Schopp show without Schopp

[mushypeaches]

12 hours ago, wagon127 said:

I do believe they lost a bet one day at the station, and that's why they got picked to handle the bills post game show. That has to be the worst job, especially after home games, when every other caller is wasted.

 

I kind of laughed when there was a running weekly thing a few years ago of fans ending their post-game call with "Bulldog smokes the pole"

 

Yes, it's a bit juvenile, but anything to throw those two off their guard is a good listen

 

[Southern Bills Fan]

Schoop is usually very condescending and when he uses the " should we be like the fans" as a pejorative like he's so much smarter that everyone else, it really gets annoying. I've lived in quite a few different sports markets and I'm pretty surprised that an NFL market has these two as a post game show.

[Goin Breakdown]

I find it ironic how schopp always says he wants to talk facts and reality and yet talks about fantasy all the time. 
he will

get upset with callers who asks hypothetical questions yet if HE bring up "what ifs" then it OK

Edited October 6, 2022 by Goin Breakdown

[wagon127]

10 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

I find it ironic how schopp always says he wants to talk facts and reality and yet talks about fantasy all the time. 
he will

get upset with callers who asks hypothetical questions yet if HE bring up "what ifs" then it OK

Yeah, if there was something i really didn't like about him, it would be this. I like the fact he doesn't act like everything the team does will work out, or make excuses for the team when it doesn't. But the stuff you mentioned, is what I don't like about him.

[Bruffalo]

The show was better when Joe was the producer. The Extra Point show is the best thing on WGR, the morning show is decent, and I hear almost as much about the Ravens as I do the Bills when Schopp is on the air. 

[Big Turk]

40 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said:

Is Schopp more tolerable now that the Bills are a good team?  He seems to have lost much of his material because the Bills are winning more and a better run organization. JMO

 

He doesn't have much to complain about really when it comes to that and soon he won't have much when it comes to the Sabres either...they are the Bills right now from 5 years ago.

[MJS]

The thing that's bad about Schopp is he spends as much time as possible talking about anything but the Buffalo Bills. He goes on long tangents about really stupid things. He'll talk about players from other teams. He'll talk about betting and fantasy.

 

I really feel like he barely cares about the Bills. He even admitted one time to not actually watching the Bills game he was supposedly supposed to be talking about. His apathy comes through, and it doesn't do anything for him. Heck, he doesn't even seem to enjoy doing what he does, especially when he has to listen to callers. He is just a guy collecting his paycheck.

 

Bulldog (why does he call himself something so stupid?) is just a random guy to be there talking about stuff with Schopp. Doesn't have a good voice for radio. Doesn't provide any worthwhile analysis or insight. Schopp at least has a decent radio voice.

 

So yeah, I find their show boring and depressing. I see no point to it. I wonder how they haven't been replaced yet.

[Nextmanup]

18 hours ago, notwoz said:

Listening to the Schopp/Bulldog show tonight. Schopp is not on the air. He has a day off. 

I find the show surprisingly listenable without Schopp and his addictions to gambling, fantasy leagues and his ego.

Oh boy, another "I hate Mike Schopp" thread.  Seems like it's been a while since our last one.

 

Did you happen to notice how utterly inept Bulldog is?  How nervous he is when he has to go solo?  And how much he physically struggles to speak?

 

My biggest complaint with Schopp these days is that, as you mention, he is absolutely ADDICTED to gambling, lines, spreads, over/under, fantasy sports leagues, etc...

 

I have a theory that says he can't go more than about 10 minutes without making SOME kind of reference to "gambling" one way or the other.

 

I have ZERO interest in any of that.  Sports talk and sports gambling talk are 2 completely different topics IMO.

 

If it's getting to the point where all sports talk is to be dominated by gambling, I'm done listening to sports talk entirely.

 

Some days I have to shut it off, I hate it.

1 hour ago, DCbillsfan said:

Is Schopp more tolerable now that the Bills are a good team?  He seems to have lost much of his material because the Bills are winning more and a better run organization. JMO

It's not his "material".  He calls it as it is; when we were got garbage for 2 decades, he said so.  So did lots of us.

 

Now are are one of the better run teams in the league, are almost elite with analytics, and have as good a QB as anyone in the league.  It's a different world now with the team so commentary about that team is in a different world too.

 

I find Mike to be extremely flexible with the organization these days; it's hard to hear him say something negative.

 

My theory is that he doesn't want to end up as another Jerry Sullivan; hated by the kool aid drinking fanbase to the point where his employer decided it made better financial sense to let him go.

 

I genuinely believe Schopp realized he needed to change; maybe his superiors at the station forced him to see it this way.  I don't know.

