DrDawkinstein Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, Shaw66 said: Wow. He was pretty much everyone's #1 QB coming out, although there certainly was a lot of room to argue. I'm not sure that was true. IIRC, Darnold was the #1 prospect, and Cleveland surprised the world by going with Baker. I think a lot of folks even had Rosen over Mayfield. But... Browns gonna Brown. 1 minute ago, WyoAZBillfan said: I vote Denver’s calls him. Stoke up the current dumpster fire there. He can’t be any worse than Russ is, even with the HC who couldn’t even find a play call (even if his auto warranty was about to expire). I would pay good money for the PPV stream to witness meetings in that QB room between Wilson and Mayfield. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Wow. He was pretty much everyone's #1 QB coming out, although there certainly was a lot of room to argue. My sense of the guy is that he isn't great in the locker room. I think he's too much of a me-first guy. And although he's shown that he can be a pretty good playmaker, he's not a big-time thrower. Obviously, he can't throw like Allen, but he can't throw like Mahomes, either, or like Burrows or Herbert. If you don't make any eye-popping throws, it's pretty hard to be big success at QB in the NFL. My take is that no one who's looking an answer at QB is likely to be interested. Can't see why Houston would bet on Baker instead of someone in the draft, and why would you want in camp as your rookie is working his way in. Colts shouldn't want to take a run an another retread. Rivers then Ryan then Baker? No. Not the Ravens. They have their #1, and Huntley fits better as a backup in their offense. The 49ers are a different situation. They've been looking seriously at a Super Bowl run this season, and now they need someone who can run their offense. They may or may not like Baker for the long run, but if they may very well want him for the short run. Look at it this way: If someone told you at the start of the season that after week thirteen, you'd be 8-4, leading your division and in excellent position to make the playoffs (93%), and they asked you what you'd like to do from a personnel point of view, you'd say, "whatever I possibly can do to make myself better, this year." That's why they went out and got McCaffrey. So, here they are, staring at the playoffs, and needing a QB. I think in that situation, you go get the very best QB you can find. Colts might let you trade for Matt Ryan, but, no thank you. Jets might give you Flacco or Zach Wilson. Broncos might give you Russell Wilson. Ryan Fitzpatrick might hang up his mike and come off the sideline. The choices just aren't very good. Baker, you actually could plug and play and have a shot at winning ball games down the stretch. By the time the playoffs start, he'd be integrated into the system. He has the mobility Garropolo lacked, he's got an arm for at least the intermediate passing game. He's a gamer. Trade deadline has long passed. Only options at this point are FA or waivers. I think you're stupid not to try to claim him if you're SF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 My guesses...HOU or the Rams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 SF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, mannc said: I think, like Sam Darnold, Baker is down to his last shot...he's close to being OOF... That says it all when the Panthers decides to keep Darnold over Baker!! Put this in Skip Bayless pipe and smoke it 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, CLTbills said: Trade deadline has long passed. Only options at this point are FA or waivers. I think you're stupid not to try to claim him if you're SF. I wasn't thinking about the trade deadline. Obviously, there are rules about this stuff, but if I'm Mayfield I'm letting the teams who might claim me off waivers that I'm really not interested in going there. I'd do everything I can to clear waivers or to make the 49ers with a waiver claim. Heck, not only is SF thinking he's best hope out there, he's thinking, "the future doesn't even matter, I could go start for a playoff team with McCaffrey (who I know) and Samuel and a superb defense. " Of course, McCaffrey may be telling Shanahan, "you don't want this guy." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I was wrong about Mayfield. He didn't end up as the worst QB in that draft. Kudos to Rosen for applying himself and beating out Mayfield for that honor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I will opine that he sits out the rest of the season. Waits to decide after the draft the best place to land. He might have to take a back up roll to resurrect his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I love this! First, the chump Rosen washs out, then the other chump -who was the #1 overall pick- gets booted from his 3rd team. Thankfully for him, department stores need stock room help this time of year. 🤣BWAHAHAHAHAHA! