If Beane doesn't do anything before the trade deadline it's an epic fail

[DrW]

2 minutes ago, TH3 said:

Offense AND Defense gonna be a problem!

 

I am relieved. At least the Special Teams are hunky-dory.

Edited October 31, 2022 by DrW

[thenorthremembers]

Gotta have a dance partner.  Obviously he is trying to bring good players here.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

The fail occurred last season when he should have traded for Von Miller.  Bills probably win the SuperBowl last season if he did.  Many on here were advocating for it back then.

This year no moves are needed.  He set the roster up well enough in the off-season.  The roster is loaded and they just went 6-1 and should really be 7-0.  They have the best QB in the NFL, a top 3 WR, and a very good defense.  

What impact player are you going to get with $1.6M in in cap space?  

 

2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I agree. An above avg safety to supplement losing Micah and Poyers health. Plus getting OBJ as a bonified #2 with Gabe being inconsistent would do wonders for this team.  Singletary & Cook can hold down the RB room.

I'm sorry who is the bonified #2 WR you are getting in addition to OBJ?  Because it has been a long time since OBJ was a good WR and he is coming off another ACL tear.  OBJ is click bait. He will be lucky to make any roster this season let alone make an impact.  

[jaybills]

It's not like Beane hasn't tried. Tried for CMC and Kamara that we know of. 

[AuntieEm]

2 hours ago, The Red King said:

 

Reread my reply.  You can't just tell a team you want player "x", and on your terms.  Other teams know Buffalo is close and either don't want to trade a critical piece to us, or they want to fleese us.  Also, there are other teams willing to overspend to outbid us.

   

    Every team is trying to improve in order to beat the Bills so few teams are willing to help the Bills with a trade.

 

 

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

I agree. I refuse to believe we can’t at least get depth for the stretch run for a pick (5th-7th) that might not even make the team next year. 

Christian Benford where did we get him again

1 hour ago, Bills2022 said:

 

Unless they don't win the Lombardi.  Then he is the failed architect of a team that can't win the big games. 

 

What makes you so sure that bringing some wood now would ensure that win

[Nextmanup]

2 hours ago, Bills2022 said:

The Bills should only make a move if it makes sense, BUT we have to admit the gap between the Bills and everyone else no longer exists.  The Bills are no better than the Eagles or Chiefs, and it is fair to say teams like the Ravens and Niners have closed the gap.  Our run defense looks shaky and we are having problems putting multiple good halves together. Both could be a real problem in the playoffs.  

Nothing here that isn't true, more or less, and yet everyone attacks you b/c that's how this place is.

This forum is becoming unreadable.  The Bills have now apparently enjoyed TOO MUCH success for anyone to really want to discuss anything.

 

Any hint that maybe we aren't, by far, the best team in the league is scoffed at as being a "troll" and related idiotic bull####.

 

 

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Christian Benford where did we get him again

getting a contributor in the 6th is extremely rare and they have 2 5ths next year. If they can add a for sure NFL player for the stretch run they’d be fools not to 

[John from Riverside]

Just now, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

getting a contributor in the 6th is extremely rare and they have 2 5ths next year. If they can add a for sure NFL player for the stretch run they’d be fools not to 

I like how you refer to him as a contributor

 

He has literally been a starter at Corner for the team in the best defense in the NFL

2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Nothing here that isn't true, more or less, and yet everyone attacks you b/c that's how this place is.

This forum is becoming unreadable.  The Bills have now apparently enjoyed TOO MUCH success for anyone to really want to discuss anything.

 

Any hint that maybe we aren't, by far, the best team in the league is scoffed at as being a "troll" and related idiotic bull####.

 

 

You are commending someone for saying that there is no gap between the bills and the rest of the NFL that lumps you in as being a dip ***** right along with him

[GreggTX]

No it isn't. Fans are often unrealistic. He's not going to sell out the future to suit your fantasies.

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I like how you refer to him as a contributor

 

He has literally been a starter at Corner for the team in the best defense in the NFL

You are commending someone for saying that there is no gap between the bills and the rest of the NFL that lumps you in as being a dip ***** right along with him

Never referred to him as anything 

[NewEra]

25 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

The fail occurred last season when he should have traded for Von Miller.  Bills probably win the SuperBowl last season if he did.  Many on here were advocating for it back then.