 

 

18 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Haha, he is insufferable at times but I've gotten used to his "I'm the smartest guy in the room ans you are an idiot if you dint agree with me" schtick so it doesn't bother me as much anymore...

 

Sometimes he is actually pretty funny.

 

Actually, he is the smartest guy at WGR-550, and by a good bit in my estimation.

 

And quite a few of his callers are shockingly stupid.  I mean unbelievably stupid.

 

People who mis-pronounce (badly) player names, state things that are simply not true, invent their own realties, and so on.

 

As I have said here 100 times...if an INTELLIGENT caller calls in and actually contributes something of substance to the show, Schopp is extremely polite and praises the caller.

 

 

 

 

[DCbillsfan]

16 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

 

It's not his "material".  He calls it as it is; when we were got garbage for 2 decades, he said so.  So did lots of us.

 

Now are are one of the better run teams in the league, are almost elite with analytics, and have as good a QB as anyone in the league.  It's a different world now with the team so commentary about that team is in a different world too.

 

I find Mike to be extremely flexible with the organization these days; it's hard to hear him say something negative.

 

My theory is that he doesn't want to end up as another Jerry Sullivan; hated by the kool aid drinking fanbase to the point where his employer decided it made better financial sense to let him go.

 

I genuinely believe Schopp realized he needed to change; maybe his superiors at the station forced him to see it this way.  I don't know.

 

I think you know what I meant about Schopp.  Perhaps "material" isn't the correct term but his views of the Bills were rather negative for a long time.  I'm not defending the Bills.  They were a badly run organization for quite some time.  Schopp is a smart guy and rather articulate.    

[I'm Spartacus]

I haven't listened in a long time, but I couldn't stand how Schopp was obsessed with Lamar Jackson and how all teams were stupid not to draft him.

I think he used to play the race card regarding Lamar Jackson. I couldn't listen anymore.

[Goin Breakdown]

2 hours ago, wagon127 said:

Yeah, if there was something i really didn't like about him, it would be this. I like the fact he doesn't act like everything the team does will work out, or make excuses for the team when it doesn't. But the stuff you mentioned, is what I don't like about him.

Exactly. I don't mind his takes on the team. I think it's because he reminds me of a friend. Just the double standard is all. Funny thing is I've found myself now irritated when people ask how they are doing hahaha

[GustheDog33]

I listen most mornings to WGR on my way to work.  Really like Jeremy and his presence on the air and with Howard transitioning out and Joe likely filling that seat, I think morning show will be strong for a while. Schoop and Bulldog are ok for me.  I definitely prefer Bulldog to Schoop, but one without the other is an immediate no go for me.  I would like to listen to Extra Point more often, but its tough while I am at work.

[Nextmanup]

I literally just tuned into them, and slid the thing at the website to go back in time to the start of the show.

 

The first thing I heard was Schopp saying "I ran and bet the under yesterday."

 

True story; guy cannot keep himself from discussing gambling topics for more than 10 minutes.

 

😂

[US Egg]

The amount of daily local and national radio/TV/podcast sports shows are beyond oversaturation.

 

Very few of them are even worth regular listening or viewing.  

[RiotAct]

7 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

I literally just tuned into them, and slid the thing at the website to go back in time to the start of the show.

 

The first thing I heard was Schopp saying "I ran and bet the under yesterday."

 

True story; guy cannot keep himself from discussing gambling topics for more than 10 minutes.

 

😂

bro, do you even single-game parlay?

 

Trust me bro, it’s amazing. Please.  Trust me.

[Radar]

Don't listen to GR anymore. After surveying this thread I'm convinced I will continue not to listen.

[GunnerBill]

I don't mind the morning or afternoon shows (although I am listening to segments on catch up because you can't stream live in Europe in this GDPR age). I can't abide the extra point show. I like Sal a lot as a reporter but man giving him 2 hours a day to propagandise for the franchise is rough. I actually feel for Joe. He is good. He tries to see pros and cons. But man if he sees a con does Sal try and jump down his throat immediately.

[uticaclub]

On 10/5/2022 at 2:37 PM, Bferra13 said:

I actually enjoy him more than Bulldog haha. Bulldog is.. ehhh not my cup of tea.

I agree. Schoop can be annoying but does make his points, Bulldog…well he sucks

[Johnnyp566]

Be careful what you wish for. We are going to be stuck with “Sneaky Joe” and Nate Geary soon. 

[nosejob]

On 10/5/2022 at 5:42 PM, Steptide said:

I don't mind either of them honestly. I just wish they'd chill with the fantasy/betting talk so much. I know it's a big thing now, but it gets old after a while 

Especially when talking about how busy with how many fantasy leagues, sounds like a middle age guy living in parents' basement.

