Bills release new stadium renderings

[Motorin']

9 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

I understand that. Watching in person the shadow is still annoying. Again it's not about the cameras it's about the shadow

 

I'm just saying it will continue to get much less annoying as the ability to manipulate the apparent contrast ratio continues to improve. And it's really only an issue on sunny days, and since Buffalo only averages 54 sunny days per year (mostly in the summer) you've got that going for ya!

[Bangarang]

4 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

No stadium will satisfy pro-dome people (domers? DOoMERs? dome heads?). 

 

Did you just make this up or have you always been this wrong?
 

4 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

This is such an obsession that that as soon as someone mentions dome I discount opinion. 

 

What a strange and ignorant thing to say. 

[mrags]

5 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

The Tottenham one looks like an actual roof structure too at the base. The Bills stadium looks like they are reusing some car port coverings from an apt complex

I think they are using a see through structure to ensure more natural lighting, and to not make it feel enclosed. Which I like, just wish they overhung about 20-30 more feet. Would make all the difference imo. 
 

I do believe what we see is pretty much what we’re going to get, with maybe a few surprises that they don’t want to disclose yet. But I do believe the awning is pretty much going to be what we see here. I just hope it’s more illusion in the pics and in person appears to be much more. 
 

I want games in the rain and winter without having to be soaking wet in 40* temps. 

[RocCityRoller]

Awww the Bills waited till my birthday to release renderings of the new stadium! How thoughtful!

[mrags]

5 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

 

Did you just make this up or have you always been this wrong?
 

 

What a strange and ignorant thing to say. 

Sounds like a 25 year old that does beer chugs before the game, jumps through 3 flaming tables in pajamas, and then walks into the stadium line 3 minutes before kickoff and wonders why he isn’t in his seats for the national anthem and flyover which happened when he was still doing butt chugs in the parking lot. 
 

He ain’t got not time for softies that don’t want to be out in the elements 

Edited October 27, 2022 by mrags

[teef]

Just now, RocCityRoller said:

Awww the Bills waited till my birthday to release renderings of the new stadium! How thoughtful!

ok...i'll say it.  happy birfday!

[SDS]

1 minute ago, mrags said:

I think they are using a see through structure to ensure more natural lighting, and to not make it feel enclosed. Which I like, just wish they overhung about 20-30 more feet. Would make all the difference imo. 
 

I do believe what we see is pretty much what we’re going to get, with maybe a few surprises that they don’t want to disclose yet. But I do believe the awning is pretty much going to be what we see here. I just hope it’s more illusion in the pics and in person appears to be much more. 
 

I want games in the rain and winter without having to be soaking wet in 40* temps. 

 

Just have to figure out where the fans are in each third and who is included in the 65%. I'm guessing 2/3 of the lower bowl is uncovered.

[BillsFanNC]

When we have beautiful September / October Sundays with temps in the mid 70's fans under cover in the new stadium will wax nostalgic about being completely open to the elements in the old stadium.

 

You can never make everyone happy.

 

Looks great to me.

[DaggersEOD]

I don’t know. I’m very glad that the new stadium process is progressing but man what a let down/meh. 
 

That’s a stadium designed for the drought 7-9 Bills IMO. Not the dynamic, SB Contending team we are today. Examples:

 

 - Opened air vs domed. The drought Bills needed harsh weather conditions to keep visiting dynamic O’s under control. Now WE have the dynamic O and the weather now impedes us. 

 

 - The tiny scoreboard. That’s great when you’d rather not think about the score because your team struggles to put drives together. But when every drives seems to lead to points, you want that score large and in charge!
 

- Small, in the corner “large-tron”. Again, more suited for a team you’d really rather not watch replays of (once was usually enough). Now, over and over, I want to see just HOW HIGH did Josh jump! Give me what LA and DAL have!

 

- Bland exterior/generic interior. More for the “see NFL we met the new minimum stadium standard” drought era Bills vs the “Come watch an amazing show” current Bills. 
 

This seems to be the sensible, sedan-like stadium of the last era of Bills football. I want the 2 seater, 1 gallon / mile Racecar to go with our Racecar team!

 

But as a sedan driver, it’s easy to say when you’re not paying the Bills! 😅😅

[Nextmanup]

13 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

A sleeker version of that without the bulky retractable roof system would look great.

In Buffalo, sitting in the shade the whole game is bad, not good, most of the season.

 

In Miami?  Not so much.

 

 

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

3 hours ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

Renderings subject to change! 
 

 

This is the  pre-Josh Allen era rendering..

[CountDorkula]

24 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I have to agree. In the world of architecture, this would be considered a bare minimum presentation for a project of this scale and public interest. Not exactly sure what’s going on here. 

What is your opinion of the overall situation, obviously you have questions and have said you don’t know what’s going on. 
 

but how could they mess this up this badly? 
 

renderings obviously could change but would you say this is 99.9% going to be it?

