they just go through long stretches were they elect not to. 

 

 Imo Cook needs to be the featured back and Singletary needs to be the complimentary back. Cook is averaging 5.8 ypc & 9.2 ypr on the year. Both well ahead of Singletary.

 

 

I disagree. Cook is coming along well but he's not ready to be the starter. The Bills need Singletary's experience. He has a much better rapport with Josh and is a much better pass blocker.

 

Right now, the Bills coaching seems to be figuring out the 3 headed monster on Singletary, Cook, and Hines. 

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2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Yep...primarily because the drives usually go 3 and out.

 

 I hear ya. They have to be willing to sacrifice a drive or two to keep the running game going. They do it all the time because they're passing too much.

 

I personally think it's because he's more comfortable calling pass plays. Former QB plus didn't he run the passing attack last year?

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I disagree. Cook is coming along well but he's not ready to be the starter. The Bills need Singletary's experience. He has a much better rapport with Josh and is a much better pass blocker.

 

Right now, the Bills coaching seems to be figuring out the 3 headed monster on Singletary, Cook, and Hines. 

Speaking of Hines, while I haven’t been overly thrilled with him, that was a clutch spin move to get the 1st on a 3rd and 8. 

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3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I disagree. Cook is coming along well but he's not ready to be the starter. The Bills need Singletary's experience. He has a much better rapport with Josh and is a much better pass blocker.

 

Right now, the Bills coaching seems to be figuring out the 3 headed monster on Singletary, Cook, and Hines. 

 

 And every week, for the last several, Cook has been stealing more and more of the attempts away from Singletary. Today it was nearly even Singletary 12, Cook 11.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

Speaking of Hines, while I haven’t been overly thrilled with him, that was a clutch spin move to get the 1st on a 3rd and 8. 

 

He hasn't gotten involved much in the offense but the plays he has been in for he has done pretty well in limited opportunities.

Just now, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

 And every week, for the last several, Cook has been stealing more and more of the attempts away from Singletary. Today it was nearly even Singletary 12, Cook 11.

 

 

 

Cook is really turning it up lately.

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Personally, I like the Singletary-Cook combo. They work well together. Devin is a much better blocker if Josh needs extra protection. Cook has the big play potential. When they need to grind out tough yards to close out games,  that’s Singletary’s role. 

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1 minute ago, Andy1 said:

Personally, I like the Singletary-Cook combo. They work well together. Devin is a much better blocker if Josh needs extra protection. Cook has the big play potential. When they need to grind out tough yards to close out games,  that’s Singletary’s role. 

Isn't Devin a FA after this season? I've always sensed he's a favorite of McD

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