Fins "impressive" 5 game win streak has come against opponents with a combined .282 win percentage

[What a Tuel]

1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

If they were barely squeaking by like the Bills have in recent weeks it would be easy to dismiss these wins and consider them a possibly fraud. But they are dominating teams on both sides of the ball including the same Browns we barely hung on to beat a few weeks ago.

 

Also Tua is ranked #1 in just about every major QB category right now and their defense is quietly improving as the season goes on despite their own rash of key injuries early on.

 

I don't see them losing the next 3 in a row but agree it's a far tougher stretch than what they've faced in recent weeks and will either validate them as an elite team/SB contender which I believe they are, or another WC type of team.

 

Dominating you say?

 

Steelers 10 - Dolphins 16

Lions 27 - Dolphins 31 (down 27-17 at the half)

Bears 32 - Dolphins 35 (Bears had 32 with 11:38 left in the 4th quarter so not garbage time)

Browns 17 - Dolphins 39

Texans 15 - Dolphins 30

 

So cool they dominated the Browns and Texans. 

 

Recency bias at its best.

 

Edited November 28, 2022 by What a Tuel

[WyoAZBillfan]

1 minute ago, What a Tuel said:

 

Dominating you say?

 

Steelers 10 - Dolphins 16

Lions 27 - Dolphins 31 (down 27-17 at the half)

Bears 32 - Dolphins 35 (Bears had 32 with 11:38 left in the 4th quarter so not garbage time)

Browns 17 - Dolphins 39

Texans 15 - Dolphins 30

 

So cool they dominated the Browns and Texans. 

 

Recency bias at its best.

 

That leaves out the W’s against Balt. and the Bills both of which they had to rely on magic or the smiling of football gods.. far cry from dominating as you point out. 
 

This next 3 games will show the real mettle of several teams.

[Punching Bag]

28 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

I still don't believe in Tua. There's a reason he was nicknamed Tua 'Turndabollova'

 

If Tua was good his college head coach would have told his friend Billi-cheat to draft him. 

Maybe the coach did but his idiot GM did not listen.

[mjt328]

I'm not boasting until the Bills take care of business over the next three weeks.

[PonyBoy]

1 hour ago, Saint Doug said:

Coupled with all the injuries we have, I’ll write to Roger Goodell and see if he can adjust their W-L downwards and ours upwards. 

Better yet, call the AP poll people who vote NCAAF rankings! 

[nucci]

all that matters is they are 8-3

[US Egg]

14 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

I'm not boasting until the Bills take care of business over the next three weeks.

This forum needs more boastful types.

[Putin]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

This is the run where we overtake the division again....just like last year with the Pats.

Amen Amen Amen 🙏🏻 to that !!!

[gonzo1105]

They have won the games on their schedule. I'm not going to hate on them because they beat bad teams. They won that's all that matters. Now these next games show what their made of on the road against 3 really good teams. 

[DapperCam]

I’m still not a Tua believer. Even this week a lot of his big throws down the field were underthrown with the WR making a great play. Try that in the wind, or against a team with a great secondary.

 

Not to mention he is fragile. I’ll eat crow if the Dolphins get more than 1 playoff win. I really don’t see it (I doubt they win 1).

[GoBills808]

You can only play who's on the schedule

 

Dolphins deserve a lot of credit for taking care of business

 

[RiotAct]

Just now, DapperCam said:

I’m still not a Tua believer. Even this week a lot of his big throws down the field were underthrown with the WR making a great play. Try that in the wind, or against a team with a great secondary.

 

Not to mention he is fragile. I’ll eat crow if the Dolphins get more than 1 playoff win. I really don’t see it (I doubt they win 1).

This morning a post came across my facebook feed of one hit on him against the Texans where he got bent over backwards like he was going for the world limbo record or something 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

SF will flatten them. 

Commence the sliddddddde back to reality. 

[FilthyBeast]

52 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

I’m still not a Tua believer. Even this week a lot of his big throws down the field were underthrown with the WR making a great play. Try that in the wind, or against a team with a great secondary.

