Who are most misleading teams after week 1

[Orlando Tim]

Most of us know that week one can be the most ridiculous week for making prognostications so I am curious who we think is destined to be great but sucked along with sucks but showed up this week. 

 

I have two each way: GB and Colts get it together and make playoffs. Both had a new QB/WR combo and I think both get worked out.

I also think that Cincinnati is in for world of hurt this year along with the 49ers, who I know lost, but the announcers are acting like it is a forgone conclusion that they will turn it around. Cincy is not sneaking up on anyone and that line might not have improved. Trey Lance yesterday reminded my of Josh is first 5 games. 

[CNYfan]

Week One is a liar.

But Cinci was inconsistent last year as well. 

I think that the Titans will be good, the Giants will be bad, Atlanta won't be that competitive and the Colts will be good.  

[mykidsdad]

Miami is terrible and the Bengals are good.

[Big Turk]

7 minutes ago, CNYfan said:

Week One is a liar.

But Cinci was inconsistent last year as well. 

I think that the Titans will be good, the Giants will be bad, Atlanta won't be that competitive and the Colts will be good.  

 

I'm the opposite...every year there are teams that made the playoffs the previous year that will miss this year...I feel Titans and NE are those teams in the AFC.  

[Logic]

Teams who aren't as good as their week one performance might indicate:

- Miami Dolphins
- Washington Commanders

- Pittsburgh Steelers

- Minnesota Vikings

 

Teams who are better than their week one performance might indicate:

- Green Bay Packers

- Arizona Cardinals

Teams who are as bad as they looked:

- New England Patriots (stink-o-rama)
- New York Jets (gonna be a loooong year)
- Dallas Cowboys (woof)

 

Teams who are as good as they looked:

- Kansas City Chiefs

- Buffalo Bills

- Baltimore Ravens

[GunnerBill]

Cincy will miss the playoffs. Tennessee will too. Green Bay would if they were in the AFC but might sneak in because the NFC sucks.

Just now, Logic said:

Teams who aren't as good as their week one performance might indicate:

- Miami Dolphins
- Washington Commanders

- Pittsburgh Steelers

- Minnesota Vikings

 

Teams who are better than their week one performance might indicate:

- Green Bay Packers

- Arizona Cardinals

Teams who are as bad as they looked:

- New England Patriots (stink-o-rama)
- New York Jets (gonna be a loooong year)
- Dallas Cowboys (woof)

 

Teams who are as good as they looked:

- Kansas City Chiefs

- Buffalo Bills

- Baltimore Ravens

 

Vikings should be in your final group. They are not as good as the Bills or Chiefs but they are as good as they looked Sunday. One of the best teams in the weaker conference.

[Logic]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Vikings should be in your final group. They are not as good as the Bills or Chiefs but they are as good as they looked Sunday. One of the best teams in the weaker conference.

I agree that the Vikings are good. I just don't think they're the dominant buzzsaw that they looked like in week one. The Packers turned in a typically putrid week one performance, so it's hard to judge how good the Vikings actually are.

Perhaps I should have added a "more information needed" column.

[Warcodered]

That breakdown by Kurt Warner made me think the Rams are better than they looked on Thursday at least defensively.

[julian]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Cincy will miss the playoffs. Tennessee will too. Green Bay would if they were in the AFC but might sneak in because the NFC sucks.

 

Vikings should be in your final group. They are not as good as the Bills or Chiefs but they are as good as they looked Sunday. One of the best teams in the weaker conference.

I’m with you on the Bengals, I’ve been saying since he entered the league that Burrow seems to get a complete pass on all these sacks he takes.

 

 His pocket awareness is horrible and the Bengals will need to field a top 5 pass blocking oline throughout Burrows career to get the most out of his play. 

[BuffaloBill]

17 minutes ago, CNYfan said:

Week One is a liar.

 

 

This is so true as it takes about 4-6 weeks in to see who really has what.  On any given week any team out there can lay an egg.

 

With that said I expect the Bills to come out and play a very good game against TN.  The Bills win (yes, I am being a homer) will put the Titans in a pretty deep hole to start the season.