This year no moves are needed.  He set the roster up well enough in the off-season.  The roster is loaded and they just went 6-1 and should really be 7-0.  They have the best QB in the NFL, a top 3 WR, and a very good defense.  

What impact player are you going to get with $1.6M in in cap space?  

 

I'm sorry who is the bonified #2 WR you are getting in addition to OBJ?  Because it has been a long time since OBJ was a good WR and he is coming off another ACL tear.  OBJ is click bait. He will be lucky to make any roster this season let alone make an impact.  

He hasn’t been elite in a long time.  Obj was a very good wr in the nfccg.  Without him playing in that game, I think the niners would’ve won the NFC.  He was a difference maker.  As he was in the super bowl until he got hurt .

[Alphadawg7]

36 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Nothing here that isn't true, more or less, and yet everyone attacks you b/c that's how this place is.

This forum is becoming unreadable.  The Bills have now apparently enjoyed TOO MUCH success for anyone to really want to discuss anything.

 

Any hint that maybe we aren't, by far, the best team in the league is scoffed at as being a "troll" and related idiotic bull####.

 

 

 

Its actually quite the opposite.  Lets run down the norm after wins around here...

1. Panic if we didn't BOTH dominate passing AND running.  We have weekly we are doomed threads if you we dont sell out our future for a RB.  And I am not even opposed to say trading for someone like Hunt.  But this implication that if we don't we are screwed is a weekly groundhog day repeating theme.  Even in blow out wins.
2. OVER exaggerate any one thing that didn't go absolutely perfect as if elite teams play perfect on every snap of the ball for every second of 60 minutes. 
3. Demand we fire McD, Frazier and Beane during the first half when we aren't blowing them out yet.  I have seen in multiple games, all games we won too, THIS YEAR where several people were calling for McD, Frazier and even Beane to be fired in the first half of wins.
4. Endless threads to complain about players like Devin and Edmunds after they had GOOD games.  
5. Now you can add Davis to that list as now people think he isn't good enough despite having a record setting YPC season so far and having missed time.  But suddenly he isn't good enough because he isn't second on the team in catches.  

Its honestly exhausting even recapping that, and I can keep going with the over the top panic and nonsense around here.  We are an impossible amount of injuries and extreme heat from being undefeated, we are the consensus SB favorite, we are considered by far the best roster in the NFL, we are considered the best defense and offense when healthy by just about everyone, and we have the consensus MVP right now.  Yet people are on this board talking like we are a fringe playoff team or in some form of desperation.  

 

And if you don't want to revel in people's extreme hot takes, they just double down.  There are people on this board who seem to think we must have a Madden like roster where you have an NFL best player at every position.  There are people on this board who seem to think we MUST play perfect every play of every game or peoples jobs are on the line.  

 

Its utterly unbearable around here after a loss, and honestly getting hard to be around here even after wins now.  

 

EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL HAS PLACES ON THE ROSTER THEY CAN UPGRADE.  Every one of them.  We don't need over exaggerated screams and whining to make big moves every week.  Of course there are places we can upgrade, and Beane has PROVEN countless times he will explore those opportunities for what is good for the Bills.  

Edited October 31, 2022 by Alphadawg7

[HOUSE]

Tick. Tick...Tick.....

[WideNine]

That time of year again.

 

Trade deadline threads are pretty normal around here as well as the sky is falling if we don't get player X.

 

Beane has done a great job finding quality starters and depth players, hard to predict the injury bug when drawing up rosters.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[That's No Moon]

Justin Simmons is the guy we need to be calling about

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Its actually quite the opposite.  Lets run down the norm after wins around here...

