It’s gonna be cold in the Windy City next week….

[Process]

2 minutes ago, jethro_tull said:

the bills should not overlook the bears.  it has the classic look of a trap game and a letdown game.  

the bears are no. 1 in rushing mainly because justin fields is a very good third down open field runner.  they could keep the ball away from our offense.  

 

Frazier has his flaws but he's proven that he has Lamar completely figured out. Fields is Lamar with an even worse offense around him. 

 

Again Bears are a dream matchup.

[Doc]

7 minutes ago, jethro_tull said:

the bills should not overlook the bears.  it has the classic look of a trap game and a letdown game.  

the bears are no. 1 in rushing mainly because justin fields is a very good third down open field runner.  they could keep the ball away from our offense.  

 

 

They won't.  They know that if they win the game, they lock-up the AFCE.

[ArtVandalay]

9 hours ago, Process said:

Bears are the dream matchup for us. They have zero pass rush. Cold doesn't bother Josh. He should shred them. 

Cold does not bother Josh... but... it does bother some of his receivers.

 

We should roll the Bears... should... 

 

Honestly, i would love to go up big then give Captain James Cook a healthy dose of touches. Need to get him primed for playoffs and Dingleberry out of the lineup. Need juice back there. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

8 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Chicago Is one of the biggest cities in the world

 

Buffalo cannot and will never compete with Chicago.. And a Super Bowl would never be played in Buffalo

 

dome or not

I agree that Buffalo probably could

never get a SB. But they could get more national sporting events and could generate more revenue from an indoor stadium than an outdoor one.

 

Again, no one is building open-air stadiums anymore. You can build something with a roof for about the same cost of what the bills plan on paying. And if they love the idea of cold games, just have a retractable roof.

 

I know this is beating a dead horse, but the new proposed stadium seems like such a bad investment. 

 

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

22 minutes ago, Process said:

Frazier has his flaws but he's proven that he has Lamar completely figured out. Fields is Lamar with an even worse offense around him. 

 

Again Bears are a dream matchup.

I agree. It’s a total mismatch. I don’t usually say that but it is. 

[nedboy7]

20 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

Cold does not bother Josh... but... it does bother some of his receivers.

 

We should roll the Bears... should... 

 

Honestly, i would love to go up big then give Captain James Cook a healthy dose of touches. Need to get him primed for playoffs and Dingleberry out of the lineup. Need juice back there. 

Singletary was key on that last drive when Dorsey finally called some run plays.  I don’t see Cook carrying linemen 5 yards for tough runs. 

[Gary Marangi]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

The line on this game is going to be quite high

Bills -10

[947]

I'll be at the game. Was hoping for weather in the 30s, oh well. The wind inside the stadium usually isn't like Buffalo, I've been to probably 20 games there.

[jethro_tull]

11 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

But... They will build a dome! Bears will eventually move out of Soldier and go to Arlington Heights, Illinois.... They will build a sports complex/District like SoFi in S.Cali... Get a SuperBowl in Chicago  

 

It's coming...Just down the road. 

 

 

Never thought I would see the day but the Bears are giving double middle fingers to the city of Chicago and quite honestly they deserve it.  Most die hard Bears fans have long since left the city anyway.  

[Buffalo716]

4 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I agree that Buffalo probably could

never get a SB. But they could get more national sporting events and could generate more revenue from an indoor stadium than an outdoor one.

 

Again, no one is building open-air stadiums anymore. You can build something with a roof for about the same cost of what the bills plan on paying. And if they love the idea of cold games, just have a retractable roof.

 

I know this is beating a dead horse, but the new proposed stadium seems like such a bad investment. 