 

Not to mention he is fragile. I’ll eat crow if the Dolphins get more than 1 playoff win. I really don’t see it (I doubt they win 1).

 

You don't post the type of numbers he is by accident, and still think a lot of people were foolish to write him off the last few years because he still posted decent numbers despite playing a coaching staff that wanted nothing to do with him and not near the level of talent he has now.

 

Add to the fact that Tua is on pace to surpass JA17's breakout 3rd season and he's as real as it gets unfortunately. The main difference is he is never going to be a guy that can do what JA17 and few others can do with his legs.

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, teef said:

i get it, but you certainly can't fault winning the games you're supposed to win on your schedule. this december will be a very interesting month for the afc east.

 

 

Bills fans complaining about an opponent having an easy schedule is quite laughable given the quality of opponents the Bills have had to face going back to 2017.

 

They rode some pretty favorable schedules to success.

 

This year the Bills have FINALLY faced some adverse scheduling.

 

 The media hasn't quite gotten around to talking about it just yet, but not only have the Bills played a lot of good teams......an ACTUAL first place schedule for once.......but barring anymore snowpocalypses they will finish the regular season playing on the road 10 times and at home only 7.  

 

I think the difficult schedule has taken a bit of a toll on the players psyche...........the career Bills on the team really aren't used to having to play 60 minutes of focused football every week.

[Ya Digg?]

3 hours ago, teef said:

i get it, but you certainly can't fault winning the games you're supposed to win on your schedule. this december will be a very interesting month for the afc east.

Apparently you’ve never been on this board after a Bills win-I have read far too many people faulting the Bills for a win 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

I swear the Bills could beat a team like, say, Pittsburgh by a ridiculous score of 38-3 and some people would still find more negatives than positives. Oh wait….

[Big Turk]

20 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Bills fans complaining about an opponent having an easy schedule is quite laughable given the quality of opponents the Bills have had to face going back to 2017.

 

They rode some pretty favorable schedules to success.

 

This year the Bills have FINALLY faced some adverse scheduling.

 

 The media hasn't quite gotten around to talking about it just yet, but not only have the Bills played a lot of good teams......an ACTUAL first place schedule for once.......but barring anymore snowpocalypses they will finish the regular season playing on the road 10 times and at home only 7.  

 

I think the difficult schedule has taken a bit of a toll on the players psyche...........the career Bills on the team really aren't used to having to play 60 minutes of focused football every week.

 

But yet they are 8-3 again and by all rights according to DVOA have underperformed and should be 10-1.

Edited November 28, 2022 by Big Turk

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

agreed. I am not apologizing if I am the dolphins. They are coming out and taking care of business against these lesser teams. 
 

Also, the Lions and Bears (with Fields) are better teams than their records reflect. 

 

Bears hung 30+ on that fish defense. It's AWFUL

 

22 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Bills fans complaining about an opponent having an easy schedule is quite laughable given the quality of opponents the Bills have had to face going back to 2017.

 

They rode some pretty favorable schedules to success.

 

This year the Bills have FINALLY faced some adverse scheduling.

 

 The media hasn't quite gotten around to talking about it just yet, but not only have the Bills played a lot of good teams......an ACTUAL first place schedule for once.......but barring anymore snowpocalypses they will finish the regular season playing on the road 10 times and at home only 7.  

 

I think the difficult schedule has taken a bit of a toll on the players psyche...........the career Bills on the team really aren't used to having to play 60 minutes of focused football every week.

I've only been pounding on the excess road games for weeks now. 8/12 to open the season.

 

 

[Low Positive]

Why are there posters on a Buffalo Bills message board scolding Bills fans for bashing the Fins? 

[Bubba Gump]

3 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said:

I still don't believe in Tua. There's a reason he was nicknamed Tua 'Turndabollova'

 

The Texans dropped three int's yesterday. Balls that were thrown right to them. I think it was AJ Feely who said that he thinks the only way Miami can win in the playoffs is if they get to play at home.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Honestly wouldn’t shock me if the beat the Niners… Jimmy G doesn’t impress me.