1. Panic if we didn't BOTH dominate passing AND running.  We weekly we are doomed threads if you we dont sell out our future for a RB.  And I am not even opposed to say trading for someone like Hunt.  But this implication that if we don't we are screwed is a weekly groundhog day repeating theme.  Even in blow out wins.
2. OVER exaggerate any one thing that didn't go absolutely perfect as if elite teams play perfect on every snap of the ball for every second of 60 minutes. 
3. Demand we fire McD during the first half when we aren't blowing them out yet.  I have seen in multiple games, all games we won too, THIS YEAR where several people were calling for McD, Frazier and even Beane to be fired in the shout box.
4. Endless threads to complain about players like Devin and Edmunds after they had GOOD games.  
5. Now you can add Davis to that list as now people think he isn't good enough despite having a record setting YPC season so far and having missed time.  But suddenly he isn't good enough because he isn't second on the team in catches.  

Its honestly exhausting even recapping that, and I can keep going with the over the top panic and nonsense around here.  We are an impossible amount of injuries and extreme heat from being undefeated, we are the consensus SB favorite, we are considered by far the best roster in the NFL, we are considered the best defense and offense when healthy by just about everyone.  Yet people are on this board talking like we are a fringe playoff team or in some form of desperation.  

 

And if you don't want to revel in people's extreme hot takes, they just double down.  There are people on this board who seem to think we must have a Madden like roster where you have an NFL best player at every position.  There are people on this board who seem to think we MUST play perfect every play of every game or peoples jobs are on the line.  

 

Its UTTERLY UNBEARABLE around here after a loss, and honestly getting hard to be around here even after wins now.  

 

EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL HAS PLACES ON THE ROSTER THEY CAN UPGRADE.  Every one of them.  We don't need over exaggerated screams and whining to make big moves every week.  Of course there are places we can upgrade, and Beane has PROVEN countless times he will explore those opportunities for what is good for the Bills.  We don't need foolish threads screaming we must make moves or we are doomed.  

Unbearable lol. Who’s overreacting now? 
 

In the other major sports it’s very common for  all of the contenders to give up picks and prospects at the deadline for rentals to help them. Trading wasn’t very common in the NFL until fairly recently. I think it will be the norm soon if it isn’t already due to the AFC arms race. 

[njbuff]

[Alphadawg7]

6 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

Unbearable lol. Who’s overreacting now? 
 

In the other major sports it’s very common for  all of the contenders to give up picks and prospects at the deadline for rentals to help them. Trading wasn’t very common in the NFL until fairly recently. I think it will be the norm soon if it isn’t already due to the AFC arms race. 

 

LOL...I didnt say its unbearable around here now, I said after a loss, and that its getting bad even after wins now.  Look at how many panic over reaction threads are on the board right now.  Look at the comments in the shoutbox yesterday and today.  And its only Monday.  You would think we lost by 2 scores, not won by 2 scores.

 

And Nextmanup is the one who used the term "unbearable", so I was countering that point specifically

Edited October 31, 2022 by Alphadawg7

[Floydboy12]

At this point I’d like to add some O line depth. And there a couple of players on other teams practice squads I wouldn’t mind poaching. 

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

6 minutes ago, WideNine said:

That time of year again.

 

Trade deadline threads are pretty normal around here as well as the sky is falling if we don't get player X.

 

Beane has done a great job finding quality starters and depth players, hard to predict the injury bug when drawing up rosters.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, but the problem with the injury bug is it’s not a real thing.

 

In reality if you have one starting safety out for the year and the other dealing with multiple injuries, then your backup safeties are at increased risk to be injured due to increased playing time.
 

They’re just as likely to get injured as the first two safeties contrary to what many fans around here seem to believe. If that happens you’re stuck with practice squad-level players on the back end in the playoffs. 

 

If you had the knowledge of the starters’ injuries before the deadline and did nothing to bolster depth then it is by definition an epic fail 

[Niagara Dude]

3 hours ago, Adamb412 said:

With KC and Baltimore making moves, Beane needs to do something. There's glaring holes at safety depth and OL depth and even WR in some respect. I'm not hard up on RB like the media is, but if he doesn't at least get a safety with poyer being held together by Elmer's glue and gum and I love him but the dude getting hurt every week

Previous two years I did not agree on Beane doing nothing at the deadline and we lost both years to KC.  This season I again plead to either add a speed/power RB or perhaps depth at the safety position.  This is not even about if I like Singletary,  you need quality depth and Moss should not even be on this team. Cook is not ready and needs to get stronger before you can really count on him as a runner between the tackles.  I third or 4th rounder gets it done. Same people saying were fine were saying the same thing two previous years and then cried after losing to KC.  

