Gugny Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, ScottLaw said: Last thing we need is Tommy Sweeney getting significant snaps in a big playoff game… Ugh ... you just reminded me of the ingenious game plan against Houston in the playoffs that featured Duke Williams getting TEN ***** TARGETS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: So, we should post random, speculative trade scenarios because they have just as good a chance to be traded to the Bills than those reported by legitimate sources? Cool. I heard Panthers might move OT Ikem Ekwonu to for mid-round picks. Get it done, Beane. Ekwonu if I remember correctly also had very good guard potential coming out I wouldn't mind making a play for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: How upset will some of you be when Beane doesn't make a move?🤣 I’ll be upset for sure. Doesn’t mean they will end up needing an addition when February rolls around but for now I would be disappointed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: The NFL is becoming like MLB with all these rebuilding teams trading good players for draft picks. That's how you become the Cincinnati Reds, a team that is in a perpetual rebuild. you mean trading away good players? Yeah, “oh, there is next year and this prospect.”. Prospects are that, prospects. Everyone says the draft is a crapshoot, FA can be one, but much less so. SB window is now, lets do it. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, SCBills said: I think it makes sense. We tried to bring in Howard. Didn’t work out. Clearly the idea of two legit TE’s has been in the heads of Dorsey/McDermott/Beane. Hockenson has a low salary this year and then is under contract for roughly 9.5M next year. We can find the money to fit him next year. It’s pretty easy to find where we pay Edmunds almost twice that and offer Poyer a short term deal. We could simply not bring back one of them and then Hockenson is either extended or comes off the books as we potentially look to extend Gabe. I get the reasoning behind why it makes sense. But my question is if you think Hockenson is going to get the ball and be a difference maker then why isn’t Knox already getting the ball? TE almost seems like an afterthought in this offense. Which is why I don’t think we’d get the biggest return on the investment of trading for Hock. Knox is clearly TE 1 in this offense and I’d rather see us get him going before adding another guy that’s going to need the ball too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, SCBills said: I think it makes sense. We tried to bring in Howard. Didn’t work out. Clearly the idea of two legit TE’s has been in the heads of Dorsey/McDermott/Beane. Hockenson has a low salary this year and then is under contract for roughly 9.5M next year. We can find the money to fit him next year. It’s pretty easy to find where we pay Edmunds almost twice that and offer Poyer a short term deal. We could simply not bring back one of them and then Hockenson is either extended or comes off the books as we potentially look to extend Gabe. The Bills have 24 players with expiring contracts this offseason. $9.5M for Hockenson after paying $15M for Knox would be an absolute luxury spend. Borderline irresponsible. Adding on that we would give up cap space AND draft picks. I understand the cap can be manipulated, but I would rather take a day two TE on draft day and put $9.5M into Davis, Poyer, Morse, Ike, Edmunds or Jackson, etc. Edited November 1, 2022 by Mango Add on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: How upset will some of you be when Beane doesn't make a move?🤣 He’s never added to the roster via trade in season with Josh Allen as QB. He’s instead added those players in the offseason, Diggs and Von. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 TSW today at 4:00pm when the Bills have made 0 moves.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, Mango said: The Bills have 24 players with expiring contracts this offseason. $9.5M for Hockenson after paying $15M for Knox would be an absolute luxury spend. Borderline irresponsible. I understand the cap can be manipulated, but I would rather take a day two TE on draft day and put $9.5M into Davis, Poyer, Morse, Ike, Edmunds or Jackson, etc. Depends. Many people believe the Bills want to run a base 2 TE offense. I’ve seen the name Noah Fant also around Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I get the reasoning behind why it makes sense. But my question is if you think Hockenson is going to get the ball and be a difference maker then why isn’t Knox already getting the ball? TE almost seems like an afterthought in this offense. Which is why I don’t think we’d get the biggest return on the investment of trading for Hock. Knox is clearly TE 1 in this offense and I’d rather see us get him going before adding another guy that’s going to need the ball too. Hock is another legit threat pass catching TE. Trying to defend against both on the field at the same time can create massive mismatches and be a nightmare for a defensive coord. Doubt it will happen, but we can always dream. Edited November 1, 2022 by Billz4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Holy.. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, Bangarang said: We barely use the TE we already have who’s shown he can be just as much of a weapon for us. Plus I don’t think Beane is going to make a move for another TE like Hockenson after he just paid Knox. we can get creative and line up up in the slot or out wide. Helps out our red zone. Knox isn’t the pass catcher this guy is. He’s on the fifth year option so we can also trade him in the off season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, HappyDays said: Ha.. Literally any of us could have tweeted this. It’s all known info over the past two weeks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Hock is another legit threat pass catching TE. Trying to defend against both on the field at the same time can create massive mismatches and be a nightmare for a defensive coord. Doubt it will happen, but we can always dream. I’d probably call Vegas about Foster Moreau before I called Detroit about Hockenson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Holy.. Damn, I wanted him… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He’s never added to the roster via trade in season with Josh Allen as QB. He’s instead added those players in the offseason, Diggs and Von. PTSD from Kelvin Benjamin maybe... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Safety depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Hock trade terms....I would have done this. T.J. Hockenson, a 2023 fourth-round pick and a conditional 2024 fourth-round pick for 2023 second-round pick and a 2024 third-round pick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 Ugh......that would have been a great trade for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Super confused why we are obsessed with a RB add… Hunt makes sense but don’t understand the McBeane RB obsession. WR and line is much more of a need… unless OBJ is the addition later this month/early next month. OBJ being a potential “silent verbal” would certainly make sense, while also causing alot of short term frustration for us ha.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Chiefs made a move, Baltimore made a move. Philly and now Minny too. 4 of the 8 division leaders at the approximate halfway point made strong moves to improve right now. Of course, 49ers, in 2nd, got CMC. Personally, I am starting to feel like the f dem picks approach is not necessarily a bad idea. I hope we are able to follow suit and get better today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Holy.. This is a bit surprising, trading within your own division. Wonder what the Vikings gave up? Also, that Rams style of offense they run doesn't really utilize a TE a whole lot I thought. Now he'll be competing for targets with Thielen, Jefferson, Cook, Mattison, and the rest of the bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, ngbills said: Hock trade terms....I would have done this. T.J. Hockenson, a 2023 fourth-round pick and a conditional 2024 fourth-round pick for 2023 second-round pick and a 2024 third-round pick Confused as to why the Bills were not all over this. Top 5 TE for peanuts 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He’s never added to the roster via trade in season with Josh Allen as QB. He’s instead added those players in the offseason, Diggs and Von. True, but Beane on many occasions has said he tried to get Diggs before the trade deadline during the 2019 season. The Vikings weren't willing to part with him at that time, but it does show he's willing to trade during the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Damn, I wanted him… Within the division...Detroit just flat out doesn't care about ever winning again apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: True, but Beane on many occasions has said he tried to get Diggs before the trade deadline during the 2019 season. The Vikings weren't willing to part with him at that time, but it does show he's willing to trade during the season. And he was in on Von last season at the deadline. He just won't overpay and he values draft picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Beane sleeps more than a cat. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Kyle Pitts to Buffalo, now that would be a dope move!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Steel City Mafia said: Right track, wrong team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, FrenchConnection said: And he was in on Von last season at the deadline. He just won't overpay and he values draft picks. He shouldn't value our 2nd rounders though. Jury is still out on Cook but Beane has consistently missed in the 2nd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I feel like the name to watch out for us if we get a running back is nyheim hines 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: Confused as to why the Bills were not all over this. Top 5 TE for peanuts Maybe the price for us was higher given our picks are anticipated to be at the end of each round for years to come? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: True, but Beane on many occasions has said he tried to get Diggs before the trade deadline during the 2019 season. The Vikings weren't willing to part with him at that time, but it does show he's willing to trade during the season. Said the same about Von, didn’t want to send out high picks for a possible rental. His own words. Inquiring is not actually doing. The Bills can win a Super Bowl without a deadline deal but it does set him up for criticism if they don’t advance past the AFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, Negan said: Kyle Pitts to Buffalo, now that would be a dope move!!! I mean the Falcons seem determined not to use him anyway so why not? It's mind boggling how under-utilized he has been this year, but they are in first place and far outperforming what most people thought they would do, with some saying they would be the worst team in the NFL. Arthur Smith has to be in conversation for coach of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, CNYfan said: Safety depth. This to me is more important than a RB with all the injuries we had at that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Negan said: Kyle Pitts to Buffalo, now that would be a dope move!!! Falcons don’t even use him.. might as well trade him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) If Lions are selling I'm calling about Amon Ra and Swift. Edited November 1, 2022 by Big Turk 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Motor26 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, Big Turk said: If Lions are selling I'm calling about Amon Ra and Swift. The Lions are always selling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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