Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Has anything specific been released on her condition? Seems wrong to speculate if not. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Has anything specific been released on her condition? Seems wrong to speculate if not. No... just the original release. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Just now, Mike in Horseheads said: No... just the original release. Thanks, jefe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Sounds like no one knows what wrong with Kim. Of course thoughts and prayers, but I’d like to know at least she’s going to be ok. I’m not being petty as I don’t care about gossip. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 On 6/15/2022 at 10:36 AM, PirateHookerMD said: Would anticipate either trauma/injury, infection, heart attack or stroke for a sudden unexpected ICU admission in otherwise healthy person. Hope she does well! ICU care can occur when… 1. post surgery 24/7 observation 2. other conditions that require 24/7 observation because of potential medical risks 3. post infection observation 4. Covid and other diseases that might require immediate care hospital staffing is tied to ICU. Certain departments have a staff member 24/7 where their first responsibility is to an ICU call. ive been in the ICU 3 times as an adult. One post surgery fir 24 hrs and the other two times for a perforated lung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 It probably isn’t right for us to speculate. It could be so many different things. Hopefully she’s progressing well, no matter what it is. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 22 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Sounds like no one knows what wrong with Kim. Of course thoughts and prayers, but I’d like to know at least she’s going to be ok. I’m not being petty as I don’t care about gossip. Yea it would be nice to get an update on how she's doing. Obviously if she's in the icu it's fairly serious and we will just have to wait till they feel it's the right time to give us an update. I don't care for speculation as well I'm fully capable of thinking about possible issues but I will just keep checking for any updates they post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 4:46 AM, Buffalo Barbarian said: I take kidney cleanser from Global Healing, and lowered my BP 70 points over 6 months and then brought it down to almost normal with meds . https://globalhealing.com/collections/detox @Bob Chandler's Hands @PirateHookerMD You guys questioning that i brought down my BP with kidney cleanser ?? I dont recall you being there during my medicals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 12:06 AM, Einstein said: That is not even remotely true. Besides, i’m not talking about “liking” someone. I’m talking the nonsense like “she’s part of our family” and “I love her”. Uh, that’s weird. vast majority of fans like their owners. You mainly only hear negative stuff from the vocal minority. even go to a Washington game when Snyder was being a dumb ass most fans say they love him. Not all fans pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, cba fan said: vast majority of fans like their owners. You mainly only hear negative stuff from the vocal minority. even go to a Washington game when Snyder was being a dumb ass most fans say they love him. Not all fans pay attention. I'm with Einstein on this one. It's weird. Parasocial relationships are one-sided relationships, where one person extends emotional energy, interest and time, and the other party, the persona, is completely unaware of the other's existence. Parasocial relationships are most common with celebrities, organizations (such as sports teams) or television stars. 7 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Fact there has been zero update or tweet from Kim is concerning. Hopefully she’s ok! 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huh? What? Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 While reading the posts, there has a been healthy respect for privacy and also some speculation based poster's experiences. I'll add my 2 cents... which has nothing to do with Kim Pegula's situation, because I don't know what she may be suffering from. I think that maybe what I have gone through, may cause one to consider that maybe he/she may see a doctor. My PCP 4 years ago scheduled me for a colonoscopy given I was in my 50's... I was asked before the procedure if cancer was prevalent in my family. I replied "No, we're a heart attack/stroke family. Everything went fine with colonoscopy, but the doctor recommended I see a cardiologist given my statement and age. Saw the cardiologist... told her I had heart murmur and faulty t-wave (since birth). She performed a checkup and an EKG which detected a problem. What happened next was I had bilateral occlusion and stenosis of the left carotid arteries. I had to have an exploratory brain surgery to check for tumors and aneurysms. The 2nd surgery placed a stent in my external carotid artery but the internal is inoperable. I suffered nerve damage to larynx on the 2nd procedure which paralyzed a vocal cord, so I have difficulty talking. The lesson that maybe someone would take from this? I see a doctor, whether I like her scheduling me for procedures because of my age and cringe at... I go through them... I before my surgeries suffered terrible onset headaches on the left side of my head, they went away quickly and I paid no attention to them, they were TIA's (mini strokes)... I had ringing in my left ear, assumed it was concerts and work related. I have neither now... I'm here now because a doctor who I see set the ball rolling that may have saved my life... If you know someone adverse to seeing a doctor, explain to the person that visit may keep you around... 