Safety depth

[Success]

Apologies if this isn't worth a 2nd thread, but w/ the Hyde news, I was curious what everyone's thoughts were on this.

 

When Tre gets back, we'll be very deep at corner.  I don't know enough about the game to guess on this, but is there a chance they try to convert one of the CB's to safety for the remainder of the season?  Or do you think they'll look at either picking up a vet (not sure whose out there), either pulling someone out of retirement or making a trade?

 

[gonzo1105]

It’s Poyer, Johnson, Hamlin, and Cam Lewis.
 

Johnson, Hamlin, and Lewis have been in this system awhile so I see them giving their guys a shot first before considering a different move 

[Success]

Just now, gonzo1105 said:

It’s Poyer, Johnson, Hamlin, and Cam Lewis.
 

Johnson, Hamlin, and Lewis have been in this system awhile so I see them giving their guys a shot first before considering a different move 

 

Thanks - completely forgot about Lewis....

 

[boyst]

Cam Lewis has been playing safety with us for a while. Practices and preseason, primarily. He played some games last year in relief at safety.

 

Also, poyer and Hyde we're both cbs in college and converted.

 

If anyone can coach a DB it's this crew 

[YoloinOhio]

Benford can add safety depth too imo when Tre returns assuming Dane is healthy. It feels like a great role for him.

 

siran Neal?

[Success]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Benford can add safety depth too imo when Tre returns assuming Dane is healthy. It feels like a great role for him.

 

siran Neal?

 

I was wondering about Neal also.  I'm all fuzzy today, but I thought he was our backup safety previously (though he's on the CB depth chart this year).

 

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

Cam Lewis has been playing safety with us for a while. Practices and preseason, primarily. He played some games last year in relief at safety.

 

Also, poyer and Hyde we're both cbs in college and converted.

 

If anyone can coach a DB it's this crew 

Great point, and people forget that Hyde  & Poyer didn’t become elite Safeties until they came to Buffalo.   
 

That’s not to downplay how good they are, but McDermott and co. seem to be elite at identifying, scheming and coaching up the secondary. 

[Niagara Dude]

If Beanne decides to add safety help,  any suggestions of potential free agents or guys we could trade for?  I was thinking about Landon Collins,  not sure if he has signed with another team.

[blacklabel]

I think Jaquan Johnson is gonna be alright. Even in garbage time when he's played he's shown a knack for the ball. Everything I read on him coming out of college said he's everything you want in a safety, instincts, reads, etc. he's just not the biggest dude. 

 

I saw some mentions of Siran Neal, he seems to kinda be a jack of all trades DB for them but it would seem they like him best at corner when needed and then he's the gunner on special teams. I suspect they'll be doing some shuffling around to figure out what's gonna work best.

[Billzgobowlin]

Landon Collins was playing well but past couple years he has regressed

[ndirish1978]

Landon Collins still an FA. Josh Thomas on Cardinals PS and Dean Marlowe is on the Falcons active roster per @JoeMarino. 

[Bob in STL]

Johnson and Hamlin are getting the first shots at replacing Hyde.  

[ColoradoBills]

4 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

If Beanne decides to add safety help,  any suggestions of potential free agents or guys we could trade for?  I was thinking about Landon Collins,  not sure if he has signed with another team.

 

It's being discussed in the other thread.

[GunnerBill]

I don't see Collins as a scheme fit. He is just a name people know. Thomas is the obvious option if they still like him.

[GunnerBill]

57 minutes ago, Success said:

 

I was wondering about Neal also.  I'm all fuzzy today, but I thought he was our backup safety previously (though he's on the CB depth chart this year).

 

 

He was drafted as a safety out of college and I think listed as a safety his first year. But he has played as a nickel corner, a dime or a "big nickel" when he has got in games for us on D.

[HappyDays]

Jaquan Johnson will get his shot first. If that fails, once White comes back maybe they try Benford at safety. We have a deep and versatile secondary. More likely than not the solution is already on the roster.

[Kaenon]

Bernard can also play safety, right?

[Codyny13]

Jaquan Johnson is in his 4th year. Kid can play. 

[Big Blitz]

F it.

 

Add more d linemen. 

 

We can't have enough.  

[That's No Moon]

I might give Jason McCourty a call and see how his foot is feeling

[SCBills]

Poyer/Johnson

 

Hamlin/Lewis

 

Pretty sure that’s the answer.  

[Royale with Cheese]

I think they’re comfortable with Hamlin and Johnson.

