All your juicy Odell Beckham gossip

[FieldGeneral]

3 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

He is going to Dallas who has more money to pay him.

 

Agree. NFC is the easier path to a Super Bowl. Too many good teams in the AFC to take a discount, even for 5-6 games. 

[Mr. WEO]

3 hours ago, davefan66 said:

If his intention is to sign short term, it’s not with Buffalo.  Josh’s injury may play in the decision.

 

If it’s long term he wants, we have a good chance.  I don’t think he wants to do this every year at his age.  He’d rather sign long term in case something happens to him.

 

Smart team wouldn't sign him beyond this season.  That would be crazy.  Perhaps that's why he hasn't agreed to Buffalo. Jones is dumb enough to give him a multiyear deal.

[Nextmanup]

54 minutes ago, zevo said:

I think the exact opposite 

Agreed!  The "opposite" position here makes no sense.

I think he is going to want a big deal that sees him to the end of his career in 1 place.

 

If he is dead set on that, it won't be in Buffalo.

 

It's Beane's (and Miller's, and White's) job to convince him to sneak in here for a few weeks on the cheap, grab another championship ring, and then look for the big deal somewhere else.

 

If they can pull that off, I think he's here no question.

 

 

3 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

He is going to Dallas who has more money to pay him.

Depends on what he wants! And we don't know what that is.

 

It's not going to be about pure money at this stage for him.

 

[BillMafia716ix]

9 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

He is going to Dallas who has more money to pay him.

If OBJ tells Beane he wants to come, He’ll make the roster moves to make it happen. I’m thinking a 2yr incentive based contract.

[Mike in Horseheads]

How about 20m ....  https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35012972/sources-odell-beckham-jr-hopes-sign-end-november

[Scott7975]

15 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

How about 20m ....  https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35012972/sources-odell-beckham-jr-hopes-sign-end-november

 

Prorated at about 5mil for the rest of this year... yeah that could happen.  Why not?  This team needs offensive talent not named Allen/Diggs.  Regardless of what people think about OBJ, the guy is more talented than any receiver not named Diggs on our roster.

 

Imagine having Diggs/Beckham/Davis/Knox/Hines on the field.  That is a lot tougher to cover than what we have now.  Its a lot tougher to just bracket Diggs and man Davis if OBJ is also on the field. Which is what teams are doing now.

 

Want to take more pressure off Allen and make our offense better this season for a run then this is the best and only move left the Bills have to make.  This team needs more offensive talent. It just does.

Edited November 13, 2022 by Scott7975

[Nextmanup]

4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Prorated at about 5mil for the rest of this year... yeah that could happen.  Why not?  This team needs offensive talent not named Allen/Diggs.  Regardless of what people think about OBJ, the guy is more talented than any receiver not named Diggs on our roster.

 

Imagine having Diggs/Beckham/Davis/Knox/Hines on the field.  That is a lot tougher to cover than what we have now.  Its a lot tougher to just bracket Diggs and man Davis if OBJ is also on the field. Which is what teams are doing now.

Especially if OBJ and Diggs are never on the same side of the field!

 

The D can't cheat a scheme around BOTH that way...they'll have to pick.

 

 

[Mike in Horseheads]

9 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Prorated at about 5mil for the rest of this year... yeah that could happen.  Why not?  This team needs offensive talent not named Allen/Diggs.  Regardless of what people think about OBJ, the guy is more talented than any receiver not named Diggs on our roster.

 

Imagine having Diggs/Beckham/Davis/Knox/Hines on the field.  That is a lot tougher to cover than what we have now.  Its a lot tougher to just bracket Diggs and man Davis if OBJ is also on the field. Which is what teams are doing now.

 

Want to take more pressure off Allen and make our offense better this season for a run then this is the best and only move left the Bills have to make.  This team needs more offensive talent. It just does.

