Billz4ever Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Flucod said: Run d went to crap when Rosseau was injured. Jets saw that and took advantage. No, it's because Frazier is committed to the Nickel Defense, which is designed to stop the pass, not the run. Frazier thinks we are good enough to be able to stop the pass and the run with the Nickel. GB demonstrated last week, our Nickel cannot stop the run. The Jets were watching and followed that game plan. Frazier is so stubborn, he won't change it up even though it's clear the other team is intent on running the ball down our throat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 14 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: I love Singletary but even I know he's not a three down RB. No, but he can catch the ball and that's why I also listed Cook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: Josh has to get his head out of his arse. People blame the running game and oline in the running game, but it starts and ends with Josh. He's making headscratching throws right now. I see people saying he's playing like 2018 Allen but that's not the case. 2018 Allen want throwing ints straight to defenders. I don't know WTF is going on but Dorsey better start coaching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: A BIG Game next week for Buffalo facing Minnesota. They are a very good team and a loss would bring Buffalo back to the pack in the East. If Josh plays anything like he did today, next week, we'll get killed. Still like the overall look of the land, b/c I am assuming Josh will return to much better form soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Once again in the nfl against one of the 5 best defenses in football your going to have these types of games happen. The game was tied all you needed was one stop to get the ball at midfield that’s it. Yes, the run defense was hideous. But it did not help that we were down four key players in Hyde, Milano, Poyer and White. And they were shattered by the end of the game because the offense didn't do enough to stay on it. Edited November 6, 2022 by UKBillFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Just now, Beck Water said: I have not made an exhaustive and systematic study. But from what I've seen, Josh is part of the problem here. Are these catches that a top WR in the NFL makes? Yes. But from some of what I've seen, Josh is at many times, forcing difficult throws that require difficult catches, when he has shorter options that are more open underneath. If defenses were forced to pay more attention to the underneath stuff, Davis would be more open. I don't know whether Josh simply doesn't trust McKenzie and Morris and Knox, or whether he doesn't see them, but it's an issue that needs to be addressed. Rbs are getting half his targets because no one besides Diggs can get open. Josh is taking the underneath but our WRs (outside of Diggs) are playing terrible football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Just now, RyanC883 said: yeah you can. If the rut is that long. Superster? What has JA won that makes him a superster? Wtf is a Superster. And/or why would you auto correct to that haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) Not worried, they are simply too talented. Just irritated they seem to not be able to play their best as the season wears on unless they have someone breathing down their neck or are playing from behind. Von has helped but maybe not enough. Less joking around during the week and more executing. Edited November 6, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Jamone said: LAnd shart should be investigated for gambling. ******* disgraceful. Dude is terrible. Phantom holding on Diggs catch. No flags all game against the jets. Then no dpi or holding on the Davis throw. 2 arm grabs, no turning his head and putting his arms in the air. Honestly jOsh Stunk up big time. His mvp season is done. But come the **** on. The league will allow us to win whatever games they see fit. It's been that way since the dawn of time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said: Is there video of Davis dropping the last throw? I turned the tv off immediately in obvious frustration. No luck on YouTube Yes. He definitely could’ve made a better play on the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Just now, Breakout Squad said: Wtf is a Superster. And/or why would you auto correct to that haha. no clue why it autocorrected to that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsforumsucks Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Billz4ever said: No, it's because Frazier is committed to the Nickel Defense, which is designed to stop the pass, not the run. Frazier thinks we are good enough to be able to stop the pass and the run with the Nickel. GB demonstrated last week, our Nickel cannot stop the run. The Jets were watching and followed that game plan. Frazier is so stubborn, he won't change it up even though it's clear the other team is intent on running the ball down our throat. Well today when Rosseau went out they started to running the ball, previously they were held in check, but whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Still confident in the 1 seed and that they figure it out. The wildly obnoxious fact that this team/staff seems to have mid-season lulls makes me less worried. Beyond sick of the handful of games per year where our defense is a joke given the obsessive investment into it. I don’t really care about the injuries. The DL was healthy. So was Edmunds and Taron Johnson. Figure it out. It’s a Zach ****ing Wilson led offense. Bills fans, en masse, complained about the teams approach to WR. Mouthpieces for the org assured us that we have “pass catchers” and other fairy dust nonsense. Nope. We all knew what we knew … Bills didn’t do enough at WR. And here we are. Hoping for OBJ or that Gabe Davis suddenly learns how to play reliable WR2 football. Bills FO is fantastic. We’re 6-2 and in control of our destiny for the 1 seed. That said… this team looks soft, once again, in the middle of the season. Correcting the course against a good Vikings team would calm a lot of us down … a loss, and McD justifiably should start feeling a slight warmth under his seat. Just slight… No one should be there yet, but he’d be turning the stove on for alot of folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 I found it dubious they didn't show the critical holding penalty on the final drive. Then Sauce was holding and grabbing Davis all the way down the field on the final play. Before the game I was telling people Sauce is the new Stephon Gilmore, looks better than he is because he gets away with a ton of illegal contact. It's supposed to be an emphasized penalty this year but he keeps getting away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Just now, UKBillFan said: Yes, the run defense was hideous. But it did not ehelp that we were down four key players in Hyde, Milano, Poyer and White. And they were shattered by the end of the game because the offense didn't do enough to stay on it. I thought run D was decent until the 4th. Then it kinda fell apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: He had a sack and forced fumble. He did just fine Von did what we expect from Von. It was the rest of the line that didn't do much. Not very much pressure to speak of and couldn't stop the run, but the run part I blame on Frazier for playing Nickel all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 They’ll be fine as long as 17 stops giving the ball away. I believe he’ll get it together. December is huge for them. 3-4 division