 

I am excited to see How the Bills D lines up against TN.  I expect good things.

[Warcodered]

I want to see the Chiefs go against a better defense the Cardinals did what you're specifically not supposed to do against Mahomes.

[nucci]

15 minutes ago, Logic said:

Teams who aren't as good as their week one performance might indicate:

- Miami Dolphins
- Washington Commanders

- Pittsburgh Steelers

- Minnesota Vikings

 

Teams who are better than their week one performance might indicate:

- Green Bay Packers

- Arizona Cardinals

Teams who are as bad as they looked:

- New England Patriots (stink-o-rama)
- New York Jets (gonna be a loooong year)
- Dallas Cowboys (woof)

 

Teams who are as good as they looked:

- Kansas City Chiefs

- Buffalo Bills

- Baltimore Ravens

Vikings are good, Packers and Cardinals are not..otherwise good list

[Rico]

8 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I want to see the Chiefs go against a better defense the Cardinals did what you're specifically not supposed to do against Mahomes.

Yes, Chiefs by far. Let’s see what they do against the Chargers on Thursday.

[Logic]

Just now, nucci said:

Vikings are good, Packers and Cardinals are not..otherwise good list

Thanks.

The Packers lost 38-3 to the Saints last year on opening day. They wound up 13-4.

I don't think this year's Packers team is necessarily going 13-4, but I expect them to be much better than they looked in week 1, just like they were last season.

As for the Vikings, well....see what I just said about the Packers. Hard to judge how good the Vikes really are, given how bad the Pack looked.

The Cardinals...you're probably right about the Cardinals. I may just be ranking them based on last year's reputation. This may be the last year for Kliff Kingsbury if things don't go well.

[patzen]

For me it's the Packers. Early season struggles always should have been expected for them offensively with the loss of Adams, with how green the rest of their receiving corps is, and with David Bakhtiari and Elgton Jenkins still hurt. Their defense had a bad first half but they have a ton of talent and looked much better in the second half. They'll be fine.

[Mr. WEO]

19 minutes ago, Logic said:

Teams who aren't as good as their week one performance might indicate:

- Miami Dolphins
- Washington Commanders

- Pittsburgh Steelers

- Minnesota Vikings

 

Teams who are better than their week one performance might indicate:

- Green Bay Packers

- Arizona Cardinals

Teams who are as bad as they looked:

- New England Patriots (stink-o-rama)
- New York Jets (gonna be a loooong year)
- Dallas Cowboys (woof)

 

Teams who are as good as they looked:

- Kansas City Chiefs

- Buffalo Bills

- Baltimore Ravens

 

Good stuff.  Steelers are doomed with Trubisky.  Cardinals may be that bad. 

 

Vikings (see below) could win the division.

 

19 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Cincy will miss the playoffs. Tennessee will too. Green Bay would if they were in the AFC but might sneak in because the NFC sucks.

 

Vikings should be in your final group. They are not as good as the Bills or Chiefs but they are as good as they looked Sunday. One of the best teams in the weaker conference.

 

[Big Blitz]

Observations:

 

The Bengals will be good - anyone here care to comment on how long you felt like ***t after having your appendix taken out?

 

The Jets D is going to be a problem and Sauce is going to be one of the best CBs in the league by the end of the season.  

 

 

 

Misleading:

 

The Chiefs and Mahomes.

 

Whoa whoa whoa.  Of course Mahomes is great.  But this isn't going to last - that O won't do that again.   

 

First off.....Will Kingsbury make it to the premiere of Hard Knocks mid season?  That team quit on him and Murray in January.  And I'm still not buying the Chiefs are better without Hill.  You kidding me?  That game was more about the colossal waste of money on Murray then the greatness of Mahomes.   

 

 

The Chargers are going to wreck KC on Thursday.

Edited September 12, 2022 by Big Blitz

[FilthyBeast]

For the bills sake I truly hope the Rams aren't a dud this year and a 7 win type of team or we might be looking at a far different reality for this team a few months from now.

 

Other thoughts - for reasons relevant to the bills I hope the Cardinals are as bad as they looked or you might as well get ready for the Chiefs to be hoisting another SB trophy in Feb. 