It also says he wants a multi year deal, so yes 20m

[Scott7975]

1 minute ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

It also says he wants a multi year deal, so yes 20m

 

Well Im sure he does but that doesnt mean he will get one. Its a tough sell to give a player a multi year deal of that price which would probably also be a hefty guarantee for a player coming off his second ACL injury.  We shall see what happens.  Somebody will sign him.  I personally hope its us.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

If McKenzie’s snaps begin to fall then I’ll believe OBJ to the Bills.

[Alphadawg7]

38 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

If McKenzie’s snaps begin to fall then I’ll believe OBJ to the Bills.

They need to fall regardless, Shakir should lead in snaps from this point on over McKenzie IMO

[davefan66]

18 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Smart team wouldn't sign him beyond this season.  That would be crazy.  Perhaps that's why he hasn't agreed to Buffalo. Jones is dumb enough to give him a multiyear deal.

Depends on the contract.   Beane won’t (can’t) sign him to a large guaranteed money contract, incentive laden if anything.  I’m sure obj would prefer financial security over 1 year contracts.

[KDIGGZ]

I think OBJ is dumb to want a multi year deal. He should go to the team where he can put up the best numbers in a prove it deal and then sign long term with someone next year. Why would someone give him a big contract for this year when the season will be 3/4 done by the time he sees the field?

[DJB]

 

[LyndonvilleBill]

4 minutes ago, DJB said:

 

I'm leaning Dallas. More cap space right now, Jerry World. Supposedly he doesn't want to play In the cold and is looking for a longer term contract as he wants to buy a house and settle down a little.  🤔

[Irv]

1. Make playoffs

2. Worry about OBJ

[Italian Bills]

I know there’s already a OBJ Thread opened, i’m sorry for this new one, but maybe it’s in a different point of view, so i ask the Mods to not merge it if possibile. Thank you.
 

Undoubtedly OBJ has talent, lot of… if healthy he’s elite no doubt. 
 

In the next 15 days he’ll sign his next contract and the Teams involved are: 

 

- Bills

- Giants

- Cowboys 

- Chiefs

- 49ers

 

My point is that signing a player like OBJ not only increase the quality and power of the offense, but give you the intangibles that only great players with great “ego” have. 
 

When you sign a player like OBJ you sign someone that teammates see like the ultimate piece to have a super team, that other teams see like the piece that can make that offense almost unstoppable, so the spirit go down. 
 

Signing OBJ would be huge, more huge now that we have a real chance to get the job done after years and years of major defeats and mediocrity. 
 

Please Beane, don’t miss this one, it’s our moment and we can’t let go this kind of opportunity. 

I couldn’t tolerate another Major Defeat (SB), or a minor one maybe against a Team where OBJ is playing. 
 

I WANT OBJ HERE !!!!!!! 

Edited November 13, 2022 by Italian Bills

[Bills!Win!]

8 minutes ago, Irv said:

1. Make playoffs

2. Worry about OBJ

 One could say if they signed OBJ that would improve their chances at the #1 seed. Even if he’s only 100% for the last game or 2 

[gordong]

On 11/12/2022 at 2:46 AM, BillMafia716ix said:

He’s coming folks get ready. After hearing Von on the Pivot today it makes too much sense.

Doubtful if he really wants 20mil a year as stated in the latest article…. My bet he ends up in Dallas .

[Mr. WEO]

4 hours ago, davefan66 said:

Depends on the contract.   Beane won’t (can’t) sign him to a large guaranteed money contract, incentive laden if anything.  I’m sure obj would prefer financial security over 1 year contracts.

 

the contract shouldn't be beyond this season.  The Rams gave him only a year (half a season)---and he was healthy at the time. Now he's banged up (yet again).

 

He accepted a single season contract last year.  He shouldn't expect a multi year deal when he's recovering from recurrent ACL tear.

[Bferra13]

He's following the sun and the money. 2 things Buffalo ain't got to offer him. Dallas or SF. Bank it.