[US Egg]

Just now, CountDorkula said:

What is your opinion of the overall situation, obviously you have questions and have said you don’t know what’s going on. 
 

but how could they mess this up this badly? 
 

renderings obviously could change but would you say this is 99.9% going to be it?

Yeah SoCal, enlighten us….please? 🤓

[zow2]

Are those Buffalo out front or Woolly Mammoths?  Those things are huge.

[TheBrownBear]

1 hour ago, Logic said:

Between the canopy (even if it only covers +/- 60% of the seats), the stacked seat design, the "extensive radiant heating" that will be used, the "wind confusion wrap" (whatever the fook that is), and the rotation of the stadium's orientation to be less affected by wind....

I have a feeling fans will be much more comfortable in the new stadium. It'll be the best of both worlds, with more warmth and cover on gamedays, but also maintaining the outdoor football atmosphere that a stadium in Buffalo should have.

Then again, I'm a hopeless optimist....

I agree, Logic.  At first I was a little underwhelmed by the drawings, but the more I think about it, this design seems to split the difference of the dome vs. open air crowd - in a good way.  It should be infinitely more comfortable than the current stadium, while, first and foremost, maintaining a true outdoor football atmosphere.  As much as I like the idea of the comfort of a dome, I've almost always come away from domed games feeling really negative about the whole in person watching experience.  Domes just feel dark, sterile and lacking in energy.  

[BullBuchanan]

I love it. The snow and Christmas lights are an excellent touch.

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, CountDorkula said:

What is your opinion of the overall situation, obviously you have questions and have said you don’t know what’s going on. 
 

but how could they mess this up this badly? 
 

renderings obviously could change but would you say this is 99.9% going to be it?

In my professional opinion this is 100% going to be the design. They’ve been messing around with this thing for way too long for these to be nothing more than what we call ‘eye candy’. Now with regards to the minimal level of images in this release, I don’t have a clue. It’s possible they’re trying to slowly milk the design for the public relations factor and tease them out over time….but I personally think that’s a huge mistake, especially in light of what Tennessee just showed is possible. 

[DollaBills]

If you zoom in on the image it says Bills 24 Jets 3 on the scoreboard. Amazing detail

[Shake_My_Head]

5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

but I personally think that’s a huge mistake, especially in light of what Tennessee just showed is possible. 

...For 50% higher cost.    

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 hour ago, henry jones said:

It's definitely the most awe inspiring stadium, but it's still better than watching them play 8 games at Rogers Centre!! 

 

I'm not an acoustic expert, but the "canopy" should help focus the sound back towards the field, correct?

People who buy PSLs don't scream on defense.   They use their inside voice. 

 

😉 

[stevewin]

3 hours ago, RiotAct said:

Oof.  Don’t like the sound of that one bit.

When I saw that I thought of them projecting the game outside the stadium in one of the open areas

[CountDorkula]

Just now, Shake_My_Head said:

...For 50% higher cost.    

I think he means in terms of releasing renderings. 
 

also isn’t a majority of the cost coming from back casino revenue? 

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, Shake_My_Head said:

...For 50% higher cost.    

Ugh…let me rephrase….I’m not talking about what’s possible for the CONSTRUCTION budget. I’m talking about what’s possible to present with the design software. 
 

I hope that helps. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

13 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

I love it. The snow and Christmas lights are an excellent touch.

If you zoom in close enough, you'll see one family dressed fully for the Blizzard of '28.  Next to them..then... There's a chicken wearing yoga pants and guy wearing a t-shirt.

 

What da heck gives?  Am I being marketed. 

[stevestojan]

I wanted a dome. And since we knew that wouldn’t happen, I can’t complain about this design. I think it looks cool and if 65% of the seats are somewhat covered, my old ass can opt to sit there while you crazy table-jumping youngsters can enjoy the 31 degree rain/snow combo with a large piece of steel bench to keep your ass nice and medium-rare. 
 

[Einstein]

4 hours ago, DasNootz said:

Not a single folding table smash or fire in the exterior rendering - this is a fail for the marketing team.  They also forgot the obligatory Josh Allen leap over the stadium shot.  Here's a quick updated version before the SEQR meeting tonight.

 

I wish Allen was riding one of the Buffalo's.

[TH3]

1 hour ago, Gene1973 said:

It's like... Mayonase on white bread sandwiches and mineral water for dinner every day...

 

Almost looks like a generic sample model you would see when first openning 3D CAD or architectural software like Autodesk Revit or the like.

 

 

Boohoo

[Einstein]

 

[KHAN]

[mrags]

33 minutes ago, SDS said:

 

Just have to figure out where the fans are in each third and who is included in the 65%. I'm guessing 2/3 of the lower bowl is uncovered.

I’d guess that 2/3 of the lower bowl is uncovered as well as about 1/2 of the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th levels. I think even some of the upper level will not be under complete coverage. I really hope I’m wrong and it’s a pic of bad angles. 