 

Titans/Giants - happy for Daboll but still not sure they are going to be that good this year, also think titans will be fine and head to Buffalo ready to prove something.

 

Bengals showed what happens when a good team turns the ball over consistently and their game was eerily similar to Bills opener last year against the same team, but think they'll be fine in long run. Steelers are going to be in big trouble going forward without Watt.

 

I'm not a Trey Lance fan and 49ers are in a for a long season if they don't go back to Jimmy G sooner than later, chicago could surprise though despite a lot of folks thinking they'd be competing with Lions for last place in NFCN.

 

Raiders are going to be good despite losing to chargers and I wouldn't be surprised if every team in the AFCW wins their home matchups against eachother this year because that's how good every team there is.

 

 

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

For the bills sake I truly hope the Rams aren't a dud this year and a 7 win type of team or we might be looking at a far different reality for this team a few months from now.

We'd didn't struggle against them so why would that effect us?

[FilthyBeast]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

We'd didn't struggle against them so why would that effect us?

 

We turned the ball over way too much and it was anybody's game at halftime.

 

My point is if the Rams are a crap team this year the Bills might not be as good and already way too overconfident.

 

And for the love of god someone really needs to tell McD that Zack Moss is not a good football player and to stop wasting carries on this waste of space. Same thing with Mckenzie to a certain degree.

[Big Blitz]

2 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

For the bills sake I truly hope the Rams aren't a dud this year and a 7 win type of team or we might be looking at a far different reality for this team a few months from now.

 

 

 

 

I feel fantastic about the O because the Rams defense is still elite.  Maybe not as good without Miller but it added a HOF MLB and if not for self inflicted mistakes we score 40.  

 

Our Defense looks nasty - but that Rams oline could be one of the worst in the league.  I'm Thrilled don't get me wrong and not downplaying what we did at all.  And I love that we looked physically dominant on both sides. 

 

I'll just feel better after watching it wreck another team with a good oline/QB combo - especially while Tre is out.

 

Or - not let Henry go off and make Tanny look like Mahomes.  

[947]

I think the Packers might actually be done. They won't be near as bad as they looked yesterday without both OTs & their WR1, but they could be a .500 team. Rodgers body language & attitude was bad, I think he either retires after the season or forces a trade.

 

The 49ers are in trouble if they stick with Lance. I don't see him ever becoming what they thought he could be.

Edited September 12, 2022 by 947

[billsfan89]

52 minutes ago, CNYfan said:

Week One is a liar.

But Cinci was inconsistent last year as well. 

I think that the Titans will be good, the Giants will be bad, Atlanta won't be that competitive and the Colts will be good.  

I think Atlanta will have a lot of “moral victories” this season. Their Oline is competent and Drake, Pitts and Patterson are a good set of weapons and Mariota will add value with his legs. 
 

But while their offense may be able to put up points their defense is going to let them down a lot but I can see them losing a lot of one possession games because their offense can score.

[Billsatlastin2018]

Miami finishes #2 in the AFC-E and the Bengals are good.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

31 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I want to see the Chiefs go against a better defense the Cardinals did what you're specifically not supposed to do against Mahomes.

AZ was bad. 
but hey

 

they did get the Mighty Kermit to punt twice 

[jethro_tull]

1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

For the bills sake I truly hope the Rams aren't a dud this year and a 7 win type of team or we might be looking at a far different reality for this team a few months from now.

 

Other thoughts - for reasons relevant to the bills I hope the Cardinals are as bad as they looked or you might as well get ready for the Chiefs to be hoisting another SB trophy in Feb. 

 

Titans/Giants - happy for Daboll but still not sure they are going to be that good this year, also think titans will be fine and head to Buffalo ready to prove something.

 

Bengals showed what happens when a good team turns the ball over consistently and their game was eerily similar to Bills opener last year against the same team, but think they'll be fine in long run. Steelers are going to be in big trouble going forward without Watt.

 

I'm not a Trey Lance fan and 49ers are in a for a long season if they don't go back to Jimmy G sooner than later, chicago could surprise though despite a lot of folks thinking they'd be competing with Lions for last place in NFCN.