On 10/6/2022 at 11:49 AM, Bruffalo said:

The show was better when Joe was the producer. The Extra Point show is the best thing on WGR, the morning show is decent, and I hear almost as much about the Ravens as I do the Bills when Schopp is on the air. 

OBL is my bread and butter, but Sal and the extra point show is great.

Edited October 7, 2022 by nosejob

[letsgoteam]

My new job is 5 min away so I dont have time to listen, it would be my car ride home. I dont miss it. As others have said in some form or another, the only personality I want to listen to is Sal.

[Billsatlastin2018]

On 10/5/2022 at 6:05 PM, Big Turk said:

 

They pretty much talk about that on every show at some point now.

EVERY Sports show talks about that every day!

 

My problem is the 25 year olds, who’ve never made 25 bets in their lives, trying to tell me anything about the Sport, Gambling or both!

[ToGoGo]

Buffalo sports radio is loser central. Burn it bruh! 

[purple haze]

On 10/5/2022 at 2:31 PM, notwoz said:

Listening to the Schopp/Bulldog show tonight. Schopp is not on the air. He has a day off. 

I find the show surprisingly listenable without Schopp and his addictions to gambling, fantasy leagues and his ego.

I don’t mind Bulldog, but how they can’t find a newsreader who can actually read copy between segments, without stumbling over it - every time - I’ll never understand.

[machine gun kelly]

On 10/5/2022 at 5:33 PM, Big Turk said:

Haha, he is insufferable at times but I've gotten used to his "I'm the smartest guy in the room ans you are an idiot if you dint agree with me" schtick so it doesn't bother me as much anymore...

 

Sometimes he is actually pretty funny.

 

there’s an easy solution for those two ars clowns.  Movin the chains on nfl radio.  

[In Summary]

Stream the daily Locked on Bills podcast and the Cover1 shows instead.

[Chandler#81]

I listen every day, cuz I’m a sick Bills fan living in another State. 🤷‍♂️ Truth be told, they Suck! Their premise, inability to think well on their feet and yes, the stupid betting.
But they’re the ONLY thing on radio talking about the Bills..

[BillsFan692]

On 10/5/2022 at 6:46 PM, TheBrownBear said:

Same here.  I mean, they're not great, but most local sports talk radio around the country isn't either.  I like being able to hear Bills talk during the day being marooned out here in San Diego.

How are you listening to it? Every time i try to get them on audacy now i get some strange cbs national radio with some guy that sounds like the ladies man from SNL and he does talk about the bills but he isnt local and its trash

Edited October 8, 2022 by BillsFan692

[Rhyno716]

I don't like the constant gambling/fantasy discussion on WGR either but since Audacy owns Betql unfortunately it's not going anywhere.

 

As for the morning show Howard is going to be missed when he leaves for good. The 3 day arrangement Howard made is only through football season and he will decide if he's staying or going to do something else after the season is over according to the Buffalo news article that came out after he announced his new schedule. Even though I liked Sneaky Joe on the afternoon show and the nightcap he sucks with Jeremy . I say this because he is a carbon copy of Jeremy. They both have the same talking points and opinions on almost everything and to me that doesn't make compelling discussion when the 2 hosts are always agreeing on everything.

 

As for the afternoon show Schopp can be interesting until he goes down the gambling/fantasy rabbithole. I can appreciate his contrarian view on almost everything because at least it creates interesting discussions with whoever is co-hosting with him. He's cringeworthy with callers but lets face it most of the callers are terrible.

 

When Howard does eventually leave they should really consider moving Bulldog to the morning show with Jeremy and move Sneaky Joe to the afternoon show with Schopp.

 

I like Sal but he's such a homer. It kills him when he actually has to criticize the Bills for anything and it's obvious. I'm surprised the Bills haven't hired him away form WGR for OBL.

[Nextmanup]

2 minutes ago, Rhyno716 said:

I don't like the constant gambling/fantasy discussion on WGR either but since Audacy owns Betql unfortunately it's not going anywhere.

 

As for the morning show Howard is going to be missed when he leaves for good. The 3 day arrangement Howard made is only through football season and he will decide if he's staying or going to do something else after the season is over according to the Buffalo news article that came out after he announced his new schedule. Even though I liked Sneaky Joe on the afternoon show and the nightcap he sucks with Jeremy . I say this because he is a carbon copy of Jeremy. They both have the same talking points and opinions on almost everything and to me that doesn't make compelling discussion when the 2 hosts are always agreeing on everything.

 

As for the afternoon show Schopp can be interesting until he goes down the gambling/fantasy rabbithole. I can appreciate his contrarian view on almost everything because at least it creates interesting discussions with whoever is co-hosting with him. He's cringeworthy with callers but lets face it most of the callers are terrible.

