Wizard Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Damn. Losing Hyde really hurts from his talent, professionalism, and as a true culture creator of the Bills' identity and defense. I think Johnson is a serviceable starter and Hamlin gives alright depth. Any safety vets on non-playoff teams that may reasonably be looked at in a trade? 1 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 This is why the Bills built depth on the team. They are better off from within than some outsider. I trust this coaching staff with the secondary more than anything else. 12 1 7 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 I sincerely doubt it. I think the Bills coaches rate Hamlin and Johnson much more so than some of our fans. I believe we won’t miss much of a beat with Johnson in, this is his time to shine. 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Get Eric Weddle out of retirement. He's what? 40 years old? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro Nimbus Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Some of you worry too damn much. The Bills will be fine with the depth they have. 5 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 I have no doubt Brandon Beane is looking at everything, NFL practice squads, some recently retired players, Trades, etc. I will make a prediction, when a few teams are clearly out of the playoff race, Beane will most likely trade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Johnson and Hamlin will fill in and I think will do a good job especially when Trey gets back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) Why is he always so annoying? I find highly improbable that Mark Gaughan reported on the significance of the injury mid-week, but the Bills were caught off guard. The guy replacing him has been in the system for years. Not sure why “this would hit Bills harder than most”. Edited September 24, 2022 by SCBills 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 As I said in the Micah Hyde injury thread. This is why you draft and develop. This is the EXACT situation. Hamlin and Johnson have been developing for years now. Johnson has been here 3 years in the film room and practice with Hyde and Poyer. He knows his job. He’s also playing for HUGE amounts of money. If Hyde plays all season Johnson is probably scrounging for a contract next year with barely no tape. Now he has a chance to play on an elite team and put out film for the league to see and get a contract next offseason. There is not an option available that will fit better than Jaquan right now. He knows the system, the players, the tendencies. Obviously they’ll address the depth or if they like what we have they’ll sign depth in another area. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Not sure why “this would hit Bills harder than most”. Because Thad likes drama. 🤨 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Let’s have a few more threads to discuss Safety issue to make sure we can cover every possible angle… My vote is to wait and see how Johnson and/or Hamlin look first hey? Johnson in particular has been waiting in the wings for this opportunity for a while.. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Everyone please R-E-L-A-X. Wait til there really is a problem. Some of you still have drought PTSD. You either believe in you’re team, the coaching and Mgmt, or you don’t. If every hiccup and hate to tell you there will probably be another, you do t have the stomach for a Bills Mafia guy. Weather the storm. Bright side. Tre will be back in A few weeks, the D Line even with injuries is better, and our coaches always get the most out of our secondary. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Johnson has big time potential, wouldn’t be shocked to see Cam Lewis as the Safety 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 minute ago, machine gun kelly said: Everyone please R-E-L-A-X. Wait til there really is a problem. Some of you still have drought PTSD. You either believe in you’re team, the coaching and Mgmt, or you don’t. If every hiccup and hate to tell you there will probably be another, you do t have the stomach for a Bills Mafia guy. Weather the storm. Bright side. Tre will be back in A few weeks, the D Line even with injuries is better, and our coaches always get the most out of our secondary. Hyde and Poyer don’t have elite athletic traits. They are smart, dedicated players that fit our scheme. No reason Jaquan Johnson can’t do the same. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Let’s have a few more threads to discuss Safety issue to make sure we can cover every possible angle… My vote is to wait and see how Johnson and/or Hamlin look first hey? Johnson in particular has been waiting in the wings for this opportunity for a while.. Why more threads?! We need a dance! 