Italian Bills Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Ok… yesterday it happened what everyone here dreamed: - loss of KC, PHINS and JETS. This is our master chance to get what we deserve: THE FIRST SEED ! For the last years we have been pretty good but when it comes to the last game before the SB we were always forced to play in that hated field called Arrowhead because we have never been the n.1 seed. The road is still a long way to go, but we are a great team and getting healthier week after week we can dominate every team, i do not have doubt on it. Another thing i would love to ask you is: we play almost always the nickel; i noted that we suffer much in the soft spots in the middle of the field with short throws, so i was wondering if with 3 LBs at the same time, Edmunds, Milano and Klein it could help to close those spots forcing the QBs to go deep where we have a great secondary when all healthy. And with the 4-3 we could also strengthen the run D. Opinions ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) Sorry, I don't speak Italian. But how bout them Bills! Edited December 5, 2022 by The Wiz 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 4-3 would likely help the run d, but would hurt the pass d a ton. we'd take our nickle corner of the field. now our nickle corner has been really good in the past and is having a kinda crappy season this year, but the LBs we have behind our two starters are cheeks. we only go 4-3 when the opponents go heavy jumbo and even throw an extra lineman on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 #1 seed indeed...now that'sa a spicy meat-a-ball! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 One game at a time, beat the Jets this coming weekend. 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: One game at a time, beat the Jets this coming weekend. I said “.. long way to go” … the road is still full of traps, but if we play at best … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I still think the Jets and Bengals games are the toughest games left. If the Bills can win those games, then I think they will run the table. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 This guy has 297 posts and I think every one of them is a thread. 1 4 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Again on my own Going down the only road I've ever known. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Again on my own Going down the only road I've ever known. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 35 minutes ago, Italian Bills said: Ok… yesterday it happened what everyone here dreamed: - loss of KC, PHINS and JETS. This is our master chance to get what we deserve: THE FIRST SEED ! For the last years we have been pretty good but when it comes to the last game before the SB we were always forced to play in that hated field called Arrowhead because we have never been the n.1 seed. The road is still a long way to go, but we are a great team and getting healthier week after week we can dominate every team, i do not have doubt on it. Another thing i would love to ask you is: we play almost always the nickel; i noted that we suffer much in the soft spots in the middle of the field with short throws, so i was wondering if with 3 LBs at the same time, Edmunds, Milano and Klein it could help to close those spots forcing the QBs to go deep where we have a great secondary when all healthy. And with the 4-3 we could also strengthen the run D. Opinions ? Taron Johnson is a good tackler, and can more effectively man-match with a TE than someone like Klein. Klein they brought in because the backups just weren't instinctively quick enough. Since we play a ton of cover 2/cover 4/Palms, its also largely a communication defense as people move who they are covering based on the offense look. The middle of the field is definitely the area you can most take advantage of, but you have edmunds and milano in there, and depending on leverage you might have a safety roll into a rat defender role. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Thread title aptly describes my reaction to any number of posts to this august exchange of ideas we call 'TSW'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 è stata una bella domenica! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 “we deserve”? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 What we need through these final 5 games? Health, health and more health 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 44 minutes ago, Italian Bills said: Ok… yesterday it happened what everyone here dreamed: - loss of KC, PHINS and JETS. This is our master chance to get what we deserve: THE FIRST SEED ! For the last years we have been pretty good but when it comes to the last game before the SB we were always forced to play in that hated field called Arrowhead because we have never been the n.1 seed. The road is still a long way to go, but we are a great team and getting healthier week after week we can dominate every team, i do not have doubt on it. Another thing i would love to ask you is: we play almost always the nickel; i noted that we suffer much in the soft spots in the middle of the field with short throws, so i was wondering if with 3 LBs at the same time, Edmunds, Milano and Klein it could help to close those spots forcing the QBs to go deep where we have a great secondary when all healthy. And with the 4-3 we could also strengthen the run D. Opinions ? gotta remember that defensive formation is not just dictated by system and optimal personnel but also contingent on what the opposing offense is presenting. So you don’t just get away from your base formation (nickel for the Bills) to “try things out.” The Bills run defense has been fine the last few weeks. Chubb was invisible. Both Lions’ backs (both very good) were under 4 ypc. Stevenson, who has destroyed defenses at times this year, had one good chunk run on like 10 total carries. I think you’re creating problems in promotion of your idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Italian Bills said: Ok… yesterday it happened what everyone here dreamed: - loss of KC, PHINS and JETS. This is our