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Denver or the 49ers have to take a flyer on him right? The 49ers more so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, eball said: You can't. Even though he has flamed out you've got to kick the tires on Mayfield. You need a guy who has played in big games, even if it's just to manage the game behind that defense. Yep, SF has a highly talented and high performing D. Seems a crime to waste it. Had Jimmy G stayed healthy I saw them as going to the SB. Hard to say now what will happen to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I love this! First, the chump Rosen washs out, then the other chump -who was the #1 overall pick- gets booted from his 3rd team. Thankfully for him, department stores need stock room help this time of year. 🤣BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Love the Progressive commercials though Honestly, if I was one of those NFC teams headed to the playoffs I would ***** him up just so he doesn't make it to SF. Shanahan may catch lightning in a bottle with Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Good points about Houston. Having the #1 pick changes things, for sure. I guess they could bring him in now to get familiar, re-sign him to a cheap deal, and have him around so the rookie isnt forced into action too quickly. The rest of that team stinks so they have a lot of building to do before any rookie QB would stand a chance of surviving. Mayfield could be that bridge, and compete. But good points. If they think the Baker Mayfield is going to turn into a great mentor for the rookie, then they should do it. I think he would be a disaster in that role, and he may not want to do it in the first place. He's an UFA next year. If I was the Texans GM, I would pursue a Jacoby Brissett/Teddy Bridgewater type guy to mentor and play until the rookie is ready. Heck, I'd pay Cooper Rush $3M before I would have Baker on my team! As you can see, I'm not a big fan of the Baker Mayfield! LOL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I just don't think that you can bring a QB into a new system for week 14 and expect him to run the offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Baker is not terrible, IMO. I don't think he's great but SF is a lot like the CLE team where he was at his best: run the ball, make a few accurate throws, play defense. Purdy is going to get hurt standing in there and taking shots, IMO. Love the kid's courage, but there is a reason Brady drops into the fetal position the second pressure gets close. By December half the other teams QBs are out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 24 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: Denver or the 49ers have to take a flyer on him right? The 49ers more so. I don't think Denver needs more money tied up in terrible QBs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 IMO the Rams will claim him just to stop the 49ers from getting him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Given the horrible state of QB play in the NFL, Superfly will get another shot somewhere in the league. Panthers are just a complete mess, starting over with a complete teardown to the studs. Yeech. Must have been a coinflip to release either Mayfield or Darnold, since they both achieved abysmal levels of suckitude in NC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 LA Rams are hurting at QB too.. Considering how bad their season has gone, might as well sign him for cannon fodder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, wjag said: LA Rams are hurting at QB too.. Considering how bad their season has gone, might as well sign him for cannon fodder. and to stick it to the 49ers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Well, there should be a rush of teams for Baker Mayfield if he's what Skip Bayless says he is. The 49ers should be tripping over themselves to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) Here's something that might be interesting... Colts claim him and waive Matt Ryan, who ends up in SF reunited with Shanahan Edited December 5, 2022 by TheFunPolice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Baker's a good enough QB to be given another chance. The question is will it be first choice (as said, the 49ers or the Rams may roll the dice) or will he have to be content as a back up? Interestingly Wilks, Darnold and Walker have been going out of their way to say how good he has been in the locker room. 1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said: Here's something that might be interesting... Colts claim him and waive Matt Ryan, who ends up in SF reunited with Shanahan Can't see why the Colts would look to claim Baker at the moment. They're in a position where they're not bothered about winning, and will surely allow the new head coach to choose their next QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Baker's a good enough QB to be given another chance. The question is will it be first choice (as said, the 49ers or the Rams may roll the dice) or will he have to be content as a back up? Interestingly Wilks, Darnold and Walker have been going out of their way to say how good he has been in the locker room. Can't see why the Colts would look to claim Baker at the moment. They're in a position where they're not bothered about winning, and will surely allow the new head coach to choose their next QB? Just to let Ryan go, out of respect for him and knowing nobody else is going to claim him and he's gone in 5 games anyway. the