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Johnson has big time potential, wouldn’t be shocked to see Cam Lewis as the Safety 4 Siran as well possibly. Decent amount of position flexibility for some of these guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 I don’t think there will be any major outside moves made I think given Johnson has been in the system for 4 years and was drafted by this team and has played well in spot duty I think they will be fine with him there. Now that’s not to say that I can’t see McBeane bringing in defensive reinforcements via trade down the line but I think they like what they have in Johnson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Just now, HOUSE said: Everybody please panic, stand in the street and yell. I love this...... There is only one solution. We need more Johnson’s on this team. Jaquan, taron, Duke, if they add someone it’s gotta be a Johnson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, SCBills said: Why is he always so annoying? I find highly improbable that Mark Gaughan reported on the significance of the injury mid-week, but the Bills were caught off guard. The guy replacing him has been in the system for years. Not sure why “this would hit Bills harder than most”. Wasn't Hyde getting his second opinion a day or two after the game, you'd have to think they had a pretty good idea then. He was one of the first ruled out this week Thad is just full of hot air. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, SCBills said: Why is he always so annoying? I find highly improbable that Mark Gaughan reported on the significance of the injury mid-week, but the Bills were caught off guard. The guy replacing him has been in the system for years. Not sure why “this would hit Bills harder than most”. B.c if he didn't put that you never would have shared and showed his tweet. Smart click bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Just now, TBBills said: B.c if he didn't put that you never would have shared and showed his tweet. Smart click bait. Touche’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rochesterfan Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: Wasn't Hyde getting his second opinion a day or two after the game, you'd have to think they had a pretty good idea then. He was one of the first ruled out this week Thad is just full of hot air. Especially since Hyde is traveling with the team - he will be there to make sure these guys are ready and will get everyone together. It was a typical “Hot Take” from Thad. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Why more threads?! We need a dance! We can dance if we want to, you can leave you’re friends behind, cuz if you don’t dance, then we can’t dance, and we’ll leave you behind. It’s a Safety Dance! Classic 80’s Ridge. 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Dude, that was funny. As Ridge said, it’s a Safety Dance. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: As I said in the Micah Hyde injury thread. This is why you draft and develop. This is the EXACT situation. Hamlin and Johnson have been developing for years now. Johnson has been here 3 years in the film room and practice with Hyde and Poyer. He knows his job. He’s also playing for HUGE amounts of money. If Hyde plays all season Johnson is probably scrounging for a contract next year with barely no tape. Now he has a chance to play on an elite team and put out film for the league to see and get a contract next offseason. There is not an option available that will fit better than Jaquan right now. He knows the system, the players, the tendencies. Obviously they’ll address the depth or if they like what we have they’ll sign depth in another area. This post makes me feel a lot better about our situation. Lot of good points. Johnson will thrive 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) TBD Squad, im traveling during the early part of the game tomorrow for work to Philly so root on our Bills. I’m praying to the airline gods my AA flight has the tvs and has the game. Now that we are both 2-0, this one becomes even more important. For those heading south, drive the fir weathered fans of South Beach nuts and we’ll rule the 2nd half taking over the stadium. Our boys will love it. GO BILLS! 20-0 BABY! Edited September 24, 2022 by machine gun kelly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Everybody is saddened to hear Micah’s injury but don’t get into a panic Safety is one of the few positions where Massive growth happens… poyer and Hyde were not even full time starters before Buffalo… now all pros Johnson has pedigree and time in the system… He’s gonna ball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Honest question, for those posting Johnson and Hamlin will be fine. What are you basing that on? Hyde and Poyer have barely left the field in the last four years. There is very little game tape for any of the back up safeties. For a few years, Neal was the 3rd safety. I'm not saying they can't play well, I just don't understand all the posts that say the defense will be fine or that the backups will play well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 48 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: As I said in the Micah Hyde injury thread. This is why you draft and develop. This is the EXACT situation. Hamlin and Johnson have been developing for years now. Johnson has been here 3 years in the film room and practice with Hyde and Poyer. He knows his job. He’s also playing for HUGE amounts of money. If Hyde plays all season Johnson is probably scrounging for a contract next year with barely no tape. Now he has a chance to play on an elite team and put out film for the league to see and get a contract next offseason. There is not an option available that will fit better than Jaquan right now. He