So, reading the board, we lost again. 3-11. Sigh.

[BernieBill]

1 hour ago, ChicagoRic said:

Oh wait, that 11-3.  We won?  Again?  11-3 you say?  Excellent!

 

I guess I just got confused by the endless stream of:

 

The OC sucks.

Frazier sucks.

The defense sucks.

McKenzie sucks.

The tackling sucks.

 

Eff that.  This is a really good football team and a legit Superbowl contender.  Good teams win games, especially the close ones against talented teams in their own division.  Super happy today. 

You forgot to mention that Sean "Glory to God" McDermott also sucks, as does last night's tackling and defense (the OC and DC are extensions of Father McDermott).  The Bills have a transcendent Quarterback, the sole reason they are a Super Bowl contender.  Without Josh Allen and with literally every other player and coach on the team, the Bills might battle for a Wild Card spot and would never sniff the Super Bowl.  Sean McDermott is a horrible game manager and rides the coattails of the superstar QB to account for his Win-Loss record.  Sean McDermott contributes literally nothing to the success of the Buffalo Bills.  If the team can win in spite of the idiot, religious fanatic coach, so be it. 

[RJ (not THAT RJ)]

Just now, BernieBill said:

You forgot to mention that Sean "Glory to God" McDermott also sucks, as does last night's tackling and defense (the OC and DC are extensions of Father McDermott).  The Bills have a transcendent Quarterback, the sole reason they are a Super Bowl contender.  Without Josh Allen and with literally every other player and coach on the team, the Bills might battle for a Wild Card spot and would never sniff the Super Bowl.  Sean McDermott is a horrible game manager and rides the coattails of the superstar QB to account for his Win-Loss record.  Sean McDermott contributes literally nothing to the success of the Buffalo Bills.  If the team can win in spite of the idiot, religious fanatic coach, so be it. 

 

Satire is dead if this is a serious post. 

[ngbills]

Expectations. The better you are, the higher the standard. The prize is the Super Bowl victory. Not making the playoffs. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

6 minutes ago, BernieBill said:

You forgot to mention that Sean "Glory to God" McDermott also sucks, as does last night's tackling and defense (the OC and DC are extensions of Father McDermott).  The Bills have a transcendent Quarterback, the sole reason they are a Super Bowl contender.  Without Josh Allen and with literally every other player and coach on the team, the Bills might battle for a Wild Card spot and would never sniff the Super Bowl.  Sean McDermott is a horrible game manager and rides the coattails of the superstar QB to account for his Win-Loss record.  Sean McDermott contributes literally nothing to the success of the Buffalo Bills.  If the team can win in spite of the idiot, religious fanatic coach, so be it. 

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 

[oldmanfan]

We won a game in which, to me, we were outplayed.  The D line had a horrible game. Every time they ran to their right they gained a lot of yards.  Their O line blew guys off the ball all night.  And once Morse went down our O line suffered greatly.  We pulled it out because Josh is ridiculously talented.

[BernieBill]

2 minutes ago, RJ (not THAT RJ) said:

 

Satire is dead if this is a serious post. 

You're happy with last night's tackling and defense?  You like the fact that the Bills needed a Superhuman Josh Allen effort to eke out a game on their home field against a Miami team which got manhandled by San Fran and the Chargers?  You think Sean McDermott manages games well and prepares the defense to perform in big games?  McDermott is a lucky, lucky man.  The Bills drafted an amazing Quarterback.  You like how McDermott blew the playoff game in Kansas City last year after the amazing QB took the lead with 13 seconds left?  It is a serious post.  I hope McDermott continues to ride Josh Allen's success.  

[AlfaBill]

52 minutes ago, Governor said:

I was very discouraged after the game and felt really bad for Josh. There was a series towards the end where the coaching staff called a bunch of designed runs, not because they were changing things up, or saw something schematically, but because they knew the offensive line couldn’t block for 2 seconds for a pass play to develop. It felt like a total surrender and highlights the terrible job Beane has done over the years to protect the kid.

Not that I disagree but how do you know what the coaching staff did? 

[Freddie's Dead]

38 minutes ago, Heavy Kevi said:

 

Ok but McKenzie does suck. He is probably the weakest link.

 

Other than that, great game, great year. Let's get that Lombardi gosh dern it!

 

Bills FD stats

 

Diggs - 66 on 142 targets

Davis - 31 on 77 targets

McKittrick - 26 on 60 targets

Knox - 22 on 58 targets

 

Clearly, McKittrick blows.  Completely unreliable.  You wanna go by drops?  Here are the drop stats:

 

Diggs - 7

Davis - 7 

Motor - 6

McKittrick - 5

Knox - 2 (???)