master chance to get what we deserve: THE FIRST SEED ! For the last years we have been pretty good but when it comes to the last game before the SB we were always forced to play in that hated field called Arrowhead because we have never been the n.1 seed. The road is still a long way to go, but we are a great team and getting healthier week after week we can dominate every team, i do not have doubt on it. Another thing i would love to ask you is: we play almost always the nickel; i noted that we suffer much in the soft spots in the middle of the field with short throws, so i was wondering if with 3 LBs at the same time, Edmunds, Milano and Klein it could help to close those spots forcing the QBs to go deep where we have a great secondary when all healthy. And with the 4-3 we could also strengthen the run D. Opinions ? I've been preaching this right along. If we do this, not only can we stop the run , but we can also rotate our LBs on blitzes. If we double Wilson with White and Hamlin along with Rhodes and Poyer taking away Moore, we should be able to keep the Jets off the field. Edited December 5, 2022 by nosejob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 44 minutes ago, colin said: 4-3 would likely help the run d, but would hurt the pass d a ton. we'd take our nickle corner of the field. now our nickle corner has been really good in the past and is having a kinda crappy season this year, but the LBs we have behind our two starters are cheeks. we only go 4-3 when the opponents go heavy jumbo and even throw an extra lineman on the pitch. They are more likely to do a 5-1-5 than a 4-3-4 msny teams use 3WR sets. If thry go 2 TEs then they can move Milano up to rush/ run stuff or thry are aZ5-2-4 where Miller at LB playing the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: Sorry, I don't speak Italian. But how bout them Bills! Just say "Bah Fangul!!" to the next Italian person you meet. I'm sure that will go over well with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: Just say "Bah Fangul!!" to the next Italian person you meet. I'm sure that will go over well with them. Same to you 👍 Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) The Bills are capable of making this run if they get and stay healthy. Even if they dont, I am not scared of playing in KC and no one else should be either. KC is a tough out either way and we have shown we can beat them. Stadium doesnt matter. I dont care about the "but but but we havent beaten them there in the playoffs." We havent beaten them there in the playoffs... yet. I do want the division though. I think I would puke if Miami won the division. Edited December 5, 2022 by Scott7975 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Here we go, here we go, here we go.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 @Italian Bills OP, question: with the night games (like 8:15pm, which is 2:15am Italian time), do you stay up and watch? Or do tape delay? I will be in Italy for the Miami game and am debating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 hours ago, nosejob said: I've been preaching this right along. If we do this, not only can we stop the run , but we can also rotate our LBs on blitzes. If we double Wilson with White and Hamlin along with Rhodes and Poyer taking away Moore, we should be able to keep the Jets off the field. And what about Davis, Berrios, Conklin, RBs? No way we double Wilson and Moore. Our coverage will suffer without Taron. There’s a reason he usually plays 💯 of the symbols. Imo, 3 LBs is only good vs super run heavy teams that are lacking weapons in the pass game. Taron is a beast vs the run for a CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Both. Oh wait, wrong thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just. Keep. Winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Now I want to see what type of heart and character this team has. We control our destiny, we cannot afford to lose again this season. Hopefully we only gain steam here like last season, go into the playoffs with a team ending the season playing its best football consistently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 32 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said: @Italian Bills OP, question: with the night games (like 8:15pm, which is 2:15am Italian time), do you stay up and watch? Or do tape delay? I will be in Italy for the Miami game and am debating. When games are at that time, i can’t stand up so late because the next morning i’d be like a zombie at work 😅 I have NFL GAME PASS PRO, so i watch games during the lunch time and after work, without reading anything about Americans sports but NY Post Knicks. 36 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said: @Italian Bills OP, question: with the night games (like 8:15pm, which is 2:15am Italian time), do you stay up and watch? Or do tape delay? I will be in Italy for the Miami game and am debating. Why in Italy ? Vacations ? Work ? And where will you stay ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Again on my own Going down the only road I've ever known. I've made up my mind. I ain't wasting no more time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 38 minutes ago, Italian Bills said: When games are at that time, i can’t stand up so late because the next morning i’d be like a zombie at work 😅 I have NFL GAME PASS PRO, so i watch games during the lunch time and after work, without reading anything about Americans sports but NY Post Knicks. Why in Italy ? Vacations ? Work ? And where will you stay ? A work project in Bolzano. Will be there about six days, heard it’s pretty beautiful up in the mountains. I’ll probably go airplane mode till Sunday morning and then watch the game before we head out for some kind of walk/hike (whatever is possible with two little kids). What part of Italy are you based in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Logic said: è stata una bella domenica! Hakuna matata? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said: A work project in Bolzano. Will be there about six days, heard it’s pretty beautiful up in the mountains. I’ll probably go airplane mode till Sunday morning and then watch the game before we head out for some kind of walk/hike (whatever is possible with two little kids). What part of Italy are you based in? I’m not too far, look for Morbegno (SO) and you’ll get me, i’m around 5 hours far from there, by car obviously. You’ll find Bolzano and the Alps wonderful my friend, surrounded by great mountains and beautiful landscapes. What kind of job take you here ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 5 hours ago, Einstein said: This guy has 297 posts and I think every one of them is a thread. Not so - many replys within his threads.......many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 hours ago, Italian Bills said: Ok… yesterday it happened what everyone here dreamed: - loss of KC, PHINS and JETS. This is our master chance to get what we deserve: THE FIRST SEED ! For the last years we have been pretty good but when it comes to the last game before the SB we were always forced to play in that hated field called Arrowhead because we have never been the n.1 seed. The road is still a long way to go, but we are a great team and getting healthier week after week we can dominate every team, i do not have doubt on it. Another thing i would love to ask you is: we play almost always the nickel; i noted that we suffer much in the soft spots in the middle of the field with short throws, so i was wondering if with 3 LBs at the same time, Edmunds, Milano and Klein it could help to close those spots forcing the QBs to go deep where we have a great secondary when all healthy. And with the 4-3 we could also strengthen the run D. Opinions ? I'm definitely not a fan of the nickel base defense crap. Much more of a traditional 4-3 guy but to be honest probably like the 3-4 a bit more especially with an aggressive coordinator that knows how to properly run it like Belichik in NE. But I think this defense is going to have to continue to adapt either way especially since we have Klein back which is as good as you can get in midseason dumpster diving in terms of a guy who can still play and knows the system. He's a gritty throwback player and I've always liked his style of play. And he's inching closer to making some big plays for this unit again including the INT he dropped a few weeks ago. Knew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 hours ago, NewEra said: And what about Davis, Berrios, Conklin, RBs? No way we double Wilson and Moore. Our coverage will suffer without Taron. There’s a reason he usually plays 💯 of the symbols. Imo, 3 LBs is only good vs super run heavy teams that are lacking weapons in the pass game. Taron is a beast vs the run for a CB Are you suggesting that they can go 5 wide with a back?....or 2? I'm not a math wizard, but....is that possible? I don't think White would have the time for all those progressions. Besides Milano and Edmunds can cover at least Conklin? Take away Wilson, Moore and Conklin, we should still be able to stop the run game and run blitz. IDK, 49 years of following football and this team, I guess I have my own opinion. 18 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: I'm definitely not a fan of the nickel base defense crap. Much more of a traditional 4-3 guy but to be honest probably like the 3-4 a bit more especially with an aggressive coordinator that knows how to properly run it like Belichik in NE. But I think this defense is going to have to continue to adapt either way especially since we have Klein back which is as good as you can get in midseason dumpster diving in terms of a guy who can still play and knows the system. He's a gritty throwback player and I've always liked his style of play. And he's inching closer to making some big plays for this unit again including the INT he dropped a few weeks ago. Knew Didn't Klein have 9 tackles against Detroit....and the game sealing 4th down stop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, nosejob said: Are you suggesting that they can go 5 wide with a back?....or 2? I'm not a math wizard, but....is that possible? I don't think White would have the time for all those progressions. Besides Milano and Edmunds can cover at least Conklin? Take away Wilson, Moore and Conklin, we should still be able to stop the run game and run blitz. IDK, 49 years of following football and this team, I guess I have my own opinion. Didn't Klein have 9 tackles against Detroit....and the game sealing 4th down stop? No, I’m not suggesting that—— In general, the jets have good playmakers. On any given play, they’ll have 5 good playmakers on the field. Doubling 2 of them would allow you to rush 4 and leave everyone else in single coverage with ZERO help. That’s not something McFrazier does. you saying that McFrazier would double Wilson AND moore…..and that just not going to happen. Watch and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 56 minutes ago, nosejob said: Are you suggesting that they can go 5 wide with a back?....or 2? I'm not a math wizard, but....is that possible? I don't think White would have the time for all those progressions. Besides Milano and Edmunds can cover at least Conklin? Take away Wilson, Moore and Conklin, we should still be able to stop the run game and run blitz. IDK, 49 years of following football and this team, I guess I have my own opinion. Didn't Klein have 9 tackles against Detroit....and the game sealing 4th down stop? He played large. And think that was the game he also dropped what should have been an easy INT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Deploy the 3 man rush ... that seems to confuse Mahommes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Big Turk said: Just say "Bah Fangul!!" to the next Italian person you meet. I'm sure that will go over well with them. … and lean forward with a kissee face, puckered with eyes closed. Benissimo, mio amico Italiano! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 47 minutes ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: Deploy the 3 man rush ... that seems to confuse Mahommes 3 man rush with an aggressive spy in Milano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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