 

 

 

It’s your opinion… But their are absolutely going to be football only Stadiums built in the next 10 years

 

The stadium study that the bills did for close to half a decade… Came to the conclusion that there is no economic boom to a region from a new stadium

 

In fact all of their world class data punchers said it would bring the amount Of money that a new target would bring in western New York

 

Other cities can build multi sport complexes Because their cities have billions of dollars in them… Fortune 500 companies to buy all of the club seats

 

Buffalo doesn’t have one fortune 500 company… Terry Pegula does not have money to be made with a new stadium

 

Hence why Erie county owns the Ralph and will own the new stadium… Because over a 30 year lease they will make a couple bucks

 

Buffalo is a city of 250,000 people… They said from the get-go they don’t want a convention center… And it’s not because They live in the past… All the data says It wouldn’t add much to the economy

 

 

[Bob Jones]

14 hours ago, Doc said:

Fields will miss that game, right?

Not unless he gets hurt in the last quarter of their game today. He looks pretty good today.

[The Wiz]

[TheBrownBear]

Looks like McDermott needs to fire up the "I wish it were colder" silkscreen t-shirt maker this week!

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

It’s your opinion… But their are absolutely going to be football only Stadiums built in the next 10 years

 

The stadium study that the bills did for close to half a decade… Came to the conclusion that there is no economic boom to a region from a new stadium

 

In fact all of their world class data punchers said it would bring the amount Of money that a new target would bring in western New York

 

Other cities can build multi sport complexes Because their cities have billions of dollars in them… Fortune 500 companies to buy all of the club seats

 

Buffalo doesn’t have one fortune 500 company… Terry Pegula does not have money to be made with a new stadium

 

Hence why Erie county owns the Ralph and will own the new stadium… Because over a 30 year lease they will make a couple bucks

 

Buffalo is a city of 250,000 people… They said from the get-go they don’t want a convention center… And it’s not because They live in the past… All the data says It wouldn’t add much to the economy

 

 

Not doubting you, but I haven’t seen anything that analyzes the value of the stadium with a roof versus no roof. The only thing I saw was value of stadium itself, and then cost estimates of a roof.  This is what I have read— again, maybe I missed it or there is something in another document:

 

https://esd.ny.gov/esd-media-center/reports/preliminary-buffalo-bills-stadium-analysis

 

And I do think more generally when you are thinking about corporate sponsors and boxes, you have to look regional for a team like the Bills— ie, Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse. 

 

Finally, I think if cities like Indy, Detroit, and Minnesota are able to crunch the numbers on a roofed stadium to make it work, then Buffalo could too.  Again, if it is more of a decision based on, “we want cold weather to impact games,” then, okay, that’s fine. But I still can’t fathom how the ROI would be better with an open air stadium versus a closed one, even if you tack on another $300M on the cost. 
 

 

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

5 hours ago, jethro_tull said:

Never thought I would see the day but the Bears are giving double middle fingers to the city of Chicago and quite honestly they deserve it.  Most die hard Bears fans have long since left the city anyway.  

Still has 2.7 million people, the 2020 Census had Chicago gaining +2% in population from 2010 to 2020...

 

 

...They must be coming back?

Edited December 18, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois

[Big Turk]

And there is a good chance we are going to be dealing with widespread heavy synoptic snow, followed by cold and then more lake effect snow.

 

Next Thursday- Sunday could be a real mess in WNY

Edited December 19, 2022 by Big Turk

[Casey D]

17 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

They don't get the wind like we do despite the nickname.  Also, I don't think they've had to move their home game twice in the last eight years to another location because of snow.

It's called the windy city because of blowhard politicians spewing hot air, not the wind.

[RyanC883]

19 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Chicago Is one of the biggest cities in the world

 

Buffalo cannot and will never compete with Chicago.. And a Super Bowl would never be played in Buffalo

 

dome or not

 

final 4 games and other tournaments could be 

6 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

It’s your opinion… But their are absolutely going to be football only Stadiums built in the next 10 years

 

The stadium study that the bills did for close to half a decade… Came to the conclusion that there is no economic boom to a region from a new stadium

 

In fact all of their world class data punchers said it would bring the amount Of money that a new target would bring in western New York

 

Other cities can build multi sport complexes Because their cities have billions of dollars in them… Fortune 500 companies to buy all of the club seats

 

Buffalo doesn’t have one fortune 500 company… Terry Pegula does not have money to be made with a new stadium

 

Hence why Erie county owns the Ralph and will own the new stadium… Because over a 30 year lease they will make a couple bucks

 

Buffalo is a city of 250,000 people… They said from the get-go they don’t want a convention center… And it’s not because They live in the past… All the data says It wouldn’t add much to the economy

 

 

 

put a dome near niagara falls. would be a tourist attraction for conventions, final 4 fames and a potential SB as you could use Toronto hotel rooms. 