idea would be to get Ryan to SF Edited December 5, 2022 by TheFunPolice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Carolina is a dumpster fire. Mayfield asked to be released to go to better organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Faker? A loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) Colts are a team being mentioned with Mayfield. IMO Mayfield in= Ryan out. Matt Ryan knows the Shanahan offense, is ancient, gone anyway in Indy, and almost 100% no way going to be claimed because there is no "future" there He's respected in Indy though by the coaches, and can still sling it on a better team. Maybe it's a way to give a good guy a shot to win somewhere else. Edited December 5, 2022 by TheFunPolice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: I was never a Mayfield fan or believer, but it sucks to see him get done so dirty by the Browns that if effectively ruins any shot at a pro career. I'd almost feel bad, if he didnt already have millions of dollars to fall back on. How exactly did the Browns do him dirty? He was mediocre & they upgraded. If anything it's all on Mayfield. When the Browns got Watson, a smart player would have realized that Watson was getting suspended & his best opportunity would be to win the starting job in an offense he already knows, perform well enough to boost his market value & be a good soldier playing at least half the season. Instead Baker immediately went into child mode & demanded to be traded. Now when he loses his starting job he asks for his release. Baker was & is the problem all along. Your post is similar to the ones who claim the Bills did EJ & JP dirty when in reality these guys didn't have the talent to start in the NFL. It seems that to some of you, it's always the team's fault, never the mediocre to bad QBs fault. Until a team has the franchise QB, their current QB is always eligible to be replaced. That's the reality of the NFL. Baker, EJ, JP and the rest weren't good enough. Nobody but themselves did these players wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gugny Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: I was never a Mayfield fan or believer, but it sucks to see him get done so dirty by the Browns that if effectively ruins any shot at a pro career. I'd almost feel bad, if he didnt already have millions of dollars to fall back on. I feel like they surrounded him with talent and he was too wrapped up with being a star to actually work at being a good QB. I very rarely wish failure on anyone, but seeing this little prick crash and burn makes me chuckle. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 SF makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: I was never a Mayfield fan or believer, but it sucks to see him get done so dirty by the Browns that if effectively ruins any shot at a pro career. I'd almost feel bad, if he didnt already have millions of dollars to fall back on. Don't you feel sweet redemption for your boy Geno? I always thought he had it in him. But man you were right on him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 If Geno can have a career resurgence, so can Baker, although it doesn't seem likely. Carolina is a disaster, so it's tough to judge. So is Cleveland, BTW. We forget that Freddie Kitchens was a HC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: I'm not sure that was true. IIRC, Darnold was the #1 prospect, and Cleveland surprised the world by going with Baker. I think a lot of folks even had Rosen over Mayfield. But... Browns gonna Brown. I would pay good money for the PPV stream to witness meetings in that QB room between Wilson and Mayfield. You may be onto something there, the possibilities!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Well, at least he has his commercials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: I was never a Mayfield fan or believer, but it sucks to see him get done so dirty by the Browns that if effectively ruins any shot at a pro career. I'd almost feel bad, if he didnt already have millions of dollars to fall back on. You cant blame the Browns on his demise, he has no one to blame but himself. I will say he did great commercials, beyond that I will be happy if I never see him play gain. He reminds me of Johnny Manzel without a drug problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: If Geno can have a career resurgence, so can Baker, although it doesn't seem likely. Carolina is a disaster, so it's tough to judge. So is Cleveland, BTW. We forget that Freddie Kitchens was a HC! Did we also forget that Freddie Kitchens was a HC because Baker Mayfield chased Hue Jackson out? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, boyst said: Don't you feel sweet redemption for your boy Geno? I always thought he had it in him. But man you were right on him Comeback player of the year if not the century. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Draconator said: and lose out to Mr. Irrelevant Baker would then be Mr. Really Irrelevant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Well, at least he has his commercials I wonder if he still lives in Browns stadium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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