[QCity]

1 hour ago, TH3 said:

What is the matter with most of you….freaking crybabies

 

The domeheads have been waiting for this day so they could cry.... about it not being a dome.

 

I believe the renderings look very much like what they promised, assuming you actually read what they promised and didn't start making up ideas in your head.

 

 

[CountDorkula]

3 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

The domeheads have been waiting for this day so they could cry.... about it not being a dome.

 

I believe the renderings look very much like what they promised, assuming you actually read what they promised and didn't start making up ideas in your head.

 

 

Yea well you open air facepeople suck.  

[Milanos Milano]

1 minute ago, Gene1973 said:

I have figured out a name for the new stadium:

 

Generic Field

Well there is no generic without a Gene. 

[SDS]

8 minutes ago, mrags said:

I’d guess that 2/3 of the lower bowl is uncovered as well as about 1/2 of the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th levels. I think even some of the upper level will not be under complete coverage. I really hope I’m wrong and it’s a pic of bad angles. 

you have to trust that they’re not lying when they say 65% of the seats are covered. I just don’t think you can get to 65% with your description. The only way this makes sense is that 40,000 seats are covered and 20,000 seats in the lower bowl are not.

 

now, I don’t know what it means to be undercover if you’re in the lower bowl and the roofline is 50 feet above you.

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, CountDorkula said:

I’m genuinely excited for when the tickets start to drop as the weather gets bad like they always do. 
 

 

The weather in Buffalo will always be a challenge. I wanted a dome too but realized an open air "canopy" stadium would be a good compromise if it reduced the wind. You're not going to make everyone happy.  And yes when the weather gets cold the prices will fall and I'll fly out and be glad for it. 

[Rico]

1 hour ago, Shake_My_Head said:

It's under the Buffalos...😇

I like it better over the urinals.

[Einstein]

12 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

I have figured out a name for the new stadium:

 

Generic Field

 

I think you'll grow to love it as Allen adds a few Championship banners to the rafters.

1 hour ago, CountDorkula said:

With that I can’t believe how hard the bills and their marketing team failed on this one.
 

the Tennessee release had a fly in video had some clips of the Titans playing had different views of the new stadium and some aspects about it. 
 

the Bills….. here are two ***** pictures. 

 

The Titans stadium does look pretty sweet.

 

It's like a colder-area version of the Rams stadium.

 

I would have loved to have that in Buffalo but its also half a billion more. Pegula did tell us that we need an economical stadium.

[mrags]

8 minutes ago, SDS said:

you have to trust that they’re not lying when they say 65% of the seats are covered. I just don’t think you can get to 65% with your description. The only way this makes sense is that 40,000 seats are covered and 20,000 seats in the lower bowl are not.

 

now, I don’t know what it means to be undercover if you’re in the lower bowl and the roofline is 50 feet above you.

I think a good portion of the “covered” seats that were not accounting for is club seats/suites or some sort, and open seating party decks of some sort. Similar to the clubs now. Only about 50% or even less are actually covered. None of the 100 levels are covered. I think you will see the upper deck in the new stadium covered with 2-4 middle levels with 50% or so covered. And very minimal of at all of the 100s covered. With a huge amount of 100 level seats I just don’t see it. At least not in these renderings. Plus, add in the fact that the roof will be dozens of feet above, not sure what kind of actually coverage they plan on providing for those 100 level people even if they are covered. 

[Einstein]

3 minutes ago, mrags said:

I think a good portion of the “covered” seats that were not accounting for is club seats/suites or some sort, and open seating party decks of some sort. Similar to the clubs now. Only about 50% or even less are actually covered. None of the 100 levels are covered. 

 

Great thought.

 

A lot of "covered" seats are likely suites/indoor areas/areas that have overhangs that are not the structural top overhang.

1 minute ago, Gene1973 said:

I looked at the Titans new stadium, and hate that one too. Looks like a giant Sega Genesis...

 

I thought it was pretty cool, personally.

 

Reminds me a lot of the Rams stadium, which I love and is considered the best stadium in the NFL.

 

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, Gene1973 said:

I looked at the Titans new stadium, and hate that one too. Looks like a giant Sega Genesis...

Style is always subjective but these are two very different stadium locations. Nashville’s design is a downtown location and I believe the architects are trying to create a downtown vibe with lots of balconies facing the streets so people can be seen in the stadium bars and restaurants, ‘hanging out’ before during and after the game. The other difference with a downtown design is that you cannot get far enough away from the facility to view it all at one time. The narrow streets and surrounding buildings block that kind of vista. The Orchard Park location is in the middle of a parking lot, so you can take in the entire stadium upon arrival. But unlike Nashville there’s no surrounding street atmosphere to engage with, so balconies and patios are somewhat superfluous.

 

Again, this isn’t about style. It’s about the stadium experience.