[Pete]

I would bet my left nut that Beane has been inquiring about many players.  I would be shocked if we didn't make a move by 4:00 tomorrow

[NoSaint]

13 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

Previous two years I did not agree on Beane doing nothing at the deadline and we lost both years to KC.  This season I again plead to either add a speed/power RB or perhaps depth at the safety position.  This is not even about if I like Singletary,  you need quality depth and Moss should not even be on this team. Cook is not ready and needs to get stronger before you can really count on him as a runner between the tackles.  I third or 4th rounder gets it done. Same people saying were fine were saying the same thing two previous years and then cried after losing to KC.  

I’d be totally fine with hunt - especially liking that he gets to ease into the rotation. Good out of the shotgun, and good in the passing game. Can be 3rd on the depth chart for a couple weeks and see where it takes us long term. Singletary rolls an ankle in a month and we aren’t debating moss vs rushing him back at 75%.

 

even as a 3 month rental- if we let him walk we get a comp pick a year later. Literally worst case is he’s underutilized and costs us trading a 2023 4th for a 2024 4th to have the insurance. 

Edited October 31, 2022 by NoSaint

[Pete]

RB IMO is one Beane's trade targets.  At the very least, we could use a short yardage back.

 

As much as many discount RBs,  Look what Saquan does for the GMen.  The Jets whole offense was Bryce.  San Fran is instant NFC contender with Christian.  Tennessee goes as DHenry goes

 

I love Motor, and I think Cook will be a great player for us.  But last night our running game was great, until we needed to be able to run.

 

A RB won't cost a 1st most likely.  Teams at this point of season know whether to sell now, and build for next year- or make a playoff run.  IMO many teams are sellers.

Now is the time to fine tune our roster for our Super Bowl quest

RB, S, OL - 3 positions Beane is considering adding IMO

[WideNine]

3 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

Yes, but the problem with the injury bug is it’s not a real thing.

 

In reality if you have one starting safety out for the year and the other dealing with multiple injuries, then your backup safeties are at increased risk to be injured due to increased playing time.
 

They’re just as likely to get injured as the first two safeties contrary to what many fans around here seem to believe. If that happens you’re stuck with practice squad-level players on the back end in the playoffs. 

 

If you had the knowledge of the starters’ injuries before the deadline and did nothing to bolster depth then it is by definition an epic fail 

 

Assuming there are replacements out there that are better than those you have in house, AND that they are worth the asking price.

 

Beane has built a pretty decent team, knee-jerk reactions are not part of that equation.

 

I can't associate the job he has done building this roster and this organization that franchises across the NFL now hold up as the gold standard, with the words "epic fail" because why?

 

Because he does not pull the trigger on a trade he does not like?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[4merper4mer]

3 minutes ago, Pete said:

RB IMO is one Beane's trade targets.  At the very least, we could use a short yardage back.

 

As much as many discount RBs,  Look what Saquan does for the GMen.  The Jets whole offense was Bryce.  San Fran is instant NFC contender with Christian.  Tennessee goes as DHenry goes

 

I love Motor, and I think Cook will be a great player for us.  But last night our running game was great, until we needed to be able to run.

 

A RB won't cost a 1st most likely.  Teams at this point of season know whether to sell now, and build for next year- or make a playoff run.  IMO many teams are sellers.

Now is the time to fine tune our roster for our Super Bowl quest

RB, S, OL - 3 positions Beane is considering adding IMO

When exactly did we need to be able to run last night?

[SoTier]

4 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

Previous two years I did not agree on Beane doing nothing at the deadline and we lost both years to KC.  This season I again plead to either add a speed/power RB or perhaps depth at the safety position.  This is not even about if I like Singletary,  you need quality depth and Moss should not even be on this team. Cook is not ready and needs to get stronger before you can really count on him as a runner between the tackles.  I third or 4th rounder gets it done. Same people saying were fine were saying the same thing two previous years and then cried after losing to KC.  

 

You're assuming that a RB and/or safety better than we currently have are available at a reasonable price.   There may not be. 