knows the system, the players, the tendencies. Obviously they’ll address the depth or if they like what we have they’ll sign depth in another area. Your partially right and wrong Yes this is why you draft and develop… It’s time for Johnson to ball But he wouldn’t be scrounging for a contract next year… That’s why there’s pro personnel scouts to scour under the radar NFL players If not the bills He absolutely Would be given a contract with the chance to start… He’s put out plenty of good film in preseason and limited season work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Just now, Ethan in Cleveland said: Honest question, for those posting Johnson and Hamlin will be fine. What are you basing that on? Hyde and Poyer have barely left the field in the last four years. There is very little game tape for any of the back up safeties. For a few years, Neal was the 3rd safety. I'm not saying they can't play well, I just don't understand all the posts that say the defense will be fine or that the backups will play well. Because in the limited time he has played he has played well. He also always plays well in the pre season. You can read in the commentary from Bills players even former players who believe that Jaquan is a baller and just needs his opportunity to show it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Taro Nimbus said: Some of you worry too damn much. The Bills will be fine with the depth they have. Please define "fine." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 I think Johnson is gonna turn some heads. He isn’t “serviceable.” He just isn’t Micah. He is also a big hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Remember when we lost Tre White last year? We still did well. This team is greater than it's individual parts. That being said I really will miss Hyde this year, McDermott obviously loved that guy because he was mister dependable, returning punts, onside kicks and he never took a day off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Your partially right and wrong Yes this is why you draft and develop… It’s time for Johnson to ball But he wouldn’t be scrounging for a contract next year… That’s why there’s pro personnel scouts to scour under the radar NFL players If not the bills He absolutely Would be given a contract with the chance to start… He’s put out plenty of good film in preseason and limited season work I’m not sure. I don’t think he’d be out of work next year, maybe I used a poor choice of words but I’d imagine he’s playing for about 5-10 million in guarantees on that contract though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 It sucks, no doubt. My bigger worry is starting 2 rookie CBs this week, Johnson and Poyer questionable against a HOF WR in his prime and a top-end young WR on a hot streak. It will be a test. Hopefully the front 7 helps out our DBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Honest question, for those posting Johnson and Hamlin will be fine. What are you basing that on? Hyde and Poyer have barely left the field in the last four years. There is very little game tape for any of the back up safeties. For a few years, Neal was the 3rd safety. I'm not saying they can't play well, I just don't understand all the posts that say the defense will be fine or that the backups will play well. I would say I base it on coaching. They’ve been in the system a long time now working with the coaches along with Hyde and Poyer. They’re in every meeting, seeing all the film. Why would we think a free agent or trade target would perform better than guys who have been here for years? I think the defense can still stay elite, but that’s based solely on the pass rush staying this consistent and not based on the talent in the secondary. Without a pass rush we’ve seen how far Hyde, Poyer, Tre and Taron can take this defense, and it hasn’t been enough. With a dominant pass rush though the sky is the limit imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 What’s LaRon Landry doing these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Why is he always so annoying? I find highly improbable that Mark Gaughan reported on the significance of the injury mid-week, but the Bills were caught off guard. The guy replacing him has been in the system for years. Not sure why “this would hit Bills harder than most”. Late in the week for what, Thad? They practiced all week without him. Edited September 24, 2022 by YoloinOhio 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rew Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 They will definitely want to bring in a DB for depth. As everyone else said, we have safetys and cbs that can play safety ready to play in this system. Expect some 2-4 year talent that never impressed his former team, but was well rated in draft to join our practice squad or active roster as a backup sometime in the next few weeks. If they can't find the right guy, then they probably feel comfortable with who they have, baring another injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 This is only going to make this already close team even closed and help rally them toward the ultimate goal. Wishing the best of health to Micah and the rest of the injured players. Go Bills!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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