 

He's had 80 FD catches and 19 FD runs in his 5 years here.  He's 5th on the team this year in FD's after Josh, Motor, Diggs, and Davis.  Has he made every play?  No.  He had a really bad game in KC, and dropped 2 FD balls last week.  But his history is that he just makes plays, game in and game out.  Keep hatin', haterz.  I'm sticking with McKittrick.

[AlfaBill]

7 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

We won a game in which, to me, we were outplayed.  The D line had a horrible game. Every time they ran to their right they gained a lot of yards.  Their O line blew guys off the ball all night.  And once Morse went down our O line suffered greatly.  We pulled it out because Josh is ridiculously talented.

Really? The bills led for most of the game though. They had a brutal 3rd Q. 

[JerseyBills]

55 minutes ago, Governor said:

I was very discouraged after the game and felt really bad for Josh. There was a series towards the end where the coaching staff called a bunch of designed runs, not because they were changing things up, or saw something schematically, but because they knew the offensive line couldn’t block for 2 seconds for a pass play to develop. It felt like a total surrender and highlights the terrible job Beane has done over the years to protect the kid.

OL was overall pretty good imo and I don't agree with Beane hate about the OL.

We paid our franchise LT. Paid 1 of the best centers in the gm. Drafted a RT in 2nd round. Got Staffold who has been  a bit His biggest mistake was trading Teller who turned into an all Pro. You put Teller on this line and we're top 5

[Codyny13]

Again, no coach or player is above reproach when warranted. We all support this team, and when you have your heart in something, feelings come out, that’s just how it is. Josh Allen covers up a lot of bad by running every play on that 4th quarter drive. He essentially saved the game after 5 straight disgusting offensive series. There’s still a disconnect and lack of fluidity in the short to intermediate pass game, and a constant divergence from the run game. The loss of Morse, and insertion of Van Roten, Hart, and Quessenberry…and still looking to throw the ball down the field 30 yards was baffling to me, as was running parallel to the line of scrimmage behind Hart, who ended up pancaked and Singletary on his back 4 yards behind the line of scrimmage. I do believe that it’s always execution over play calling but you need to help your players on the field, and sometimes protect them. Know your personnel and adapt. Dorsey is still inexperienced and i expect them to get better. All that being said, this team has huge heart, and finding ways against good teams.

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, ChicagoRic said:

Oh wait, that 11-3.  We won?  Again?  11-3 you say?  Excellent!

 

I guess I just got confused by the endless stream of:

 

The OC sucks.

Frazier sucks.

The defense sucks.

McKenzie sucks.

The tackling sucks.

 

Eff that.  This is a really good football team and a legit Superbowl contender.  Good teams win games, especially the close ones against talented teams in their own division.  Super happy today. 

Yup, because when it comes right down to it, as a fan, there are really only two parameters to be concerned with, and those two are the win and the loss columns, we are 11-3 the fish are 8-6. 
 

GO BILLS!!!

 

 

[Trock]

2 hours ago, Draconator said:

Misery loves company

This thread is miserable to say the least. 

[Motorin']

1 hour ago, Governor said:

I was very discouraged after the game and felt really bad for Josh. There was a series towards the end where the coaching staff called a bunch of designed runs, not because they were changing things up, or saw something schematically, but because they knew the offensive line couldn’t block for 2 seconds for a pass play to develop. It felt like a total surrender and highlights the terrible job Beane has done over the years to protect the kid.

 

Jesus Christ. The game tying and game winning drives felt like the Bills were surrendering? 

 

Josh Allen running for 44 yards right down their throat in a snow storm felt like surrendering?

 

Alrighty then. 

 

[ndirish1978]

Tackling does suck

[AuntieEm]

1 hour ago, BillsFan2313 said:

 

We lose to all those teams if we put up 32 points? Interesting. 

 

  And don't forget the defense only allowing 29 points.  Guess if you are one of the above teams they get different results based in those same scores.

[wiskibreth]

Many things can be true all at the same time.

[sullim4]

2 hours ago, ChicagoRic said:

The tackling sucks.

 

This is a football fundamental, and this defense is absolutely atrocious at it.  They go for style points, trying to punch the ball out, rather than make the tackle and stop the runner from reaching the line to gain.

 

Please look at this play again and tell me the tackling is acceptable.  This isn't a one-time thing either, it feels like this happens several times each game:

 

 

[djp14150]

2 hours ago, ChicagoRic said:

Oh wait, that 11-3.  We won?  Again?  11-3 you say?  Excellent!

 

I guess I just got confused by the endless stream of:

 

The OC sucks.

Frazier sucks.

The defense sucks.

McKenzie sucks.

The tackling sucks.

 

Eff that.  This is a really good football team and a legit Superbowl contender.  Good teams win games, especially the close ones against talented teams in their own division.  Super happy today. 

Alcohol induced…..