[Pete]

A very good RB for Moss and draft pick(either round 3, 4, or 5- depending on whom)

That clears a roster spot for us, and fills trade partners backfield

No brainer to me to make that deal

1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said:

When exactly did we need to be able to run last night?

we had 3 points in the second half.  Josh was very off in second half, and we let Green Bay back in the game.  Green Bay dominated time of possession.

A good running game would of iced the game for us in the third quarter

[Pete]

A good running game, Josh does not need to be Superman every game.  Not to mention, a good running game, makes for a much better passing game. 

[4merper4mer]

29 minutes ago, Pete said:

A very good RB for Moss and draft pick(either round 3, 4, or 5- depending on whom)

That clears a roster spot for us, and fills trade partners backfield

No brainer to me to make that deal

we had 3 points in the second half.  Josh was very off in second half, and we let Green Bay back in the game.  Green Bay dominated time of possession.

A good running game would of iced the game for us in the third quarter

Green Bay was back in the game?

[BuffaninSarasota]

Moss and a 7th in 2028 in exchange for  Chubb …. If not, epic fail 

[TBBills Fan]

Moss and a 5th.  LFG beane

[ArtVandalay]

5 hours ago, Adamb412 said:

With KC and Baltimore making moves, Beane needs to do something. There's glaring holes at safety depth and OL depth and even WR in some respect. I'm not hard up on RB like the media is, but if he doesn't at least get a safety with poyer being held together by Elmer's glue and gum and I love him but the dude getting hurt every week

If they don't win the super bowl it will obviously be something that is discussed. 

[HomeskillitMoorman]

2 hours ago, Bills2022 said:

The Bills roster and the #1 seed in the AFC is all they need.  Then we pray McDermott doesn't choke. 

 

I honestly believe McDermott is our biggest obstacle to winning it all

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, Niagara Dude said:

Previous two years I did not agree on Beane doing nothing at the deadline and we lost both years to KC.  This season I again plead to either add a speed/power RB or perhaps depth at the safety position.  This is not even about if I like Singletary,  you need quality depth and Moss should not even be on this team. Cook is not ready and needs to get stronger before you can really count on him as a runner between the tackles.  I third or 4th rounder gets it done. Same people saying were fine were saying the same thing two previous years and then cried after losing to KC.  

 

Just because the Bills arent using Cook much does not mean he is not ready.  Cook has produced on just about every opportunity he has had outside of the fumble on his first carry.

[HomeskillitMoorman]

5 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Just because the Bills arent using Cook much does not mean he is not ready.  Cook has produced on just about every opportunity he has had outside of the fumble on his first carry.

 

I don't know if I'd go that far. He looked slow and unsure early in the season. I agree he could end up still being a bigger contributor this season though.

 

But that's going to be part of Beane and McD's judgement. If from what they've seen, they feel like Cook can become that back we need this season then it's fine if we don't pick one up. If they don't, I do think it's kind of necessary to add someone. Moss is terrible and we haven't really seen Cook be able to run the ball effectively. 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

9 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

 

I honestly believe McDermott is our biggest obstacle to winning it all

yeah, right.

 

Bills HC Sean McDermott becomes franchise’s all-time win-percentage leader

[BillsVet]

1 hour ago, Pete said:

RB IMO is one Beane's trade targets.  At the very least, we could use a short yardage back.

 

As much as many discount RBs,  Look what Saquan does for the GMen.  The Jets whole offense was Bryce.  San Fran is instant NFC contender with Christian.  Tennessee goes as DHenry goes

 

I love Motor, and I think Cook will be a great player for us.  But last night our running game was great, until we needed to be able to run.

 

A RB won't cost a 1st most likely.  Teams at this point of season know whether to sell now, and build for next year- or make a playoff run.  IMO many teams are sellers.

Now is the time to fine tune our roster for our Super Bowl quest

RB, S, OL - 3 positions Beane is considering adding IMO

 

Short yardage back?  What is this 1987?  Oh, it is?  Then let me know when we get Cornelius Bennett. 35 years ago today. 

 

Running backs at the trade deadline are almost like talking about Fred Flinstone's work brontosaurus.   

[aceman_16]

Sigh....this thread is an epic fail.