[JohnBonhamRocks]

29 minutes ago, Irv said:

1. Make playoffs

2. Worry about OBJ

3. Learn to multitask for next year?

[Mrbojanglezs]

I'd be surprised if hes a bill

[Rc2catch]

I’m not sure Buffalo was ever truly in the running for him. It’s been mentioned many times Von is probably just helping his buddy build value and I tend to agree. If he was signing for a half season 700k salary or something I think Beane would have already snagged him to get him in the building with Buffalos medical team rehabbing him. 

[Italian Bills]

30 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

OBJ wants a long term deal which is huge money, he's not doing the prove it deal. I don't see how Beane can make this happen, unless he is willing to let a whole bunch of defensive players walk next offseason...

Whatever it takes to get the SB now. 

[DJB]

Oooooohhh another OBJ thread! 
 

Perhaps a new Edmunds thread is on the horizon as well 

[Locomark]

He is using the Bills hype to up his price. He isn’t coming here. He wants money and a giant media market. He won’t get either in Buffalo. 

Edited November 13, 2022 by Locomark

[SCBills]

29 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

OBJ wants a long term deal which is huge money, he's not doing the prove it deal. I don't see how Beane can make this happen, unless he is willing to let a whole bunch of defensive players walk next offseason...

Fwiw, he should.  
 

It’s a gamble, but if it hits… 

 

Forget just this year.. Diggs-OBJ-Davis with Shakir going into next year is about as good as it gets. 
 

We haven’t done this type of roster maneuvering since becoming a contender, but take Oliver’s money to help offset some of an OBJ contract and trade him for a 2nd or 3rd.  We can easily find a good 1T with that pick to go with Jones and Settle. 

[Italian Bills]

7 minutes ago, DJB said:

Oooooohhh another OBJ thread! 
 

Perhaps a new Edmunds thread is on the horizon as well 

Do you like more threads on midterm’s election ? 
 

Lot of sites on… in Italy also. 

[clayboy54]

3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Fwiw, he should.  
 

It’s a gamble, but if it hits… 

 

Forget just this year.. Diggs-OBJ-Davis with Shakir going into next year is about as good as it gets. 
 

We haven’t done this type of roster maneuvering since becoming a contender, but take Oliver’s money to help offset some of an OBJ contract and trade him for a 2nd or 3rd.  We can easily find a good 1T with that pick to go with Jones and Settle. 

I now believe that a lot of the decisions on this will be made over the next 2-3 games. If the window is still open to be “all-in” then OBJ will be a Bill. If we drop a game or two, then all that is off the table for this year.

 

You can mortgage some of the future with such a signing only if it reaps the reward of a Super Bowl. If it doesn’t work out, you will not have a second chance without a rebuild of sorts. This is the risk teams like the Rams took. You can see that it got them a ring, and now this. Maybe the Rams were extreme because they did it with multiple players. But, the same risk/reward applies to the Bills plans right now.

 

So far, Beane hasn’t been willing to mortgage the future. Will he now?

[Nextmanup]

3 minutes ago, clayboy54 said:

I now believe that a lot of the decisions on this will be made over the next 2-3 games. If the window is still open to be “all-in” then OBJ will be a Bill. If we drop a game or two, then all that is off the table for this year.

 

You can mortgage some of the future with such a signing only if it reaps the reward of a Super Bowl. If it doesn’t work out, you will not have a second chance without a rebuild of sorts. This is the risk teams like the Rams took. You can see that it got them a ring, and now this. Maybe the Rams were extreme because they did it with multiple players. But, the same risk/reward applies to the Bills plans right now.

 

So far, Beane hasn’t been willing to mortgage the future. Will he now?

I think we are probably already at that stage of choosing "all in" or not, and I think we should be "all in".

 

And I would DEFINITELY handicap us a bit, going forward, in exchange for OBJ now.

