RoyBatty is alive Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Jerry Hughes and OJ Howard, neither was going to stick with the Bills this year so they ended up as Texans and turned into stars in their first regular game. Jerry Hughes has been on fire through pre-season and he carried it on in the first game. He got two sacks and stripped the ball out on one knocking the Colts out of field position. He also got an interception returning it 14 yards and another tackle for a loss. Too bad the Texans didn't win and are a low profile team or a lot of people would be talking about his performance. IMO he was always a very good Bill and happy for him to close out his career so well and at home. OJ Howard was picked up by the Texans and he scored both of their TDs. One of his TDs there was a defensive mix up and he was effectively uncovered. There are a lot of Frank Reich fans here as am I but any talk about him being a great head coach wasn't evident last Sunday. I dont think the Colts were prepared for the game and Reich was outcoached by Lovie Smith. Our castoffs are making other teams better and any fear of the COLTS with Reich and Matt Ryan from a Bills standpoint was greatly alleviated. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Happy for Jerry. 11 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 I saw Jerry's highlights. TBH I completely forgot he signed with Houston... which makes sense because I think that's where he's from/lives. Someone over on the Bills subreddit was lamenting the loss of Howard and pointed out his two TDs and it's like... yay? Good for him, I hope he does well. He may have had a bit of luck in that the Colts obviously couldn't game-plan for him, ya know how sometimes when a backup QB comes in and lights it up because the D isn't prepared for that guy? Something like that. I was hoping he'd work out here but that Achilles injury has really affected him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Jerry Hughes and OJ Howard, neither was going to stick with the Bills this year so they ended up as Texans and turned into stars in their first regular game. Jerry Hughes has been on fire through pre-season and he carried it on in the first game. He got two sacks and stripped the ball out on one knocking the Colts out of field position. He also got an interception returning it 14 yards and another tackle for a loss. Too bad the Texans didn't win and are a low profile team or a lot of people would be talking about his performance. IMO he was always a very good Bill and happy for him to close out his career so well and at home. OJ Howard was picked up by the Texans and he scored both of their TDs. One of his TDs there was a defensive mix up and he was effectively uncovered. There are a lot of Frank Reich fans here as am I but any talk about him being a great head coach wasn't evident last Sunday. I dont think the Colts were prepared for the game and Reich was outcoached by Lovie Smith. Our castoffs are making other teams better and any fear of the COLTS with Reich and Matt Ryan from a Bills standpoint was greatly alleviated. Losing Jerry was bittersweet that was a situation of letting a player go a year early rather than a year late he has always been a dog for us Von is just better And we needed to let these young guys that we drafted blossom Will always root for Jerry Hughes as the player 8 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Colts need to clean house. Frank has to go... 1 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Colts need to clean house. Frank has to go... sarcasm I hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Jerry has been just missing getting home for a few years now. I’m happy for him for his great game. Wish he got home once against the chiefs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, StHustle said: sarcasm I hope Not after what I saw last Sunday and recall how all they had to do was beat the Jags last year to get in the playoffs and lost badly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Beane sending Jerry and Howard down to Houston to hand Indy a week 1 tie is 4D chess. Jerry looked good. Glad to see hes having some success down here in front of his home city crowd. 2 1 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 loved jerry but he's been a 1/2 late against Mahomes constantly and his pressures don't effect his play see end of KC game. Mills on the other hand is . .. . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 They still lost though. Hughes may have made a rare impact play but I'm confident he won't do much over the course of the rest of the year there unless it's just garbage time stuff against other teams backups when they are down 3+ scores. But the OJ Howard thing is a bit puzzling because he certainly did not look like a guy who has a lost a step which is what some speculating was the main reason the Bills moved on and ate his contract. They cut him because of the fascination with useless players like Sweeney who only really contribute on ST and still a big problem with this regime in terms of their overall roster building methodology. Bottom line I think not keeping Howard will prove to be a big mistake later. 2 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: loved jerry but he's been a 1/2 late against Mahomes constantly and his pressures don't effect his play see end of KC game. Mills on the other hand is . .. . . What by chance were the other DLmen doing against Mahomes? Nothing. Jerry was the only one creating pressure and non of his line mates were ever in position to take advantage of Jerry moving Mahomes off of his spot. He had countless pressures in his last game as a bill. His teammates were nowhere to be found 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: They still lost though. They tied 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Happy for Jerry and OJ. They will get playing time they would not get in Buffalo and have chances to make plays for a Texans team that is pretty light on talent, but plays scrappy. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said: They still lost though. Hughes may have made a rare impact play but I'm confident he won't do much over the course of the rest of the year there unless it's just garbage time stuff against other teams backups when they are down 3+ scores. But the OJ Howard thing is a bit puzzling because he certainly did not look like a guy who has a lost a step which is what some speculating was the main reason the Bills moved on and ate his contract. They cut him because of the fascination with useless players like Sweeney who only really contribute on ST and still a big problem with this regime in terms of their overall roster building methodology. Bottom line I think not keeping Howard will prove to be a big mistake later. They didn't lose. Hughes play wasn't in garbage time. 2 sacks, another tackle for a loss, a forced fumble and an interception, that is impressive by any measure. You werent on here before claiming they should keep Howard before they cut him. Lats see how much Howard does this year. Edited September 13, 2022 by RoyBatty is alive 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: They still lost though. Hughes may have made a rare impact play but I'm confident he won't do much over the course of the rest of the year there unless it's just garbage time stuff against other teams backups when they are down 3+ scores. But the OJ Howard thing is a bit puzzling because he certainly did not look like a guy who has a lost a step which is what some speculating was the main reason the Bills moved on and ate his contract. They cut him because of the fascination with useless players like Sweeney who only really contribute on ST and still a big problem with this regime in terms of their overall roster building methodology. Bottom line I think not keeping Howard will prove to be a big mistake later. 1. They tied. 2. What NFL offense is having their QB take 7 step drops in garbage time up 3 scores? Thats when you run the ball. 3. Howard caught 2 passes while wide open. He was literally uncovered. 4. OJ has lost a step, cannot stay healthy and will not be missed, 5. Bottom line, you know nothing about football. 5 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 I wish them success but they aren't Bills caliber players at this point in their careers. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Colts need to clean house. Frank has to go... I agree. Trade us JT immediately. The rest can stay Edited September 13, 2022 by ProcessYaDigg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: They still lost though. Hughes may have made a rare impact play but I'm confident he won't do much over the course of the rest of the year there unless it's just garbage time stuff against other teams backups when they are down 3+ scores. But the OJ Howard thing is a bit puzzling because he certainly did not look like a guy who has a lost a step which is what some speculating was the main reason the Bills moved on and ate his contract. They cut him because of the fascination with useless players like Sweeney who only really contribute on ST and still a big problem with this regime in terms of their overall roster building methodology. Bottom line I think not keeping Howard will prove to be a big mistake later. I’m confidant that you are as clueless as I originally thought. Took snaps in 8 playoff games. Has 7 sacks. But yeah…no 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 52 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Colts need to clean house. Frank has to go... I just never saw a big upgrade from Wentz to an aging Ryan. Maybe a little bit in terms of QB IQ, but that's about it. Frank has some work to do. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 33 minutes ago, NewEra said: What by chance were the other DLmen doing against Mahomes? Nothing. Jerry was the only one creating pressure and non of his line mates were ever in position to take advantage of Jerry moving Mahomes off of his spot. He had countless pressures in his last game as a bill. His teammates were nowhere to be found I guess Beane saw it my way. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: I wish them success but they aren't Bills caliber players at this point in their careers. I love living in a world where we can say things like this and it's totally 100% serious and everybody who watches football would agree. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Howard is better than Sweeney, let's be honest. I'm not surprised he played well. The problem was if Howard plays well on a 1 year prove it deal then he's going to want a big contract so he was always going to be a 1 year rental. Meanwhile maybe Sweeney isn't quite as good but he's going to be the budget option and he's good friends with Josh and Dawson so it might be better long term. Hughes might have 1 or 2 decent years left but he's not Von Miller, simple as that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: I guess Beane saw it my way. . . . Yeah, you’re way. 🤣 What I said is 💯 facts. None of the DE’s he kept over Jerry had any effect on Mahomes at all. Jerry is gone because he was a FA and wanted to get paid. If he would’ve taken the minimum like Shaq, he would still be a Bill and Shaq would be a FA. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, NewEra said: Yeah, you’re way. 🤣 What I said is 💯 facts. None of the DE’s he kept over Jerry had any effect on Mahomes at all. Jerry is gone because he was a FA and wanted to get paid. If he would’ve taken the minimum like Shaq, he would still be a Bill and Shaq would be a FA. Jerry Hughes was wildly better than Shaq Lawson. I hated to see Jerry go but 1) I sure cant blame him for his final pay day in his home town 2) Bills cant keep everyone they want Edited September 13, 2022 by RoyBatty is alive 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, ProcessYaDigg said: I agree. Trade us JT immediately. The rest can stay I'd take Darius Leonard as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, K-9 said: Happy for Jerry. Such an all-time great Buffalo Bill. Love this guy. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said: They still lost though. Hughes may have made a rare impact play but I'm confident he won't do much over the course of the rest of the year there unless it's just garbage time stuff against other teams backups when they are down 3+ scores. But the OJ Howard thing is a bit puzzling because he certainly did not look like a guy who has a lost a step which is what some speculating was the main reason the Bills moved on and ate his contract. They cut him because of the fascination with useless players like Sweeney who only really contribute on ST and still a big problem with this regime in terms of their overall roster building methodology. Bottom line I think not keeping Howard will prove to be a big mistake later. How is a tie a loss 🤦🏻♂️ Edited September 13, 2022 by Starr Almighty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Jerry Hughes was wildly better than Shaq Lawson. I hated to see Jerry go but 1) I sure cant blame him for his final day day in his home town 2) Bills cant keep everyone they want For sure. Making 5M instead of 1M is nice too. I figured his time was up as a Bill unless he would’ve taken the minimum. 4.5M gtd was too much to pass up. He would make us better….maybe we can pull off a trade for him if someone goes down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, H2o said: I'd take Shaquille Leonard as well FIFY. 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 I saw the game, they both did well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Howard really earning his money from the Bills by helping Houston tie Indy. 2 tds from a guy who is so washed up the Bills gave him over 3 million dollars and dumped him without playing a snap. I guess it's hard to crack a roster with Sweeney as #2. Hughes performance is no surprise, he has been top 10 generating pressure every year for years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Jerry was such a great get for that young Texans team. Definition of a leader of men with a relentless motor. He’s going to do great things there and good to see Casiero recognize that from when he was with New England 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Colts need to clean house. Frank has to go... They need to abandon this approach of recycling old has been QBs in the hopes of winning now. Theys should trade Taylor to the Bills for a third to build up their draft capital🧐 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Frank is hamstrung by an organization that is not worthy of him. The Colts need to do a much better job of personnel evaluation. If Frank had a real QB, he'd have the Colts on the winning edge. Matty Ice is on the downslope, and they got no one warming up in the wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 55 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Howard is better than Sweeney, let's be honest. I'm not surprised he played well. The problem was if Howard plays well on a 1 year prove it deal then he's going to want a big contract so he was always going to be a 1 year rental. Meanwhile maybe Sweeney isn't quite as good but he's going to be the budget option and he's good friends with Josh and Dawson so it might be better long term. Hughes might have 1 or 2 decent years left but he's not Von Miller, simple as that Wait, so the Bills paid him over 3 million and then dumped him because they were worried he would play well and then leave after this season? 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Yeah, you’re way. 🤣 What I said is 💯 facts. None of the DE’s he kept over Jerry had any effect on Mahomes at all. Jerry is gone because he was a FA and wanted to get paid. If he would’ve taken the minimum like Shaq, he would still be a Bill and Shaq would be a FA. I'm a Jerry fan. I agree he would have been signed for Vet minimum. And he would be sitting as a healthy scratch next to Shaq. He is just a step slow these days against the good QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: I'm a Jerry fan. I agree he would have been signed for Vet minimum. And he would be sitting as a healthy scratch next to Shaq. He is just a step slow these days against the good QBs. His step may be slower than in his prime but it’s still better than most. I watched every Texan defensive snap this morning- he had a helluva game Vs a great OL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: His step may be slower than in his prime but it’s still better than most. I watched every Texan defensive snap this morning- he had a helluva game Vs a great OL That is how he was in pre-season, he was a force, often he was unlockable one on one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: They still lost though. Hughes may have made a rare impact play but I'm confident he won't do much over the course of the rest of the year there unless it's just garbage time stuff against other teams backups when they are down 3+ scores. But the OJ Howard thing is a bit puzzling because he certainly did not look like a guy who has a lost a step which is what some speculating was the main reason the Bills moved on and ate his contract. They cut him because of the fascination with useless players like Sweeney who only really contribute on ST and still a big problem with this regime in terms of their overall roster building methodology. Bottom line I think not keeping Howard will prove to be a big mistake later. Of course you had to come in and totally ruin the party... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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