3 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 13 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: @Bob Chandler's Hands @PirateHookerMD You guys questioning that i brought down my BP with kidney cleanser ?? I dont recall you being there during my medicals. Common man, is this the place for a pissing contest? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 1:32 PM, Chas56 said: Let me clarify this because it obviously struck a nerve. We are called the Bills Mafia, not my chosen term but so be it. When I see a guy with a Bills hat on, I say something like, "Go Bills". When I drive by a house with a Bills flag, I feel a connection. I don't know the guy, but I know we share a love for the Bills. We are like a big family, which, I think, is meaning of the term Bills Mafia. I include the Bills fans, players, coaches, staff and owners in this "family". I particularly like the current owners. I live in Fairport, so I feel a connection to Kim, although I don't know her personally. Maybe I'm a sensitive guy, but when my friends are "hurting" by extension I'm hurting. I don't mean to say she is literally like family to me; I simply feel for her and her family and you, our Bills Mafia. I'm not crying in my soup. I'm just trying to understand how we can claim to be a part of this Bills Mafia but not be hurting for each other when something serious could be happening here. That's it. La Famiglia 👍🏻 Some people have NO clue what the MAFIA is. They thought it was cool 😎 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvbills Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: La Famiglia 👍🏻 Some people have NO clue what the MAFIA is. They thought it was cool 😎 Mafia=Sicilian criminals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishRifle Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Huh? What? said: While reading the posts, there has a been healthy respect for privacy and also some speculation based poster's experiences. I'll add my 2 cents... which has nothing to do with Kim Pegula's situation, because I don't know what she may be suffering from. I think that maybe what I have gone through, may cause one to consider that maybe he/she may see a doctor. My PCP 4 years ago scheduled me for a colonoscopy given I was in my 50's... I was asked before the procedure if cancer was prevalent in my family. I replied "No, we're a heart attack/stroke family. Everything went fine with colonoscopy, but the doctor recommended I see a cardiologist given my statement and age. Saw the cardiologist... told her I had heart murmur and faulty t-wave (since birth). She performed a checkup and an EKG which detected a problem. What happened next was I had bilateral occlusion and stenosis of the left carotid arteries. I had to have an exploratory brain surgery to check for tumors and aneurysms. The 2nd surgery placed a stent in my external carotid artery but the internal is inoperable. I suffered nerve damage to larynx on the 2nd procedure which paralyzed a vocal cord, so I have difficulty talking. The lesson that maybe someone would take from this? I see a doctor, whether I like her scheduling me for procedures because of my age and cringe at... I go through them... I before my surgeries suffered terrible onset headaches on the left side of my head, they went away quickly and I paid no attention to them, they were TIA's (mini strokes)... I had ringing in my left ear, assumed it was concerts and work related. I have neither now... I'm here now because a doctor who I see set the ball rolling that may have saved my life... If you know someone adverse to seeing a doctor, explain to the person that visit may keep you around... Thanks for this. Your post just made me reschedule that appointment with the cardiologist that I had canceled last week. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 This thread needs Dr Phil to enter and say "Its not all about you". Get well Kim!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Luvbills said: Mafia=Sicilian criminals. Until the Soviet Union fell now they just deliver pizza for the real mafia !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 22 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: @Bob Chandler's Hands @PirateHookerMD You guys questioning that i brought down my BP with kidney cleanser ?? I dont recall you being there during my medicals. I'll ask: what does kidney cleansing have to do with BP? I'm NOT asking about your personal results while using a specific product, to be clear (anecdotal evidence is flimsy especially with one-offs). I'm asking if there are clinically studied benefits of such products with respect to blood pressure. And I'm not asking to be a jerk. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 30 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: I'll ask: what does kidney cleansing have to do with BP? I'm NOT asking about your personal results while using a specific product, to be clear (anecdotal evidence is flimsy especially with one-offs). I'm asking if there are clinically studied benefits of such products with respect to blood pressure. And I'm not asking to be a jerk. Who gaf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 19 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Fact there has been zero update or tweet from Kim is concerning. Hopefully she’s ok! No kidding. The original tweet was Tuesday around 10:30am, we're now 5 full days from that point. We can only assume it's another 5 days in ICU as there has been no update. Sure hope we hear some good news soon. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 6:08 PM, Joe in Winslow said: Has anything specific been released on her condition? Seems wrong to speculate if not. I don’t really feel it’s a matter of right or wrong...speculating is just a natural behavior human beings do when they don’t know the answer to something... 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 52 minutes ago, GottaRun said: No kidding. The original tweet was Tuesday around 10:30am, we're now 5 full days from that point. We can only assume it's another 5 days in ICU as there has been no update. Sure hope we hear some good news soon. Up to nine full days imo. See my page 3 post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: I'll ask: what does kidney cleansing have to do with BP? I'm NOT asking about your personal results while using a specific product, to be clear (anecdotal evidence is flimsy especially with one-offs). I'm asking if there are clinically studied benefits of such products with respect to blood pressure. And I'm not asking to be a jerk. I don’t know about the product, but I teach physiology and proper kidney function is critical to BP. If the kidneys are not functioning properly you don’t regulate fluid volumes in the body properly. You then have more fluid in your blood vessels which raises BP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I don’t know about the product, but I teach physiology and proper kidney function is critical to BP. If the kidneys are not functioning properly you don’t regulate fluid volumes in the body properly. You then have more fluid in your blood vessels which raises BP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, Beerball said: Look. If you want to deny medical knowledge go ahead. But your kidneys are critical to regulating blood pressure, it’s that simple. Whether the product this guy talked about works or not is unknown. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 23 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Look. If you want to deny medical knowledge go ahead. But your kidneys are critical to regulating blood pressure, it’s that simple. Whether the product this guy talked about works or not is unknown. look at the thread title and tell me what your statement has to do with that 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Beerball said: look at the thread title and tell me what your statement has to do with that I was commenting on the guy talking about his kidney treatment, which you objected to. None of us know right now what the problem is with Kim. We of course are all rooting for a swift recovery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 11 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: I'll ask: what does kidney cleansing have to do with BP? I'm NOT asking about your personal results while using a specific product, to be clear (anecdotal evidence is flimsy especially with one-offs). I'm asking if there are clinically studied benefits of such products with respect to blood pressure. And I'm not asking to be a jerk. Kidneys don't need to be "cleansed" and "clean kidneys" have nothing to do with BP control. Renal renin-angiotensin hormonal regulation of BP is one way the body regulates systemic BP. No cleaning necessary. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Kim reading this thread: "... man, this season can't start soon enough..." 3 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateHookerMD Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Can we not argue about some guy taking a supplement of cranberry, ginko, juniper and marshmallow root and lowering his blood pressure on a Bills forum and thread about the owners health? Not relevant. If it helped him great. Most supplements are scams and unregulated and you never know what you are really getting. Talk to your doctor about your healthcare. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Kidneys don't need to be "cleansed" and "clean kidneys" have nothing to do with BP control. Renal renin-angiotensin hormonal regulation of BP is one way the body regulates systemic BP. No cleaning necessary. I think the non-medical person is using cleaning for healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) On 6/16/2022 at 8:37 PM, djp14150 said: ICU care can occur when… 1. post surgery 24/7 observation 2. other conditions that require 24/7 observation because of potential medical risks 3. post infection observation 4. Covid and other diseases that might require immediate care hospital staffing is tied to ICU. Certain departments have a staff member 24/7 where their first responsibility is to an ICU call. ive been in the ICU 3 times as an adult. One post surgery fir 24 hrs and the other two times for a perforated lung. Not quite correct. ICU is not for "observation." There are specific criteria that a patient needs to meet to be transferred to a critical care unit. We don't take patients for "observation." Also, your staffing comment is incorrect. Hospital staffing is tied to EVERY department. The medical floors do not have staff specially assigned for whatever an ICU call is. I think what you are referring to is whats called an RRT (Rapid Response Team). Hospitals due staff a crisis RN 24/7 typically to respond to RRT's. RRT's typically consist of an ICU Dr that is taking the calls from that shift, an RT, and the crisis RN. Depending on the hospital size, depends on how many crisis RN's are on staff. Edited June 19, 2022 by Herc11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) Last time I was in ICU for 5 days was with Sepsis. Regardless of what is going on.....wish her the best and a speedy and healthy recovery! Edited June 20, 2022 by aceman_16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 31 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: Last time I was in ICU for t days was with Sepsis. Regardless of what is going on.....wish her the best and a speedy and healthy recovery! Amen 🙏🏻 to that !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 On 6/18/2022 at 7:12 PM, AmishRifle said: Thanks for this. Your post just made me reschedule that appointment with the cardiologist that I had canceled last week. Make sure you see an MD or a DO for your initial evaluation, not a PA or Nurse Practitioner. With the continued bureacratization of medicine and the heavy presence of private equity, the business of medicine is destroying it. Docs are being replaced with NP’s and PA’s who are “supervised” by and MD/DO. It’s getting very scary out there. That’s not to say there aren’t good NPs and PAs who are great in their role, but how does someone not in the field know what they are getting? Put it this way, you can get an online Doctorate in Nurse Practitioner with 500 hours of shadowing (that’s not even practicing) and practice independently in many states while calling yourself “Doctor”. An attending physician has a minimum 21,000 hours of clinical training (not shadowing) before practicing independently. A barber has 1500 hours of cutting hair under supervision, and a Pet Smart groomer has over 800 hours of grooming under supervision before they can cut your dog’s hair. Medicine is a business, you are the consumer. Know what you are paying for. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 On 6/18/2022 at 1:51 AM, Buffalo Barbarian said: @Bob Chandler's Hands @PirateHookerMD You guys questioning that i brought down my BP with kidney cleanser ?? I dont recall you being there during my medicals. I don't question it. But I also DGAF about it. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 hours ago, RunTheBall said: Make sure you see an MD or a DO for your initial evaluation, not a PA or Nurse Practitioner. With the continued bureacratization of medicine and the heavy presence of private equity, the business of medicine is destroying it. Docs are being replaced with NP’s and PA’s who are “supervised” by and MD/DO. It’s getting very scary out there. That’s not to say there aren’t good NPs and PAs who are great in their role, but how does someone not in the field know what they are getting? Put it this way, you can get an online Doctorate in Nurse Practitioner with 500 hours of shadowing (that’s not even practicing) and practice independently in many states while calling yourself “Doctor”. An attending physician has a minimum 21,000 hours of clinical training (not shadowing) before practicing independently. A barber has 1500 hours of cutting hair under supervision, and a Pet Smart groomer has over 800 hours of grooming under supervision before they can cut your dog’s hair. Medicine is a business, you are the consumer. Know what you are paying for. I go to my NP barber and get a hair cut and physical at the same time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 11 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: I don't question it. But I also DGAF about it. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. Well I care about you BB, glad it’s working for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 TBD Crime Scene Investigative Unit >>>> TBD Buffalo General: Major Trauma Unit I don't think Major Trauma is going to get a second season. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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