Lol k

[Buffalo03]

4 hours ago, Big Turk said:

I mean you can only play who is on your schedule, but I mean come on...has there been an easier 5 game stretch in the NFL this season??

 

Steelers, Lions, Bears, Browns, Texans.

 

Could see them losing the next 3 in a row with the 49ers, Chargers and Bills the next 3 up.

Don't tell this to Dolphins fans. They think those 5 teams are all Super Bowl caliber

[eball]

I didn’t read through this thread but I watched a bit of the Fish vs. the Texans yesterday.  Tua threw several — not one or two — balls that could easily have been picked.  He has an insane WR corps in Hill and Waddle that help to disguise his mediocre arm.

 

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, eball said:

I didn’t read through this thread but I watched a bit of the Fish vs. the Texans yesterday.  Tua threw several — not one or two — balls that could easily have been picked.  He has an insane WR corps in Hill and Waddle that help to disguise his mediocre arm.

 

 

He has done that pretty much in every game I have watched, which has been at least 5 of them this year.  He makes some nice plays but often the big plays are to wide open guys who have to wait for the ball to come down, or have to bail him out with a nice catch(for as short as he is, Hill is one of the best 50/50 ball players in the NFL). He still has way too many "meh" plays and throws for my liking.

[Process]

6 minutes ago, eball said:

I didn’t read through this thread but I watched a bit of the Fish vs. the Texans yesterday.  Tua threw several — not one or two — balls that could easily have been picked.  He has an insane WR corps in Hill and Waddle that help to disguise his mediocre arm.

 

This is the story every single game I've watched. He's average at best. Insanely overrated player that will get exposed. But let them have their fun.

[BillzFreak]

1 minute ago, Process said:

This is the story every single game I've watched. He's average at best. Insanely overrated player that will get exposed. But let them have their fun.

But even with him being average at best, the speed of that offense presents a problem. And McDaniel has designed an offense to get the ball out quick and go for yards after catch. All Tua has to do is what is asked within the offensive scheme. Having elite speed on the outside does make even the average quarterback look great. Are they unstoppable with Tua not at all, but they still are a problem with that talent on the outside. 

[Process]

Just now, BillzFreak said:

But even with him being average at best, the speed of that offense presents a problem. And McDaniel has designed an offense to get the ball out quick and go for yards after catch. All Tua has to do is what is asked within the offensive scheme. Having elite speed on the outside does make even the average quarterback look great. Are they unstoppable with Tua not at all, but they still are a problem with that talent on the outside. 

No doubt. They are stacked on offense and we'll coached. But they will always be a long shot to win the Superbowl with Tua. 

 

The difference between them and the 49ers, who also have a very average QB, is that the 49ers are stacked on offense and also have arguably the best defense in the league. Dolphins D stinks. 

[Scott7975]

4 hours ago, Haslett_Stomp said:

I'm looking forward to watching Tua throw at Rich/Highmark stadium in December.

 

It will be the one home game we get the last warm weather fluke 60 degree day with light breeze day of the year.

4 hours ago, RobbRiddick said:

Yeah. I'll admit the Dolphins do look dangerous. I hate myself for saying it but I'm very impressed with Tua. I really thought he'd Conti new to suck but that coach has done a great job of playing to their strengths. I hope the naysayers are right and they come crashing down to earth against better teams

 

Tua is doing an excellent job but he has probably the easiest QB job in the league.  I watched a highlight of a bunch of his throws from Texans game.  Over the middle wide open, over the middle wide open, over the middle wide open, between the numbers wide open, over the middle wide open. 5 yard pass 15 yard after the catch.  The guy couldnt have it any easier unless they let him walked up an hand the ball to the player.

[GunnerBill]

40 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Honestly wouldn’t shock me if the beat the Niners… Jimmy G doesn’t impress me.