games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, ngbills said: Hamlin and Johnson suck. Way too much confidence they were enough with Hyde going out. I think Hamlin is pretty good, actually. One of the better performances of the game. Jaquan Johnson is too small and light I think. He gets to the right spot then too often gets trucked. And who was the guy who kept flying into the backfield to make tackles and whiffing? Pretty sure that was Johnson, trying to use velocity to overcome strength at the point of attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, UKBillFan said: Yes, the run defense was hideous. But it did not ehelp that we were down four key players in Hyde, Milano, Poyer and White. And they were shattered by the end of the game because the offense didn't do enough to stay on it. can’t stop the run or sustain drives with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Jets were playing the pass and daring us to run. We couldn't run consistently. When they were open, Josh was missing wide open receivers, which he normally doesn't. Two more bad INTs. That was the difference today on the offensive side of the ball. Not sure if I agree as we only ran it 9x outside of Allen taking off. Even if it is only averaging 3 yards a pop you keep at it against a team with that kind of pass rush. You have to. If they ran more 12 with Morris as the extra TE Allen has a bit more time in the pocket to settle down. Dorsey did bring in an extra lineman and run it, but it usually served to signal the Jets to play run rather than the run coming out of your an alignment you are passing out of too. Just feel the game plan played into the strength of a very good Jets "D". The picks, sacks, and errant throws seem to back that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 We conceded 17 points without four key players. That isn't awful. This offense should be capable of scoring 18. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: yeah you can. If the rut is that long. Superster? What has JA won that makes him a superster? Why are you being a 🤡? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Breakout Squad said: Is there video of Davis dropping the last throw? I turned the tv off immediately in obvious frustration. No luck on YouTube imo there were hands on Davis' jersey with body on body contact before the ball arrived but it was deemed a clean play incompleted pass. I thought a flag could have been thrown but it reads on the board that I am in the minority there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Just now, Breakout Squad said: I thought run D was decent until the 4th. Then it kinda fell apart Rousseau is a good run defender and we missed him when he went out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Flucod said: Well today when Rosseau went out they started to running the ball, previously they were held in check, but whatever. Frazier needs to adapt when Greg went out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Just now, Big Turk said: Not worried, they are simply too talented. Just irritated they seem to not be able to play their best unless they have someone breathing down their neck or are playing from behind. Von has helped but maybe not enough. Less joking around during the week and more executing. And when we needed any kind of pass rush, AJ & Groot were on the sidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: yeah you can. If the rut is that long. Superster? What has JA won that makes him a superster? No, you can’t. It would grenade the locker room. And he’s a superstar because he’s a top-3 QB in the league. Period. this place is completely insane after one loss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Milano would have made a big difference out there. I don't know that Josh even saw that guy on the first pick. Maybe the green pants blended with the turf....he just didn't see the guy. That was pass interference. Should have been lining up a tying field goal and headed to OT. Even if they didn't call holding on Diggs' catch, they probably would've overturned the catch. His toes were in went he went up, but they were out when he came down. I'd rather play poorly and lose that play great and lose. Today we didn't have it. Don't give up on this team. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Just now, Beck Water said: Rousseau is a good run defender and we missed him when he went out. Absolutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsforumsucks Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Just now, RyanC883 said: Frazier needs to adapt when Greg went out. No doubt, I don’t think we had the players to adapt at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, UKBillFan said: We conceded 17 20 points without four key players. That isn't awful. This offense should be capable of scoring 18 21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, UKBillFan said: We conceded 17 points without four key players. That isn't awful. This offense should be capable of scoring 18. well, the way we conceded it was awful. Totally agree the offense was a bigger issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: Look at whatever the Commies did today? Cook had 47 yards on 17 carries. Easier said than done when our rush defense has given up 400 yards in 2 games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 My thoughts is the bills are still a SB contender, but now have a battle for the division lead with Miami and/or may have to go to arrowhead in the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, Motor26 said: He was missing guys he usually hits all day long and both INTs I’m pretty sure if the WR or TE ran a different route than he thought because they were too bad for it to be any other reason. I believe it’s just an off day and he’ll get back on track next week. First one I think he maybe didn’t see the guy, because a big DLineman was directly in front of him. 2nd pick was 100% him and Gabe Davis not being on the same page. Gabe ran out and Allen threw it inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said: Is there video of Davis dropping the last throw? I turned the tv off immediately in obvious frustration. No luck on YouTube It would’ve been a tough catch but he should’ve made it. Sauce defended it pretty well. It wasn’t like it was a completely wide open drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeLLy1278 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 To everyone who is thinking about walking off the ledge. This season is still salvageable. The Bills still have good talent and should be right there in the end. We expect a playoff berth and more this season. If they do not win playoff games this season then they underperformed. It would not surprise me if they get to the Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Detroit has the worst D in football. They held the Packers to 106 yds on the ground today (and picked Rodgers 3 times). The Bills issues vs the run the last two games are a major concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Flucod said: Well today when Rosseau went out they started to running the ball, previously they were held in check, but whatever. The Jets were running a lot between the tackles, so it's not like Rousseau was involved in a lot of those plays and when they did run outside, it was away from Rousseau. Rousseau recorded 1 tackle today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 No run game, no secondary receiver help, can’t stop the run, QB took 5 sacks with no time to throw. This seems like the exact same team as last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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