[MRW]

1 minute ago, sullim4 said:

 

This is a football fundamental, and this defense is absolutely atrocious at it.  They go for style points, trying to punch the ball out, rather than make the tackle and stop the runner from reaching the line to gain.

 

Please look at this play again and tell me the tackling is acceptable.  This isn't a one-time thing either, it feels like this happens several times each game:

 

 

 

That really turned out to be a game-saving horse collar tackle by Johnson.

[Mike in Horseheads]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

You know, the Coffee at Starbucks blows...

I was there 3 times this morning 

Did ya just go there for the bathroom and had to buy something?

[oldmanfan]

1 hour ago, AlfaBill said:

Really? The bills led for most of the game though. They had a brutal 3rd Q. 

In spite of getting blown off the ball on D and in spite of uninspired play by the O line.

[AlfaBill]

Just now, oldmanfan said:

In spite of getting blown off the ball on D and in spite of uninspired play by the O line.

It’s funny because last week the O couldn’t close and our D was hot. Different ways to win. 
as an aside does anyone else think that Waddle’s ‘waddle’ is so bad? It’s ghey in the truest form. 

[CoudyBills]

3 hours ago, ChicagoRic said:

Oh wait, that 11-3.  We won?  Again?  11-3 you say?  Excellent!

 

I guess I just got confused by the endless stream of:

 

The OC sucks.

Frazier sucks.

The defense sucks.

McKenzie sucks.

The tackling sucks.

 

Eff that.  This is a really good football team and a legit Superbowl contender.  Good teams win games, especially the close ones against talented teams in their own division.  Super happy today. 

Nice flex.  I suppose you're going to keep this energy if one of those reasons costs them another playoff loss right?  I'm happy they won, but there are some real issues.

[AuntieEm]

1 hour ago, AlfaBill said:

It’s funny because last week the O couldn’t close and our D was hot. Different ways to win. 
as an aside does anyone else think that Waddle’s ‘waddle’ is so bad? It’s ghey in the truest form. 

 

   I'd like to see a designed no waddle dance by white  when he breaks up passes to waddle.  Even if he gets a taunting penalty for it.  Like do a waddle then sweep his arms like refs when signaling ball sailed out of bounds as if to tell waddle to get the waddle out oc here.  Or he takes the flattened waddle hand brings it waddling inverted under his chin as to say not happening waddle.   Bet Josh could help with his penchant for handshake moves he could help design a waddle rebuttal celebration when he's stopped.

Edited December 18, 2022 by AuntieEm

[snamsnoops]

Bills R Good........ enough.... To win it all!

[Beck Water]

4 hours ago, ChicagoRic said:

Oh wait, that 11-3.  We won?  Again?  11-3 you say?  Excellent!

 

I guess I just got confused by the endless stream of:

 

The OC sucks.

Frazier sucks.

The defense sucks.

McKenzie sucks.

The tackling sucks.

 

Eff that.  This is a really good football team and a legit Superbowl contender.  Good teams win games, especially the close ones against talented teams in their own division.  Super happy today. 

 

Eleven and Three? 

Now how can that be?

From reading this board I’m confused

 

Our OC is bad

Our best WR is sad*

The rest of them suck and can’t catch**

 

Our coach is McClappy

and he is unhappy

our QB threw 0 time TD

 

We can’t stop the run

Our defense is Done

Our DC can’t plan or adjust

 

And yet Christmas is here

And the playoffs are near

Could it be we don’t actually suck?

 

 

*or justifiably frustrated due to in-game grading his teammates mistakes

**except Beasley, who will come from retirement and fix everything, and Shakir, who the coaches unfairly won’t play

 

[BillsFan2313]

3 hours ago, BernieBill said:

You forgot to mention that Sean "Glory to God" McDermott also sucks, as does last night's tackling and defense (the OC and DC are extensions of Father McDermott).  The Bills have a transcendent Quarterback, the sole reason they are a Super Bowl contender.  Without Josh Allen and with literally every other player and coach on the team, the Bills might battle for a Wild Card spot and would never sniff the Super Bowl.  Sean McDermott is a horrible game manager and rides the coattails of the superstar QB to account for his Win-Loss record.  Sean McDermott contributes literally nothing to the success of the Buffalo Bills.  If the team can win in spite of the idiot, religious fanatic coach, so be it. 

 

Like Belichick rode Bradys coatails? This just in, elite QBs make HC's look good. Shocking. 

 

[Yawning Frog]

3 hours ago, UKBillFan said:

 

Lewis is a far weaker link than McKenzie.

yup

[Rew]

4 hours ago, UKBillFan said:

We play like we did yesterday against the Chiefs, the Bengals or, if we get that far, the 49ers, Eagles or Cowboys and we get beaten. And there are weaknesses which we are relucant to or cannot address. If this was a one off, fine, but a lot of the issues shown yesterday have been persistent across the season.