 

Raiders are going to be good despite losing to chargers and I wouldn't be surprised if every team in the AFCW wins their home matchups against eachother this year because that's how good every team there is.

 

 

I watched that Bears / 9ers game and Trey Lance was horrid even in the rain.  He looked lost and the 43% completion percentage and 50 QBR are quite telling.  It is the age old story of developing a young QB vs tanking the season.  I would not be happy as a 49'ers fan.  

[eball]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

Cincy will miss the playoffs. Tennessee will too. Green Bay would if they were in the AFC but might sneak in because the NFC sucks.

 

Vikings should be in your final group. They are not as good as the Bills or Chiefs but they are as good as they looked Sunday. One of the best teams in the weaker conference.

 

Yeah, I was gonna come in here to say that Cinci is in trouble.  All of that OL retooling and Burrow was still under constant duress.  They’ll win 9-10 games but that may not be enough.  Brutal loss for them yesterday.

 

Also agree that the Vikings have a “fresh” feel about them…have to get over seeing sourpuss Zimmer on the sideline and realize they have a coach who will make good use of those offensive weapons.

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

8 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Yeah, I was gonna come in here to say that Cinci is in trouble.  All of that OL retooling and Burrow was still under constant duress.  They’ll win 9-10 games but that may not be enough.  Brutal loss for them yesterday.

 

Also agree that the Vikings have a “fresh” feel about them…have to get over seeing sourpuss Zimmer on the sideline and realize they have a coach who will make good use of those offensive weapons.

 

No Duck and no hobbled Ben. 
Mitch s/b better than those two 
 

They won’t get 2 easy wins. 
 

[FilthyBeast]

39 minutes ago, jethro_tull said:

I watched that Bears / 9ers game and Trey Lance was horrid even in the rain.  He looked lost and the 43% completion percentage and 50 QBR are quite telling.  It is the age old story of developing a young QB vs tanking the season.  I would not be happy as a 49'ers fan.  

 

Agree, and the dilemma the 49ers have now is basically 2 options:

 

1) Stick with Lance and crash and burn with him or hope he improves as the season goes on and contend with him, if the former happens jobs will likely be lost since the 49ers are a team built to win now.

 

2) Pull the plug very soon if he don't improve and go back to Jimmy G for rest of year. If that happens you really can't go back to Lance (barring another injury to jimmy g) and you essentially throw in the towel.

 

My guess is that they will stay the course but he's going to have to improve dramatically to even be serviceable which is the claim that's all Jimmy G is/was.

[Buddo]

1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

We turned the ball over way too much and it was anybody's game at halftime.

 

My point is if the Rams are a crap team this year the Bills might not be as good and already way too overconfident.

 

And for the love of god someone really needs to tell McD that Zack Moss is not a good football player and to stop wasting carries on this waste of space. Same thing with Mckenzie to a certain degree.

 

Well, defensively, the Rams actually played a lot better than it seems.

 

Watch Warner's breakdown of all of Allen's 3rd down attempts.

 

He points out that on many of them, the coverages are pretty good, it's simply that the Allen/Diggs/Davis combos, are working really well, to the extent that peephole windows, are being made to look like bay windows.

 

The Rams bigger problems were on offense. Stafford pretty much ignored Robinon for most of the game They need to get that sorted out fast. If they do, they wll be back as a tough out.

 

Offensively, both the 'Fins and Cheats, looked poor to bad.

 

As someone said upthread, the 'Fins will probably finish 2nd in the AFCE, but I honestly doubt they so much as sniff the playoffs. They won as much due to Jones ineptitude, as anything they did tbh.

 

Tua simply didn't make as many mistakes. He also might not have made a pass through the air, that travelled more than about 15 yards. Anything that shows up on the scoresheet as a larger completion than that, is down to Waddle or Hill making people miss, and getting YAC.

[Big Turk]

2 hours ago, 947 said:

I think the Packers might actually be done. They won't be near as bad as they looked yesterday without both OTs & their WR1, but they could be a .500 team. Rodgers body language & attitude was bad, I think he either retires after the season or forces a trade.