[Virgil]

It sucks to have lost Marlowe.  I thought he played well and we could use the depth now. 

[Coach Tuesday]

2 minutes ago, Virgil said:

It sucks to have lost Marlowe.  I thought he played well and we could use the depth now. 

He’s been whiffing on tackles for Atlanta this year.  In other words, he’s fitting in perfectly there.

[frostbitmic]

Cam Lewis has been working as both a CB and Safety, I'd expect him to be our #4 safety.

 

Siran Neal was also a Safety before they moved him to CB. They could move him back to Safety as well.

 

We should've had and should have going forward, a Safety on the PS.

[HOUSE]

Has to be an ex Panther 

[frostbitmic]

7 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Has to be an ex Panther 

They raided our PS for Blackshear, time to raid theirs

Edited September 24, 2022 by frostbitmic

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Any chance they move Poyer to FS and they try the linebacker Bernard at SS? He's tiny but supposedly quick.

[TBBills]

Bills have great depth won't be noticed as much as the doomsayers are hoping. 

Edited September 24, 2022 by TBBills

[Coach Tuesday]

Jaquiski Tartt is out there and he’s an interesting player - also a top-3 name.

Edited September 24, 2022 by Coach Tuesday

[Punching Bag]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

Great point, and people forget that Hyde  & Poyer didn’t become elite Safeties until they came to Buffalo.   
 

That’s not to downplay how good they are, but McDermott and co. seem to be elite at identifying, scheming and coaching up the secondary. 

 

There was a lot of debate in Green Bay regarding Hyde with a number of fans and watchers saying he was better than current CBs.  What Hyde showed there was flexibility doing different roles well there including safety, CB and MCB.  He was free agent I wanted Bills to target most and they got him partly due to that flexibility.

[Punching Bag]

13 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Jaquiski Tartt is out there and he’s an interesting player - also a top-3 name.

 

Tartt was looked at by Eagles and they actually traded for a player instead so I do not think he has much left.  Maybe sign to PS and elevate for a game if needed but better to get a younger player.

[SectionC3]

55 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

I don't see Collins as a scheme fit. He is just a name people know. Thomas is the obvious option if they still like him.

Based on how his pre-season usage I wonder if Thomas fell out of favor here.  He probably was #6 on the S depth chart.  

[Big Turk]

Landon Collins is a damn good player...Bills should kick the tires very hard on at least bringing him in for a visit.

[Punching Bag]

31 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Any chance they move Poyer to FS and they try the linebacker Bernard at SS? He's tiny but supposedly quick.

 

Bernard at 6'1" in not small for a safety and tackles well which is required in Bills defense but he is too small; for role Poyer does; Poyer sometimes matches up with offense linemen occupying them so other defense linemen are free.  If he plays safety he would be better in Hyde's role.

[GunnerBill]

7 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Based on how his pre-season usage I wonder if Thomas fell out of favor here.  He probably was #6 on the S depth chart.  

 

Agree and allude to that earlier in the thread. Having said that Nick McCloud was the #5 and he is on an active roster and not an option.

[GreggTX]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Benford can add safety depth too imo when Tre returns assuming Dane is healthy. It feels like a great role for him.

 

siran Neal?

That could well be his future as it might better fit his skillset. I'm super excited about his future. I know his measureables aren't that impressive, but the same was true of Don Maynard and he's in the HOF. I know that's a remote possibility, but I'd wager he'll be a better player than Levi Wallace before long.

[Simon Says]

2 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

It’s Poyer, Johnson, Hamlin, and Cam Lewis.
 

Johnson, Hamlin, and Lewis have been in this system awhile so I see them giving their guys a shot first before considering a different move 

Neal could adjust to safety and early on there was talk of Benford moving over

[GunnerBill]

23 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

There was a lot of debate in Green Bay regarding Hyde with a number of fans and watchers saying he was better than current CBs.  What Hyde showed there was flexibility doing different roles well there including safety, CB and MCB.  He was free agent I wanted Bills to target most and they got him partly due to that flexibility.

 

Yep. Hyde was very good in Green Bay but his versatility hurt him. It felt like they lost DBs ever year to injury and he got shunted around to plug holes rather than getting a sustained run at a spot. So when the contract came due they didn't realise what they had and I was with you he was a guy I actively wanted them to target that offseason. Thought and said on here that he was a perfect scheme fit for McDermott. 

[ColoradoBills]

58 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

I might give Jason McCourty a call and see how his foot is feeling

 

There's a couple of vacant apartments in my mom's retirement community in West Seneca.

It's fairly close to the stadium.