 

An excellent win and a strong record this season is all well and good but improvement is required if we want to make and win the Super Bowl. I think that's all most are saying.

You made the same comment a week ago about the dolphins... And here we are...

[PrimeTime101]

5 hours ago, ChicagoRic said:

Oh wait, that 11-3.  We won?  Again?  11-3 you say?  Excellent!

 

I guess I just got confused by the endless stream of:

 

The OC sucks.

Frazier sucks.

The defense sucks.

McKenzie sucks.

The tackling sucks.

 

Eff that.  This is a really good football team and a legit Superbowl contender.  Good teams win games, especially the close ones against talented teams in their own division.  Super happy today. 

complaining about people complaining about other people complaining. Im Game

[JTown]

5 hours ago, BillsFan2313 said:

 

We lose to all those teams if we put up 32 points? Interesting. 

Yes

 

What happened last year in KC?  Shouldn't  take more than say 13 seconds to figure it out. 

[HomeskillitMoorman]

I’ll always take the win. I just don’t think this recipe of Josh having to make superhuman plays for us to win because we lack quality playcalling and creativity in play design is one that’s the most beneficial come playoff time. 
 

If you watch some of what teams like the Eagles and 49ers do, they do some creative things that alleviate the load from their QB’s. We need some of that. 

[BuffBillsForLife]

The tackling does in fact suck.  Except they're weirdly good on 3rd+4th and short.

[Utah John]

We're all thinking about how good the Bills were to start the season, before all the injuries. Since then it's been a weekly adventure to see how well the subs would hold up, and the games have gotten a lot closer.  Our starting 22 (24?) is definitely outstanding, all working together, but when we lose most of our starters in the defensive backfield, or on the O line, things just don't work as well.  But there are enough good parts of the team that they can still keep winning.  Other teams also have injuries, and degraded capabilities in sections of their teams.  Last night the Bills O line was devastated and Josh didn't have time to take very much advantage of the Dolphins D-back injuries, but he could do enough to win.  That's just the nature of the game.  

 

The Bills beat the Jets with an excellent defense, they beat the Dolphins with a dangerous offense and a good D line, they beat the Lions which as everyone can see is a tough game (the Lions only loss the past 8 games was to the Bills), they handled three games in 12 days with two trips to Detroit, and they beat the Chiefs in KC.  It's our nature to worry about the flaws instead of relaxing and enjoying the success.

[section122]

5 hours ago, UKBillFan said:

We play like we did yesterday against the Chiefs, the Bengals or, if we get that far, the 49ers, Eagles or Cowboys and we get beaten. And there are weaknesses which we are relucant to or cannot address. If this was a one off, fine, but a lot of the issues shown yesterday have been persistent across the season.

 

An excellent win and a strong record this season is all well and good but improvement is required if we want to make and win the Super Bowl. I think that's all most are saying.

 

The chiefs just went to ot with the worst team in the league they must suck.

 

The bengals lost to the 6-8 steelers the bills beat by 35 they must suck.

 

The eagles only beat the 3-11 bears by 5 they must sick.

 

The niners lost to those 3-11 bears they must suck.

 

Cowboys just lost in ot to the jaguars they must suck.

 

So I guess nobody is good enough to win the super bowl this year....

 

 

[UKBillFan]

21 minutes ago, Rew said:

You made the same comment a week ago about the dolphins... And here we are...

 

I can't quite bring myself to make the same comment about the Bears but perhaps I should, for karma reasons.

[folz]

What would this board be like if the Bills:

 

Lost to 5-8 Jax in OT (Dallas)

Needed OT to beat the 1-11-1 Houston Texans (Chiefs)

Lost by 10 to the 5-8 Browns (Balt)

Only beat the 3-10 Bears by 5 points (Philly)

Needed OT to beat the 4-8-1 Colts by 3 (Minn)

 

Now how is it again that we can't beat the other top teams in the league? That is 5 of the other 7 teams with the best records in the league (and Cinci is currently down by 3 to the 6-7 Bucs). Perspective is always a good thing.

[smward8]

We aren't going to prevent teams from scoring at all, nor will we score on every possession (although we did it last year).  I get as frustrated as anyone when our guys miss on a play, but eventually I let it go.  The only things that really drive me nuts are stupid penalties, and bad calls by the refs

[JDHillFan]

5 hours ago, UKBillFan said:

We play like we did yesterday against the Chiefs, the Bengals or, if we get that far, the 49ers, Eagles or Cowboys and we get beaten. And there are weaknesses which we are relucant to or cannot address. If this was a one off, fine, but a lot of the issues shown yesterday have been persistent across the season.

 

An excellent win and a strong record this season is all well and good but improvement is required if we want to make and win the Super Bowl. I think that's all most are saying.

Agree. As of now Chiefs, Cowboys, Eagles all DOMINATED today.