[Airseven]

I expect the Bills to eek out another close one. But Fields will run wild. Smart money is mashing the Bears with however many points they get.

Edited December 19, 2022 by Airseven

[Mojo44]

42 minutes ago, Casey D said:

It's called the windy city because of blowhard politicians spewing hot air, not the wind.

Interesting. Not that I doubted you at all but I went and googled why Chicago is called the Windy City. Of course you are quite right. And all these years I had that assumption that it was because it was really windy there all the time as in the weather. I learned something tonight.

Edited December 19, 2022 by Mojo44

[jlgarsh]

20 hours ago, Tortured Soul said:

So hard to imagine McDermott wearing a shirt with any kind of message.

Trust the Process?

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

44 minutes ago, Casey D said:

It's called the windy city because of blowhard politicians spewing hot air, not the wind.

wow— / never knew that! Thanks! 

[Da webster guy]

Montgomery is a beast at RB, better than Mostert who just chewed us up pretty good.  We will see a lot of that guy on Saturday, but overall they're just not a very good squad this year.

[nucci]

I read somewhere that this is Bills weather, football weather and the game was meant to be played in these conditions

[taglientep]

On 12/18/2022 at 12:02 AM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

At least their fans don’t have to say “build a dome!!”

I think they are getting one

[Buffalo_Stampede]

It’s going to be windy in the “Windy City”, you don’t say?

 

[CSBill]

I was thinking about going, but now, I will only think about if ticket prices fall below the temperature.

[MiltonWaddams]

I had earmarked the Chicago game as my away game to travel to this year. Love the city. Then the schedule came out. Can’t do a Christmas Eve game. Wonder how many Bills fans will be in Chicago for this one considering the timing.

[H2o]

3 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

I had earmarked the Chicago game as my away game to travel to this year. Love the city. Then the schedule came out. Can’t do a Christmas Eve game. Wonder how many Bills fans will be in Chicago for this one considering the timing.

Only the local Bills fans I would imagine. 

[Matt_In_NH]

Bring the chicken broth

[nedboy7]

We need a portable dome. 

[Chicagobills]

On 12/17/2022 at 11:02 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

At least their fans don’t have to say “build a dome!!”

There was plenty of fans begging for a done and they are 99% going to be building a dome in Arlington Heights. Buffalo dumb not to build a dome 

[Matt_In_NH]

Cold is ok, is it going to be windy?

[nucci]

3 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Cold is ok, is it going to be windy?

yes, very

[PaattMaann]

4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

It’s going to be windy in the “Windy City”, you don’t say?

 

 

obligatory post of "the acutal wind isnt why Chicago is nicknamed the windy city"

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, nucci said:

yes, very

THat sucks...wind is just an equalizer

[nucci]

8 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

THat sucks...wind is just an equalizer

it's the worst

[jethro_tull]

4 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said:

I had earmarked the Chicago game as my away game to travel to this year. Love the city. Then the schedule came out. Can’t do a Christmas Eve game. Wonder how many Bills fans will be in Chicago for this one considering the timing.

used to be very nice, my oldest daughter moved away, conditions have deteriorated in the past few years.  

[LABILLBACKER]

6 hours ago, nucci said:

I read somewhere that this is Bills weather, football weather and the game was meant to be played in these conditions

I read somewhere that Josh Allen and that bazooka can throw right thru 40mph winds. Ask Belichick.....well at least the ball won't be wet.

[henry jones]

Prolly should just play all games in a dome.  Generic, ugly domes for everybody!!!