TBD Crime Scene Investigation Unit Assemble - *Update* Cowboys CB Passenger In Drive By Shooting

[Jauronimo]

https://www.totalprosports.com/2022/04/15/footage-released-allegedly-showing-cowboys-cb-kelvin-joseph-fighting-man-who-was-shot-killed-video/

 

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Dallas police want to interview the Dallas Cowboys cornerback in connection with a murder last month. Joseph is said to be involved in a disturbance where people were fighting outside a bar with a group that included 20-year-old Cameron Ray.

 

Edited April 15, 2022 by Jauronimo

[Captain_Quint]

Mustache doesn't look the same in both pics/video but I'm not up to date on how these young kids shape up the facial hair. 

 

Potentially damning, if true, no matter how you slice it. I always say that if the shoe fits.....

[glazeduck]

This guy would've been our 2nd round pick if he'd gotten anywhere near us. Pretty crazy...

[Protocal69]

Joseph, who also goes by the rapper pseudonym “YKDV Bossman Fat. My guy just stick to football please

[BillsShredder83]

2 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

https://www.totalprosports.com/2022/04/15/footage-released-allegedly-showing-cowboys-cb-kelvin-joseph-fighting-man-who-was-shot-killed-video/

 

 

if this is a tip of the cap to the Haskins thread, A+ lolllllllllllll

 

Joseph goes by rapper name "YKDV bossman".... video clearly shows a crazy diamond encrusted YKDV chain on him lol this dude is donezoooooo

Edited April 15, 2022 by BillsShredder83

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, glazeduck said:

This guy would've been our 2nd round pick if he'd gotten anywhere near us. Pretty crazy...

 

Would have been in contention definitely. 

[H2o]

[Jauronimo]

23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Would have been in contention definitely. 

No way.  Beane is basically like those weird albinos in Minority Report that can detect crime before it happens.

Edited April 15, 2022 by Jauronimo

[CorkScrewHill]

22 minutes ago, Protocal69 said:

Joseph, who also goes by the rapper pseudonym “YKDV Bossman Fat. My guy just stick to football please

Thankfully he was kind enough to wear his chain with the letters "YKDV". Probably helped narrow the group down a bit. 

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/04/14/report-kelvin-joseph-a-person-of-interest-in-dallas-murder-investigation/

 

Per this report he admitted to being at the scene to the Cowboys, but was not involved in the shooting. In any event if one of his group did the shooting and he said nothing .. I am no lawyer, but I believe that makes him an accessory after the fact. I suppose it is "possible" that after the fight someone else randomly drove down the same street and took a pot shot at those guys for no apparent reason .. but that is a little too much coincidence for me.

 

1 hour ago, glazeduck said:

This guy would've been our 2nd round pick if he'd gotten anywhere near us. Pretty crazy...

 

He had character issues coming out of college to the point that people questioned whether we even had him on our draft board. It is not a safe assumption that he would have been our 2nd round pick.

 

[glazeduck]

9 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said:

He had character issues coming out of college to the point that people questioned whether we even had him on our draft board. It is not a safe assumption that he would have been our 2nd round pick.

 

Agree to disagree. Beane flat out said we wanted a CB in the 2nd but the one we wanted went too early. There were only 3 CBs drafted between our 1st and 2nd picks (one of them was Campbell, who went immediately after we took Groot) so it's literally either him or Asante Samuel Jr. Of the two, Joseph is a way better fit for how we like to draft, so that's where I'm coming from...

Edited April 15, 2022 by glazeduck

[thenorthremembers]

Like Chris Carter says...always have a fall guy.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Here's where HOUSE comes up with a 'Horatio Caine' zinger.

[Jauronimo]

12 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

if this is a tip of the cap to the Haskins thread, A+ lolllllllllllll

This is a tip of the hat to many similar threads where the TBD crime lab has dissected videos, contemplated charges, and traveled around in a van solving mysteries.

[blacklabel]

His rapper name is so rude. Mine is much better, "WKRP Bossperson Husky."

[buffaloboyinATL]

Ray Lewis 2.0

[BillsfaninSB]

1 hour ago, glazeduck said:

This guy would've been our 2nd round pick if he'd gotten anywhere near us. Pretty crazy...

Yeah sure but can he return punts. 

[Little Dog]

I wonder what went through his mind when he woke up. Mmmm “ should I hang out with a few hoodlums , or look at some tape and worry about my NFL career. 

[BADOLBILZ]

51 minutes ago, glazeduck said:

Agree to disagree. Beane flat out said we wanted a CB in the 2nd but the one we wanted went too early. There were only 3 CBs drafted between our 1st and 2nd picks (one of them was Campbell, who went immediately after we took Groot) so it's literally either him or Asante Samuel Jr. Of the two, Joseph is a way better fit for how we like to draft, so that's where I'm coming from...

 

Dodged a bullet. 

 

Further proof he shouldn't draft a CB early.

[CorkScrewHill]

1 hour ago, glazeduck said:

Agree to disagree. Beane flat out said we wanted a CB in the 2nd but the one we wanted went too early. There were only 3 CBs drafted between our 1st and 2nd picks (one of them was Campbell, who went immediately after we took Groot) so it's literally either him or Asante Samuel Jr. Of the two, Joseph is a way better fit for how we like to draft, so that's where I'm coming from...

Good analysis!

