Toledo Bill Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Curious how people feel about our coach taking timeouts on the last Rams drive when the game was in hand. I know they have a propensity to take defensive timeouts but seemed a weird time to be doing so. I won’t lose any sleep over it but it could be construed as “rubbing it in”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 I really don’t care 10 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said: Curious how people feel about our coach taking timeouts on the last Rams drive when the game was in hand. I know they have a propensity to take defensive timeouts but seemed a weird time to be doing so. I won’t lose any sleep over it but it could be construed as “rubbing it in”. Pretty sure the clock was stopped on both. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said: Curious how people feel about our coach taking timeouts on the last Rams drive when the game was in hand. I know they have a propensity to take defensive timeouts but seemed a weird time to be doing so. I won’t lose any sleep over it but it could be construed as “rubbing it in”. It seemed like the defense was a little gassed. But I see no issue with playing to the whistle, if those guys on the other team are out trying to score. That said, the “McD special” of taking a defensive timeout always seems to backfire— the other offense always seems to convert or make a play after the timeout! 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Could be simply to give the players a rest. More prone to injuries when fatigued. 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 It’s something McD does during games why would he change it up. Live practice for situations in the future let’s say they needed a drive to tie why not practice these scenarios 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Didn't want to give up a garbage time score. I respect that. He had the defenses back. They wanted to keep the Rams to 10 points. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boco357 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 I believe he is fanatical about preparation in certain spots of the game and this was just practice for that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle and freddy Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 It was to get the backups in for a couple plays … they showed McD on sidelines making it happen 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said: Curious how people feel about our coach taking timeouts on the last Rams drive when the game was in hand. I know they have a propensity to take defensive timeouts but seemed a weird time to be doing so. I won’t lose any sleep over it but it could be construed as “rubbing it in”. He substituted our back 7, no need to risk injury to any of our starters in that situation. Smart coaching 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gflande1 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 I usually take those as the coaching staff seeing something the O is doing that their D isn’t ready for. Mismatch, etc… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 You coach every play if you want to win championships 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 33 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said: Curious how people feel about our coach taking timeouts on the last Rams drive when the game was in hand. I know they have a propensity to take defensive timeouts but seemed a weird time to be doing so. I won’t lose any sleep over it but it could be construed as “rubbing it in”. They were running the clock out and buffalo was content to let them hand it off. Then they switched to no huddle passing. I'd call timeout too, get the right personnel in to match. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, boco357 said: I believe he is fanatical about preparation in certain spots of the game and this was just practice for that Yep. Why stop coaching? The whole message is give 100% 100% of the time - always improve. Can't understand why anyone would get bothered about calling TOs for teachable/coachable moments in live game action - against a team at the time that was trying to score Edited September 9, 2022 by stevewin 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Their offense has zero need for the timeouts, so may as well get a preview of what the opposition has planned by seeing how they line up. Then, the Bills can adjust their defensive call or force the other team to go with plan B. the game was already in hand, but they still have their pride and didn’t want the Rams to score. It worked. Bills got the ball back. Victory formation. 21 points differential. unlikely that it could happen, but that can be a tie-breaker come playoff time. (As if…..) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 I’m actually fine with it, he played to win and put his team in position to succeed. The Rams were still playing to score, screw it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 42 minutes ago, folz said: Didn't want to give up a garbage time score. I respect that. He had the defenses back. They wanted to keep the Rams to 10 points. Exactly. We dominated. No need to give up garbage time scores, especially to Cooper Kupp. Seeing how bummed Sean McVay was at the end of the game was wonderful. Just an awesome performance to start what will be an awesome season!! Go Bills!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 54 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said: Curious how people feel about our coach taking timeouts on the last Rams drive when the game was in hand. I know they have a propensity to take defensive timeouts but seemed a weird time to be doing so. I won’t lose any sleep over it but it could be construed as “rubbing it in”. If Mcvay is keeping his starters in to pad Kupps and Staffords stats I have no problem getting the defense set. These are valuable live reps in the first game of the season and we have rookie corners who need every rep possible. So Mcvay either wanted them to have more live reps or he’s trying to pad stats for them. Mcvay did this last year in his big losses, I only know cause of fantasy but Kupp murdered garbage time when they were up big or blown out. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 51 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: It seemed like the defense was a little gassed. But I see no issue with playing to the whistle, if those guys on the other team are out trying to score. That said, the “McD special” of taking a defensive timeout always seems to backfire— the other offense always seems to convert or make a play after the timeout! oh come on---when has that ever happened?? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Toledo Bill said: Curious how people feel about our coach taking timeouts on the last Rams drive when the game was in hand. I know they have a propensity to take defensive timeouts but seemed a weird time to be doing so. I won’t lose any sleep over it but it could be construed as “rubbing it in”. They weren't allowing the Rams to score or get any kind of momentum from it. We aren't here to be "nice", we are here to kick your ass, shove you down to the ground and make you stick your tongue out and lick the dog poop. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 If I remember right McVay had the starters in, went up tempo but not 2 min as they were not going for the sideline, and also went for it on 4th down. I'm thinking McD understood then that they were both treating it as basically a chance to practice and try a few things. Felt like they were on the same page and mutual respect and not a D move, just let it all play out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) Many reasons those timeouts were a good idea: 1) Prevent a last score by Rams' starters (being competitive, playing for pride, practicing situational football) 2) Prevent injuries or illness - it was very hot and humid, so let guys get properly hydrated to avoid cramps or pulls 3) Get backups into the game - prevents injuries to starters AND gets younger guys reps 4) Give those of us Bills fans in the stadium to fully enjoy a few more minutes of the sweet taste of victory. It was such a great win for the franchise. None of the Bills fans were running for the exits. I think we all just wanted to enjoy the moment and soak it all in. (Plus, the cost-per-minute of the ticket went down with each extra minute in the stadium). This obviously shouldn't be a factor in McDermott's decision, but it was a nice side benefit. Edited September 9, 2022 by msw2112 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Because they are playing to win every down. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 The Rams were flipping between running the clock out and actively going hurry-up to try and score. I have no problems with McD using timeouts there. The issue I had with timeouts was not using them at the end of the first half. McD should've used them and forced the Rams to decide if they wanted to risk missing a very long FG with enough time on the clock for the Bills to run a play or two and kick a FG of their own. Letting the clock tick down to 4 seconds was a tactical mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: The Rams were flipping between running the clock out and actively going hurry-up to try and score. I have no problems with McD using timeouts there. The issue I had with timeouts was not using them at the end of the first half. McD should've used them and forced the Rams to decide if they wanted to risk missing a very long FG with enough time on the clock for the Bills to run a play or two and kick a FG of their own. Letting the clock tick down to 4 seconds was a tactical mistake. I (respectfully) disagree on this one. The Rams should have immediately taken a TO after the previous play to give themselves time to decide what they wanted to do. If they had, they could have attempted another play to get closer, then used another TO for the FG attempt. By letting the clock run down, they only had time for one play and HAD TO try a long FG (or a Hail Mary). It worked out for them, as their kicker made a great kick, but they could have managed it much better. If the BILLS had taken the TO, they would have done the Rams a favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: It seemed like the defense was a little gassed. But I see no issue with playing to the whistle, if those guys on the other team are out trying to score. That said, the “McD special” of taking a defensive timeout always seems to backfire— the other offense always seems to convert or make a play after the timeout! I don't recall it backfiring. It gives Frasier a chance to see the offensive set and make adjustments if desired. Whether it works or not is hard to say but if there are unused TO's at the end of a half (particularly the first half), why not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: If Mcvay is keeping his starters in to pad Kupps and Staffords stats I have no problem getting the defense set. These are valuable live reps in the first game of the season and we have rookie corners who need every rep possible. So Mcvay either wanted them to have more live reps or he’s trying to pad stats for them. Mcvay did this last year in his big losses, I only know cause of fantasy but Kupp murdered garbage time when they were up big or blown out. Pretty sure after one of the timeouts they pulled poyer, hyde, edmunds, milano, and Johnson... so that to me is a good reason to use a timeout. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticketssince61 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 What I found perplexing is that end of the first half with one TO remg. the rams let the clock run down to 4 seconds before kicking the field goal 56 yd FG They could have run one more play to get 5 or 10 yards to make it an easier kick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Just now, ticketssince61 said: What I found perplexing is that end of the first half with one TO remg. the rams let the clock run down to 4 seconds before kicking the field goal 56 yd FG They could have run one more play to get 5 or 10 yards to make it an easier kick They could of also taken a loss and not been able to attempt it. Buffalo was blowing through their line almost every play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Simple. Humiliation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoros Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: I don't recall it backfiring. It gives Frasier a chance to see the offensive set and make adjustments if desired. Whether it works or not is hard to say but if there are unused TO's at the end of a half (particularly the first half), why not? I too like the strategy, but remember, “13 seconds”, we took timeouts before each of those plays 🤦♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 The game was won and clearly the Rams already submitted, except for maybe Kupp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreezeMafia Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Toledo Bill said: Curious how people feel about our coach taking timeouts on the last Rams drive when the game was in hand. I know they have a propensity to take defensive timeouts but seemed a weird time to be doing so. I won’t lose any sleep over it but it could be construed as “rubbing it in”. Don't care. McDermott setting the tone, putting entire league on notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticketssince61 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 49 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: They could of also taken a loss and not been able to attempt it. Buffalo was blowing through their line almost every play. Rams could have done a quick out or a running play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 I’m assuming to give the guys a breather and maybe get some other guys in for a few reps 🤷🏻♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 hours ago, folz said: Didn't want to give up a garbage time score. I respect that. He had the defenses back. They wanted to keep the Rams to 10 points. And zilch for 2nd Half! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Fleezoid said: Could be simply to give the players a rest. More prone to injuries when fatigued. Definitely to make substitutions. It was extremely hot last night in LA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyK Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 My timeout issue was the end of the first half. The Bills should have called a timeout and not allowed the clock to run down from around 16 seconds to 2. The Rams most likely would have punted the ball, but the 2 seconds allowed to attempt a long field goal and tie the game. Go Bills!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 On 9/9/2022 at 2:19 PM, ticketssince61 said: What I found perplexing is that end of the first half with one TO remg. the rams let the clock run down to 4 seconds before kicking the field goal 56 yd FG They could have run one more play to get 5 or 10 yards to make it an easier kick or take a 10 yard sack. They were under some duress. My guess is he wanted to get off the field and talk about reversing the shellacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 I don’t Blame McDermott, if they can lose a 1 score and in 13 seconds then 2-3 minutes is plenty of time for 3 touchdowns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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