 

When Howard does eventually leave they should really consider moving Bulldog to the morning show with Jeremy and move Sneaky Joe to the afternoon show with Schopp.

 

I like Sal but he's such a homer. It kills him when he actually has to criticize the Bills for anything and it's obvious. I'm surprised the Bills haven't hired him away form WGR for OBL.

Your comments here are all fair, and pretty much dead-on accurate as far as I'm concerned.

 

Yeah, I can't listen to Sal.  He's useful for reporting stuff that happened "today" over at the stadium/practice field.  He'll convey info. on what's happening right now. Anything that involves further insight or nuance he is terrible at, and he ALWAYS is pro-Bills before anything else.

 

I'm honestly not sure he is aware of what a journalist is supposed to be, or why it's important for him to maintain an air of neutrality with regard to the team.

 

I have a fear!  The future of "sports talk" is going to be 100% about gambling, all discussions will be betting related, and the intended audience will be gamblers.  If that alienates others (like you and me) they won't care...b/c that is the target they are shooting for.

 

I literally turn the stuff off when they bring on their "fantasy consultant" guy for a 20 minute segment, or anything similar.

 

I don't know how Schopp gambles as much as he does with his salary.  His wife is an attorney, that probably helps.

 

 

 

[HOUSE]

I gave up on that show 5 years ago..

SCHOOP WAS HIRED AS A PROFESSIONAL TROLL TO Agravate and increase listener volume. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT and I got tired of it.

If you like that stuff, knock yourself out....

 

Edited October 8, 2022 by HOUSE

[Low Positive]

4 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

I gave up on that show 5 years ago..

SCHOOP HAS HIRED AS A PROFESSIONAL TROLL TO increase listener volume. I got tired of that.

 

Most local afternoon sports talk guys across the country are like this. 

[without a drought]

9 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

I gave up on that show 5 years ago..

SCHOOP WAS HIRED AS A PROFESSIONAL TROLL TO Agravate and increase listener volume. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT and I got tired of it.

If you like that stuff, knock yourself out....

 

Sure, ruin it for everyone else.

 

 

While you're at, maybe you can save me watching the last 4 seasons of Breaking Bad too.

[GustheDog33]

On 10/6/2022 at 3:09 PM, GustheDog33 said:

I listen most mornings to WGR on my way to work.  Really like Jeremy and his presence on the air and with Howard transitioning out and Joe likely filling that seat, I think morning show will be strong for a while. Schoop and Bulldog are ok for me.  I definitely prefer Bulldog to Schoop, but one without the other is an immediate no go for me.  I would like to listen to Extra Point more often, but its tough while I am at work.

@gomper Why is this a Vomit for you?

[Bills!Win!]

I went to turn on WGR via Audacy to listen to see if there was sabres pregame talk. I immediately turned it off upon hearing Mike Schopp. His miserable voice automatically puts me in a bad mood. 

[Coldfronts]

Yeah, 'The Coach' is pretty good on there

[Stads]

I turned WGR on for the drive. It's just Schopp. He explains that he has 6 guests on so the only time for calls is in the first segment. He proceeds to say, "I'd like to spend the next 20 minutes talking about the Chiefs trade for Kadarius Toney." We just had stadium renderings released, the Sabres are playing tonight back from the West Coast trip, and the Bills are playing on Sunday night. One of those topics might be better to discuss. I realize that the fact that I listen is part of the problem, but this needs to get better

[Straight Hucklebuck]

2 minutes ago, Stads said:

I turned WGR on for the drive. It's just Schopp. He explains that he has 6 guests on so the only time for calls is in the first segment. He proceeds to say, "I'd like to spend the next 20 minutes talking about the Chiefs trade for Kadarius Toney." We just had stadium renderings released, the Sabres are playing tonight back from the West Coast trip, and the Bills are playing on Sunday night. One of those topics might be better to discuss. I realize that the fact that I listen is part of the problem, but this needs to get better

As soon as he said, up next I have Joe Ostrowski from Bet QL on to talk spreads I turned it off.

[Stads]

14 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

As soon as he said, up next I have Joe Ostrowski from Bet QL on to talk spreads I turned it off.

I understand that gambling has a fairly prominent place in the sporting world right now. If you want that, then go listen to 1520. That's literally all they talk about. It doesn't need to also leak into the flagship station of two professional sports teams. I could see one segment a week being palatable, but we have multiple weekly fantasy/gambling guests on. I would like to phase WGR out in the afternoons. Other than the Locked on Bills podcast, what are other good options?

[LabattBlue]

Anyone who has SiriusXM should never listen to Schlep & his lapdog.  It should always be Movin’ the Chains. 
 

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