 

The 49ers are in trouble if they stick with Lance. I don't see him ever becoming what they thought he could be.

 

Look back a few years ago when Rodgers had his top WRs hurt...he was terrible...I think they might be a 8-8 or 9-7 team that leans on their D

Edited September 12, 2022 by Big Turk

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

We turned the ball over way too much and it was anybody's game at halftime.

 

My point is if the Rams are a crap team this year the Bills might not be as good and already way too overconfident.

 

And for the love of god someone really needs to tell McD that Zack Moss is not a good football player and to stop wasting carries on this waste of space. Same thing with Mckenzie to a certain degree.

 

The Bills were good the last two years.  Why would that change now?  What makes them good are players that are still here and they added.

 

Unfortunately I actually agree with you on one thing... stop wasting downs on Moss.

[PrimeTime101]

3 hours ago, nucci said:

Vikings are good, Packers and Cardinals are not..otherwise good list

I agree with this message 1000%

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 hours ago, Warcodered said:

I want to see the Chiefs go against a better defense the Cardinals did what you're specifically not supposed to do against Mahomes.

And they did it poorly on top of that lol 

[YattaOkasan]

2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

I feel fantastic about the O because the Rams defense is still elite.  Maybe not as good without Miller but it added a HOF MLB and if not for self inflicted mistakes we score 40.  

 

Our Defense looks nasty - but that Rams oline could be one of the worst in the league.  I'm Thrilled don't get me wrong and not downplaying what we did at all.  And I love that we looked physically dominant on both sides. 

 

I'll just feel better after watching it wreck another team with a good oline/QB combo - especially while Tre is out.

 

Or - not let Henry go off and make Tanny look like Mahomes.  

Re: Our Defense. The Fins and Pats showed weakness along OL this weekend so that makes me feel good in division. 

[ALLEN1QB]

3 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

Most of us know that week one can be the most ridiculous week for making prognostications so I am curious who we think is destined to be great but sucked along with sucks but showed up this week. 

 

I have two each way: GB and Colts get it together and make playoffs. Both had a new QB/WR combo and I think both get worked out.

I also think that Cincinnati is in for world of hurt this year along with the 49ers, who I know lost, but the announcers are acting like it is a forgone conclusion that they will turn it around. Cincy is not sneaking up on anyone and that line might not have improved. Trey Lance yesterday reminded my of Josh is first 5 games. 

Trey Lance will never be close to Josh. 

[Talley56]

Been saying all off season that I don't believe the Bengals were a fluke last year.  Give them a respectable oline that can give Burrow time (not get him sacked 9 times in a game) and I think they are one of the best teams in the league.  Yesterday's result doesn't change my mind about that.  Remember what that Steelers defense did to us in week 1 last year and then look how we turned out.  Also, the Bengals defense was impressive in the playoffs (they got the stops on Mahomes in the CG that we couldn't one week earlier).  If the oline is improved, I think the Bengals could be a great team this year.

[boater]

28 minutes ago, Talley56 said:

Been saying all off season that I don't believe the Bengals were a fluke last year.  Give them a respectable oline that can give Burrow time (not get him sacked 9 times in a game) and I think they are one of the best teams in the league.  Yesterday's result doesn't change my mind about that.  Remember what that Steelers defense did to us in week 1 last year and then look how we turned out.  Also, the Bengals defense was impressive in the playoffs (they got the stops on Mahomes in the CG that we couldn't one week earlier).  If the oline is improved, I think the Bengals could be a great team this year.

Is that you, Zac Taylor?

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

I think it is too early to write off the Bengals. Yes, Burrow much like Russell Wilson is probably to blame for a good amount of the sacks he takes. However, that Bengals defense still played at a high level. They only actually gave up 16 points and that is with their QB giving the ball away FIVE times and being sacked seven times. Yes, the Steelers is O is not not above average and maybe not even average but still that's a pretty good performance given the bad situations they were routinely put in.

[EffKCChiefs]

4 hours ago, Rico said:

Yes, Chiefs by far. Let’s see what they do against the Chargers on Thursday.

Go Chargers