 

We're never going to have Josh as our QB AND this much supporting cast on this team again, b/c we won't be able to afford it.  Strike the iron while it is hot!

 

 

 

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, clayboy54 said:

I now believe that a lot of the decisions on this will be made over the next 2-3 games. If the window is still open to be “all-in” then OBJ will be a Bill. If we drop a game or two, then all that is off the table for this year.

 

You can mortgage some of the future with such a signing only if it reaps the reward of a Super Bowl. If it doesn’t work out, you will not have a second chance without a rebuild of sorts. This is the risk teams like the Rams took. You can see that it got them a ring, and now this. Maybe the Rams were extreme because they did it with multiple players. But, the same risk/reward applies to the Bills plans right now.

 

So far, Beane hasn’t been willing to mortgage the future. Will he now?

But we don’t even need to mortgage the future .. we just need to be more savvy with our moves. 
 

KC traded Hill and remained a contender. 
 

Pats moved off guys all the time during the Brady era. 
 

Letting Poyer walk and trading Oliver for a pick that we can use to draft a Top 100 player is how we can sign OBJ to a multi-year contract.   
 

If we have 4 Top 100 picks and no drastic need for a skill position .. go, in any order.. DT, S, OL, OL. 
 

These are the types of creative moves I do believe we’ll start seeing in the future.  Or maybe… I hope to. 

[clayboy54]

1 minute ago, Nextmanup said:

I think we are probably already at that stage of choosing "all in" or not, and I think we should be "all in".

 

And I would DEFINITELY handicap us a bit, going forward, in exchange for OBJ now.

 

We're never going to have Josh as our QB AND this much supporting cast on this team again, b/c we won't be able to afford it.  Strike the iron while it is hot!

 

 

 

I totally agree with you on this. But, if we continue to play sloppy, uninspired football over the next couple or few games like we did midseason last year, then I figure it’s a waste. Just let the current team play it out and see if we can overcome :13 on their own.

[KDIGGZ]

We really needed 2 threads for this guy?

[Virgil]

1 hour ago, Italian Bills said:

I know there’s already a OBJ Thread opened, i’m sorry for this new one,

Are you though? 

[clayboy54]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

But we don’t even need to mortgage the future .. we just need to be more savvy with our moves. 
 

KC traded Hill and remained a contender. 
 

Pats moved off guys all the time during the Brady era. 
 

Letting Poyer walk and trading Oliver for a pick that we can use to draft a Top 100 player is how we can sign OBJ to a multi-year contract.   
 

If we have 4 Top 100 picks and no drastic need for a skill position .. go, in any order.. DT, S, OL, OL. 
 

These are the types of creative moves I do believe we’ll start seeing in the future.  Or maybe… I hope to. 

I agree with you as well. However that is this next offseason. The OBJ question is this season. Do you take that plunge with an underperforming team?

 

Lets hope they stop underperforming today.

[SCBills]

Just now, clayboy54 said:

I agree with you as well. However that is this next offseason. The OBJ question is this season. Do you take that plunge with an underperforming team?

 

Lets hope they stop underperforming today.

Oh, this year … absolutely.  
 

Injuries have been killing this team.  
 

Healthy, they are loaded and OBJ provides exactly what they’ve been missing on Offense thus far. 

[Italian Bills]

19 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Are you though? 

Of course Virgil, i’m a true one. 

[RunTheBall]

At this point I wouldn’t mind using Oliver money to snag OBJ if that’s what would do it. Now’s the time to go all in. We could draft another DL in the mid rounds and get the same amount of production we’ve seen from Ed. Unless these coaches really feel he’s about to break out but it’s year 4, we’ve heard the same thing about Edmunds but at least Edmunds has stepped up a little this year.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, DJB said:

Oooooohhh another OBJ thread! 
 

Perhaps a new Edmunds thread is on the horizon as well 

Since you mentioned it I think it’s time we finally talk about it. Some people don’t think he is very good at linebacker