[Jauronimo]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33745927/dallas-cowboys-kelvin-joseph-was-suspect-vehicle-murder-investigation-shoot-attorney-says

 

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"Kelvin Joseph did not shoot Cameron Ray," Sorrels told The Dallas Morning News. "Mr. Ray's death is a tragedy, and Kelvin extends his deepest condolences for the family's loss. On the night of March 17, Kelvin was unarmed and was not looking for violence. He found himself in a situation that escalated without his knowledge or consent. Along with condolences to the Ray family, Kelvin apologizes to the Dallas community for being anywhere near this type of incident. The investigation is ongoing, and we intend to respect the process."

Well that's completely understandable.  I can't tell you how many times I was just an unwitting passenger in a car that was committing a drive by shooting, to my surprise.  Coulda happened to anyone really...

 

I don't see how he doesn't catch a suspension or a lengthy sit on Goodell's Exempt list.  I will save the legal analysis for TBD's Law & Order fan club.

Edited April 15, 2022 by Jauronimo

[wppete]

Yet another criminal. 

[Rico]

Let’s see:

 

 

NOT GUILTY 

[CowgirlsFan]

Terrible. He should have gotten a lawyer and gone to the police the next day.

[wppete]

21 minutes ago, Rico said:

Let’s see:

 

 

NOT GUILTY 

[Rico]

39 minutes ago, wppete said:

GUILTY 

[Gugny]

2 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

This is a tip of the hat to many similar threads where the TBD crime lab has dissected videos, contemplated charges, and traveled around in a van solving mysteries.

 

Zoiks!

[TBBills]

1 hour ago, CowgirlsFan said:

Terrible. He should have gotten a lawyer and gone to the police the next day.

For someone like himself it's called "Snitchin' and snitches get stiches... or sometimes end up dead themselves.

[MJS]

Reporting for duty.

[frostbitmic]

2 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

This is a tip of the hat to many similar threads where the TBD crime lab has dissected videos, contemplated charges, and traveled around in a van solving mysteries.

Not to mention eating Scooby Snacks.

[TBBills]

3 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

This is a tip of the hat to many similar threads where the TBD crime lab has dissected videos, contemplated charges, and traveled around in a van solving mysteries.

The courts do the same thing... at least we get a ***** van.

Edited April 15, 2022 by TBBills

[Kelly2Reed]

Descending 

[Warcodered]

2 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33745927/dallas-cowboys-kelvin-joseph-was-suspect-vehicle-murder-investigation-shoot-attorney-says

 

Well that's completely understandable.  I can't tell you how many times I was just an unwitting passenger in a car that was committing a drive by shooting, to my surprise.  Coulda happened to anyone really...

 

I don't see how he doesn't catch a suspension or a lengthy sit on Goodell's Exempt list.  I will save the legal analysis for TBD's Law & Order fan club.

So he hasn't talked to the police yet but he's told the media he was in the car with the shooter. What is he giving the shooter a head start before he names him?

[Dopey]

44 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

So he hasn't talked to the police yet but he's told the media he was in the car with the shooter. What is he giving the shooter a head start before he names him?

I don't think he'll do it, but Jerry should cut him. 2nd rd pick be damned. You have so much going for you, yet still hang with thugs/punks. They bring you back down to their level. Well, maybe he's still at that level.

Do not draft a rapper.

Edited April 16, 2022 by Dopey

[WhoTom]

5 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

This is a tip of the hat to many similar threads where the TBD crime lab has dissected videos, contemplated charges, and traveled around in a van solving mysteries.

 

And we would have gotten away with it, if it hadn't been for those meddling mods.

 

 

[chongli]

5 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said:

Thankfully he was kind enough to wear his chain with the letters "YKDV". Probably helped narrow the group down a bit. 

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/04/14/report-kelvin-joseph-a-person-of-interest-in-dallas-murder-investigation/

 

Per this report he admitted to being at the scene to the Cowboys, but was not involved in the shooting. In any event if one of his group did the shooting and he said nothing .. I am no lawyer, but I believe that makes him an accessory after the fact. 

 

 

I am wondering about this. A person has no obligation to speak to the police. Most criminal lawyers would tell you to shut up, and the police are not your friend. Maybe I am wrong, but I do not think there mere fact that he didn't tell anyone after the shooting occurred makes him an accessory after the fact, without doing something else to hinder the investigation or aid the perpetrator. This is what I found from Cornell:

 

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/accessory_after_the_fact#:~:text=An accessory-after-the-,person avoid arrest or punishment.

"Accessory After The Fact | Wex | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)

 

An accessory-after-the-fact is someone who assists 1) someone who has committed a crime, 2) after the person has committed the crime, 3) with knowledge that the person committed the crime, and 4) with the intent to help the person avoid arrest or punishment."

 

But maybe, as you said, he was somehow involved in the planning beforehand. That's a whole different story, potentially making just as guilty as the shooter.

Edited April 16, 2022 by chongli

[TBBills]

Just tell them you had some earbuds in and didn't hear the shot.

[Freddie's Dead]

7 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

No way.  Beane is basically like those weird albinos in Minority Report that can detect crime before it happens.

 

McBeane in the tank:

 

[Richard Noggin]

6 hours ago, Rico said:

Let’s see:

 

 

NOT GUILTY 

I honestly don't get what you're implying here. Sincerely. 

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

10 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

This is a tip of the hat to many similar threads where the TBD crime lab has dissected videos, contemplated charges, and traveled around in a van solving mysteries.