 

Nor me. But their weapons and defense do.

[Mikie2times]

They're good. I wish that wasn't the case, but they have the greatest play making WR in the game, opposite him, a WR that is turning into a Top 10 player, if not already, at his position. Then a QB who plays within the system and does so effectively. With a coach who has the right system for his players. Then bring in a defense that is not a liability and can even make some plays. It doesn't really matter who they played the last 5. They're good, when healthy, we are better. Hopefully we can get healthy soon.  

[Scott7975]

Funny that some of the same people that dog on the Bills all week every week are in this thread all like "so wha? they be 8-3"

[78thealltimegreat]

5 hours ago, Big Turk said:

I mean you can only play who is on your schedule, but I mean come on...has there been an easier 5 game stretch in the NFL this season??

 

Steelers, Lions, Bears, Browns, Texans.

 

Could see them losing the next 3 in a row with the 49ers, Chargers and Bills the next 3 up.

Do they still play Fins by Jimmy Buffet when they score? 

[BADOLBILZ]

26 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

But yet they are 8-3 again and by all rights according to DVOA have underperformed and should be 10-1.

 

 

Well they were the SB favorite for a reason.    Arguably the best QB and deepest roster in the league.

 

The people who complain that expecting more than 8-3 (.727 win %) thru 11 was unfair........they are apparently unaware that you need to expect more to get home field.

 

Last year was literally the first time since 2002 that an AFC team earned the #1 seed with a sub .750 win %.    

 

And it's not the expanded schedule.   The NFC #1 and #2 both had 13 wins last year and the #1 will probably have 14-15 this time around.

 

[Augie]

5 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

This is the run where we overtake the division again....just like last year with the Pats.

🙏 

[FilthyBeast]

1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

Honestly wouldn’t shock me if the beat the Niners… Jimmy G doesn’t impress me.

 

And when this does happen fans here will just say it's because of that reason or because McDaniel had an advantage because he knows their players, schemes, etc coming to Miami from SF.

 

I honestly think the Dolphins are going to win this game quite easily just like the Chiefs did there earlier this year when they poured on the offense and couldn't be stopped. And anytime you force the 49ers to play from behind they simply aren't built for that.

[John from Riverside]

Snow, baby snow bring on the porpoises

[FilthyBeast]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

A lot of people/media are high on the niners… They are stacked defensively and at the skills position but I just can’t get behind Jimmy G…. Not sure about easily, I expect a good game, but I am leaning towards Miami winning. 

 

They are a decent team with some serious talent, but one that is built to play with a lead or grind it out late which has been their MO under Shanahan especially during their playoff runs the last few years.

 

The problem they are going to continue to have is when other good teams jump on them they simply aren't built to play from behind and I think that's what the Dolphins will try to replicate in terms of what the Chiefs did earlier this year and see no reason why they won't be successful given how well that offense is playing of late.

[FLFan]

There is just no slowing down the Fins fan express around here, or the fair-weather Bills fan parade that this board has become.  Both the Fins and the Jets are about to come crashing back to earth, and all the breathless teenage girls around here gushing over their magnificense and bemoaning the Bills lack of winning in apparently the right way recently will be jumping back on the bandwagon soon enough.  

[John from Riverside]

8 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

A lot of people/media are high on the niners… They are stacked defensively and at the skills position but I just can’t get behind Jimmy G…. Not sure about easily, I expect a good game, but I am leaning towards Miami winning. 

That Niners defense is going to destroy them

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

38 minutes ago, KzooMike said:

They're good. I wish that wasn't the case, but they have the greatest play making WR in the game, opposite him, a WR that is turning into a Top 10 player, if not already, at his position. Then a QB who plays within the system and does so effectively. With a coach who has the right system for his players. Then bring in a defense that is not a liability and can even make some plays. It doesn't really matter who they played the last 5. They're good, when healthy, we are better. Hopefully we can get healthy soon.  

Their defense is TRAAAAASH